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Old 2013-02-22, 13:33   Link #3061
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Maybe adv/disav:
1. Pursuit riichi - There's a curse that when you first riichi, even if you have a 6 sided wait, the next person who riichied will ron you, no matter how crappy the wait is. Toyone is really fearful.
It happens to me lul (with tsumo thought not ron), the person on my right riichi, then in the same turn the person in front of me also riichi, the person on my left stay silent, then I got my needed tile thus I riichi and in the next turn I tsumo






*just in case someone can't read that*
it's (from top to bottom)

riichi (立直) 1 han
ippatsu (一発) 1 han
menzenchin tsumohou (門前清自摸和) 1 han
yakuhai (役牌) 1 han
ura dora (裏ドラ) 0 han *cuz I don't have any*

8.000 + 3 riichi stick (3 x 1000) = 11.000 ^^

ps : tenhou count my own riichi stick (so it's 3 x 1000 not 2 x 1000)
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Old 2013-03-03, 19:20   Link #3062
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O-oh, I'm flattered you're going to use my post but remember that it's quite lacking information. (I can't count fu and han D but feel free to use it!
Don't be embrassed, I've just been wanting to give in site to Hitomi's skill level.

And on another note, something I've been wanting to do is compare Senriyama against the other schools and how well they would do. (I'm living out Rinkai, Usuzan due to lack of info, and Shindouji and Shiraitodai, for obvious reasons)

First up Kiyosumi:
Toki vs Yuuki, Toki's ability would be able to give Yuuki some trouble, but Toki's calls wouldn't disrupt her hand, and Yuuki would still be able to get her wins. Also Yuuki's fast hand style would ruin Toki's ippastu wins. Another factor is that Yuuki is able to now defend herself in the south round, so Toki would have real trouble with Yuuki.
Mako vs Izumi, Izumi would clearly not be able to defend against Mako's style, where she constantly changes her hand and makes calls to stop people who're bringing their hands together.
Hisa vs Sera, Sera's style I see giving Hisa some trouble, but I see Sera sometimes accidentally playing into Hisa's bad waits with her logical big hands.
Nodoka vs Hiroko, this would clearly go to Nodoka, because Hiroko analyses abilities and play styles weak spots and players discard habits, but Nodoka has none to her always playing to the most logical choices.
Saki vs Ryuuka, Saki wins, Teru can override Toki's foresight, Saki should have no problem overriding Ryuuka's foresight

Second Eisui:
Toki vs Komaki, I would see Komaki being able to make Toki's foresight as well as long she gets the right goddess, also with Toki not being always able to win, if Komaki gets the goddess who specializes in the nine gates, Toki loses, otherwise Toki would beat Komaki due to her foresight.
Izumi vs Tomoe, to much of a lack of info on Tomoe to be able to tell what would happen. But I feel Izumi would lose to her due to her not being able to take on Nodoka, when not in Nodicci mode.
Sera vs Haru, Sera would have trouble against Haru due to her playing style being the counter to Sera's high scoring hands, and that Haru is willing to work with others to stop other players.
Hatsumi vs Hiroki, Hatsumi would win due to her being able to manipulate the draws to give her the wind tiles, while Hiroko would be able to stop her at times, but not throughly because Hitomi's ability does not have as many flaws as Seiko, and Hatsumi seems to always pay attention to the whole table.
Ryuuka vs Kasumi, without abilities I see Kasumi being the clear winner, because Senriyama would not be able to stop Esiui's ability users easily, and Kasumi taking a defensive would be able to stop Ryuuka. With abilities, its unknown, bit seeing as Ryuuka's foresight has a limit, while Kasumi's goddess possession lasts throughout the whole match Kasumi would most likely win here.

Next Miyamori:
Toki vs Shiromi, this match would be even due to Toki's ability and Shiromi's style of playing with good hands. But overall Shiromi would possibly come out better due to her getting good hands, and Toki not always being able to stop wins by winning of other players on he table.
Izumi vs Aislinn, I see Aislinn getting wins over Izumi due to Izumi being a defensive style player, while Aislinn is able to bring together her hands before the 13th hand without making calls, and Izumi is someone who doesn't always make good defensive choices.
Sera vs Kurumi, both are evenly matched due to their styles I feel, since Sera plays with big hands while Kurumi plays with silent hands. Also something to note is that Hisa seemed to only able to sense when Kurumi got a winning hand due to her having faced Momoko, which suggests that Kurumi makes it hard to sense her hand. Also Kurumi is willing to play into cheap hands to stop players who make expensive hands, which means Sera would have real trouble against her.
Sae vs Hiroko, Sae can seal hands, Hiroko cannot, and Sae doesn't have discard habits, so Sae is the clear winner here.
Ryuuka vs Toyone, Toyone has multiple abilities, while Ryuuka's ability is limited, so it comes down to Ryuuka's normal skill, but with some of Toyone's unknown abilities, it becomes unknown who the better player is, but I feel Toyone who is able to manipulate draws to an extant would win.

Now for Ryuumonbuchi:
Toki vs Jun, Jun's style would be slightly disrupt Toki, but Toki's ability would give Jun's flow control style real trouble and Toki would most likely stop her, due to Jun making calls and pretty much revealing her hand.
Izumi vs Tomoki, Tomoki wins, Izumi can't handle none nodocci mode Nodoka, she would be able to handle Tomoki's digital style.
Sera vs Hajime, goes either way, seeing has Hajime would was able to stop Hisa's bad waits on her own, while Sera's big hands would help her get a good net gain.
Hiroko vs Touka, if Touka enters her cold state Hiroko would lose, while her normal digital style would give Hiroko trouble because of her not having exploitable discard habits.
Ryuuka vs Koromo, Koromo wins, Ryuuka would possibly win a few hands but Koromo would win.

Next Tsuruga:
Toki vs Mutuski, Toki would logically win.
Izumi vs Kaori, Izumi would most likely win, but if Kaori was able to gain good enough skill from the combined training camp, Kaori would most likely give her a good challenge.
Sera vs Satomi, match can go away either way due to lack of abilities.
Hiroko vs Momko, Momo wins, due to her ability being to hide.
Ryuuka vs Yumi, Yumi would most likely win because of her having being able to come up with strategies to fight ability users, and would most likely be able spot Ryuuka's possible weak spots, but Ryuuka would obviously give Yumi a good fight.

Next Kazekoshi:
Toki vs Mihoko, I see Mihoko's abilty being able to beat Toki's foresight, also Mihoko is more skilled then Toki.
Izumi vs Miharu, Miharu wins, due to her putting up better defense then Izumi
Sera vs Bundou, Sera would most likely win because of her being more skilled.
Hiroko vs Sumiyo, both use logical styles so can go either way.
Ryuuka vs Kana, I see Kana winning since she is able to put together expensive winning hands, but again Ryuuka would be able give her a good match.

Next Himemastu:
Toki vs Suzu: Toki wins because her ability would be able to stop Suzu's explosive hands.
Izumi vs Yuuko: Yuuko would most likely win, again due Izumi not having a great defensive play.
Sera vs Hiroe, Hiroe wins, her traps are something that Sera would most likely play into.
Hiroko vs Kinue: I see Kinue being able to stop her Hiroko, because of the fact Kinue is actually decent at defense.
Ryuuka vs Kyouko, match can go either way, Kyouko was able to challenge Saki, while Ryuuka was able to give Awai a good challenge.

Finally lets do Achiga for the hell of it:
Only just wanted to say that Senriyama would not have had the easy time they had in the quarter-finals if Toki hadn't basically sealed Kuro from being able to use her high scoring hands, and forced the other 4 to have to take an offensive while playing.

Also when you compare Seiko's ability to others, she really is unlucky, her ability is more limiting then Kuro's, she also seems to not be able to ditch it like everyone else can.
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Old 2013-03-03, 21:48   Link #3063
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I'm not going to bother to quote. I really appreciate this long post though. Its probably my favorite type of post, too.

Anyway, I do agree with all of the match-ups. It just reminded me how monstrous Nagano prefecture is, all 4 of them would be able to hang with Senriyama and in case of 2 of them - outright beat them.

As for Achiga, I'm beginning to think that Achiga is just a bit weaker than Senriyama without Toki. But, with Toki in the equation against Kuro, they will be be left behind so much.


Anyway, I just found an old Drama CD containing a conversation between Saki and Teru. Pretty neat. It clarified many things for me. It really helps with the timeline. The transcript of the conversation as well of my thoughts are here.
http://randomwalloftext.wordpress.co...ihou-drama-cd/
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Old 2013-03-03, 22:27   Link #3064
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I'm not going to bother to quote. I really appreciate this long post though. Its probably my favorite type of post, too.

Anyway, I do agree with all of the match-ups. It just reminded me how monstrous Nagano prefecture is, all 4 of them would be able to hang with Senriyama and in case of 2 of them - outright beat them.

As for Achiga, I'm beginning to think that Achiga is just a bit weaker than Senriyama without Toki. But, with Toki in the equation against Kuro, they will be be left behind so much.


Anyway, I just found an old Drama CD containing a conversation between Saki and Teru. Pretty neat. It clarified many things for me. It really helps with the timeline. The transcript of the conversation as well of my thoughts are here.
http://randomwalloftext.wordpress.co...ihou-drama-cd/
Interesting....very interesting. It does paint an interesting alternative to the siblings bond. The idea of sealing Saki's Rinshan Kahiou being the trigger to unleashing her super rape mode is another tantalizing thought.

Maybe her match in the semi finals may reveal something interesting.
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Old 2013-03-04, 02:06   Link #3065
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Thanks to the fact that February only has 28 days, we will get to see a new chapter faster. It is only two days before the date that the leak usually arrives.


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Anyway, I do agree with all of the match-ups. It just reminded me how monstrous Nagano prefecture is, all 4 of them would be able to hang with Senriyama and in case of 2 of them - outright beat them.
Somehow, I think Nagano players’ power level is one of the biggest mistake that Ritz made in Saki series in term of story progressing. Ritz clearly made them too strong for prefecture round which results in the fact that most teams in national looks weak compare to them. It not hard to see that Ritz didn’t plan much about the future content when she wrote prefecture round part.

Saki vs Koromo match is still the most interesting and the tensest match up until now. Ritz made that match like the grand final or something. Even Teru and Awai match in Achiga aren’t come close to that.
I still wonder how she will make Final round more interesting than Saki vs Koromo match.

Also, @Bladezer
Thanks for your analysis. I recommend that you should do 4-teams versions too. Because in the real match, two teams cannot just focus to each other like that while there are other two teams at a table.
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Old 2013-03-04, 03:22   Link #3066
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Interesting....very interesting. It does paint an interesting alternative to the siblings bond. The idea of sealing Saki's Rinshan Kahiou being the trigger to unleashing her super rape mode is another tantalizing thought.

Maybe her match in the semi finals may reveal something interesting.
Yeah. Assuming that the Drama CD is canon which is very likely. Then, Teru told Saki about Rinshan Kaihou just before she left for Tokyo. This does explain why Saki likes that yaku a lot - sort of a from memento her dear onee-chan. But at the same time, it leaves several question marks namely what happened to her old playstyle. And as I've said before, sealing Saki's rinshan could be good or bad depending on how Saki reacts to it. From my perspective, its increasingly like a bad button to push.




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Somehow, I think Nagano playersí power level is one of the biggest mistake that Ritz made in Saki series in term of story progressing. Ritz clearly made them too strong for prefecture round which results in the fact that most teams in national looks weak compare to them. It not hard to see that Ritz didnít plan much about the future content when she wrote prefecture round part.

I don't think Nagano player's power level is a mistake. The writing there is really good. If you compare Side-B to Nagano finals, there isn't much difference in power and its just quarters to the nationals. And on story progress, there is still a dangling plot hook about the mysterious tournament that Fujita is scouting for. It looks like many of the Nagano players are going to make the cut. So yeah... Nagano is just filled with monsters this year even the story says so.


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Saki vs Koromo match is still the most interesting and the tensest match up until now. Ritz made that match like the grand final or something. Even Teru and Awai match in Achiga arenít come close to that.
I still wonder how she will make Final round more interesting than Saki vs Koromo match.
I still fangirl everytime when I watch Saki vs. Koromo vs. Yumi vs. Kana. Still, the best match shown ever in the tournaments. This is really tempting me to make a very detailed analysis of that match.

Anyway, I'm also looking forward to Saki vs. Kasumi vs. Toyone vs. Kyouko... its very good as well. Now, that I can read it in one go and not wait monthly for a chapter. Besides, its probably the candidate for the trolliest match in the tournament. ^^

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Also, @Bladezer
Thanks for your analysis. I recommend that you should do 4-teams versions too. Because in the real match, two teams cannot just focus to each other like that while there are other two teams at a table
Poor Bladezer. That sort of analysis is quite hard considering there are strategies like teaming up and sniping a certain player. 1 on 1 is easier to analyze with minimum bias. But, I know you can do it. Go will be cheering for you.
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Old 2013-03-04, 04:52   Link #3067
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I don't think Nagano player's power level is a mistake. The writing there is really good. If you compare Side-B to Nagano finals, there isn't much difference in power and its just quarters to the nationals. And on story progress, there is still a dangling plot hook about the mysterious tournament that Fujita is scouting for. It looks like many of the Nagano players are going to make the cut. So yeah... Nagano is just filled with monsters this year even the story says so.
Agreed that I don't think it's a mistake storytelling wise since it makes our protagonist and the other teams they fought against in Nagano even more memorable lasting impression, by following the algorithm of enemy powerlevel line up, we will eventually forget about Ryuumonbuchi, Kazekoshi, and Tsuruga after all they have no chance against those monster teams competing in the nationals.

OTOH, one would expect even stronger team waiting the further our protagonist advance into the tournament. I do remember back when first season just end and someone said something like, "I bet half of the team playing in the national must have at least one or two signature yakuman spamming specialist." We have seen many shounen manga following the rule of algorithem of enemy powerlevel which lead us to believe Saki series to get the same treatment but it's just not the case here as Bladezer pointed out that Nagano team are pretty much equal or in case of Ryuumonbuchi slightly stronger than the team representing in the national. While I have no qualm with this since it's one of the aspects I like about Saki, I can see why some people find this development underwhelming.

For one, it doesn't make much sense as to why Nagano is a gathering place for national-tier teams (this can be proven with how Achiga can beat almost all the runner ups during their training camp). The other reason I believe is there are people wanting to see Kiyosumi suffers even more in the national forcing them to struggle to advance especially Saki going all out without her +- 0 holding her back. You see, the fact that Nagano overall team capability can be seen as equal to those competing in the nationals isn't helping much on this regard.

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Anyway, I'm also looking forward to Saki vs. Kasumi vs. Toyone vs. Kyouko... its very good as well. Now, that I can read it in one go and not wait monthly for a chapter. Besides, its probably the candidate for the trolliest match in the tournament.
I think one reason why some rate this match lower than the Nagano final is because Saki hasn't even go all out this time meaning she doesn't even have to work her ass out to advance like when she played against Koromo and what's more she even came of this match as a terrifying monster in the eyes of other players. And of course there is Toyone crying. Fans have their heart borken seeing her cry.
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Old 2013-03-05, 14:37   Link #3068
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So if the Achiga chapter is to come out without a delay we should be getting the first spoilers today or tomorrow (at least that has been the case in past months). Any news on that front?
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Wow, I never expect that Ritz will pull that out O.o

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I'm looking forward to read it myself now.

P.S. Come to think of it. I never understand how did they got their hand on the chapter 6 days before the release date.
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Wow!!! I never expected this type of development.

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That place is sadly occupied by a vast army of Trekkies and Doctor Who fans, but they might be sure to make some room for the new Saki arrivals.
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Old 2013-03-06, 03:17   Link #3076
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So I might not have to wait until March 12 to know what happens next? Cool

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While we wait, why doesn't everyone post their predicted order in which the four schools in semi-final will finish (first place, second place, etc...). Also a short (or long in my case) explanation why.

I will go first:

1st place = Achiga
2cd place = Senriyama
3rd place = Shindouji
4th place = Shiraitodai


Reasoning:

1) Achiga will reach the finals. There are tons of reasons for this: they are the main characters of the side story, the way the last chapter ended with Shizu about to kick some ass, etc... (read my previous posts for more reasons).

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2) Shindouji can't be allowed (for plot reasons) to reach the finals because:

A) It would undermine the epic Saki VS Teru showdown that will happen in the individuals.

Consider what happened in the vanguard round of the semi-finals. All three players worked together to stop Teru, and two of them went so far as doing "heroic sacrifices" (Toki overusing her powers until she ended up in the hospital and Kuro discarding a dora). Despite all this, Teru still managed to rack up over 90,000 points, and she did this without showing all of her abilities.

So the stage for the Saki VS Teru showdown has now been perfectly set in the semi-finals, and having Teru participate in the finals would undermine this. First, Teru would undoubtedly go all-out in the finals, revealing all of her yet-unseen abilities, removing the aura of mystery surounding her right now. Second, (unless she send TWO opponents to the hospital) there is no way that Teru can top her performance in the semi-finals, and so her performance would be weaker in the finals (by comparison) making her seem like less of a monster. For these two reasons having Teru reach the finals would undermine the epic fight Saki VS Teru showdown, which is why it is unlikely to happen.

B) Shindouji reaching the finals would mean Kuro (and Yuuki) losing horribly in the vanguard round, which would be problematic.

Both Kuro and yuuki are weaker than Saki and would be crushed by Teru in the finals. This is problematic becuase Kuro has now sufferred two horrible loses in a row (in the quarter finals and semi-finals), and having it happan three times in a row would be too much (it would be boring and pathetic). Meanwhile, Yuuki lost in the quarter-finals, and (with the way things are going ) she is also going to reach the finals with two straight loses. Since the stage for the Saki VS Teru showdown has already been set by the semi-finals, Teru's massacre of Kuro and Yuuki in finals would be painful, repetitive, and serve no purpose.

C) Saki meanting Teru in the finals would akward (and be bad writing).

Saki has made a big deal of avoiding meeting Teru because she wants talk to her sister "through mahjong". If Shindouji reaches the finals, Saki/Teru meeting would be unavoidable, and this would mean a huge distract from the finals with no possible resolution (Teru and Saki wouldn't be playing Mahjong against each other).

D) The performance of Shindouji's players

With the exception of Teru, shindouji's players have had disapointing results in the semi-finals (they lost the 90,000 points that Teru gained). If Senriyama was going to make the finals, the performance of ALL of shindouji's players would have been more impressive (to keep anticipation up). For comparison, look at Senriyama performance in the quarter-finals: that is how a team that is going to next round looks like.

In a series that is as well-writen as Saki/Achiga-hen, I can't believe that a team that was as poorly showcased as Senriyama would make it to the finals. It would be extremely poor writing.

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3) About Senriyama second place finish.

Senriyama is the second ranked school. They were showcased as a powerful opponent in the quarter-finals (where they crushed Achiga). Also, Ryuuka has the ability least likely to be cancelled by Shizuno (it is a brand new ability and it is impossible to know when she is going to use it). In my opinion, they are the most likely to be the second team to make it to the finals. (for more reasons why Senriyama is morely than Shiraitodai to make the finals, read my previous posts).

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4) Why I put Shiraitodai in last place

If Shiraitodaiis going to lose (not make it to the finals) then they are probably going to lose spectacularly. That is my feeling

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It is fun to make predictions. So how does everyone else think?

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Old 2013-03-06, 09:03   Link #3077
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Shiraitodai is guaranteed to show in the finals. Teru even unleash the 9 lanterns on Yuuki from what we saw in the preview from the ending of season 1.
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@cedec0 Sorry, but do you happened to mix up Shindouji with Shiraitodai?

Anyway, very interesting prediction. I find your outlook so... different from many of us here and especially regarding Shizu's potential and Shiraitodai not making it which is very interesting.

Ok I'll play along and support your prediction for a change:

Before going into detail, let me state first that I'm well aware (and sure hope cedec0 too) that the odds are against us when it comes to predicting Shiraitodai not making it. Yeah, there are tons of reasons including objective ones like the end of final episode of Saki, as to why Shiraitodai has to advance, but if the author want something less repetitive she should pick Senriyama or Shindouji.

1st Achiga
2nd Senriyama
3rd Shiraitodai
4th Shindouji

Achiga is off course for plot reason, and similar to cedec0 I think her ability can tramp everyone on the table in the end. Koromo warned Saki about her. If she doesn't get first place, she will not be worth the warning. Saki will not see her as a threat.

As for why Shiraitodai shouldn't make it? Unlike cedec0 I don't think they are weak except for Seiko who loose huge chunk of points. I see them as powerful team as a whole, but when it comes to their abilities and characterization I don't think they have much left to show us in the finals.

In terms of abilities, we already seen them and we already expect the same thing in the finals except circumstances will not go against them much this time. If say for example Sumire overcome her tell, she will be able to target Achiga, but so what? It wouldn't make much of a difference from what happened to Izumi in the semi. Now comparing to other team like Senriyama and Shindouji, most of the player are badass normals with only one or two member with ability. In some ways it makes both teams inferior to Shiraitodai, but also make them more flexible and unpredictable. Throughout the Semi of Side A, notice that most of these badass normals are the ones coming up with counter measures against ability users. Akado vision is perhaps one of Achiga main secret weapon. Senriyama we have FunaQ targeting Seiko's discards, and Shindouji’s Yoshiko also seem to be able to adapt her playstyle to counter Sumire arrow shots. Who know what they will do next. So in a sense, having a team of badass normals might not be entirely a bad thing, I also think this a reason is why Himematsu was picked to advance along with Kiyosumi.

In terms of characterization, if you didn't count Teru and Awai, I don't think the rest of Shiraitodai have much to offer in order to make us root for them. When it comes to characterization Senriyama is the best out of the four teams here. TokixRyuuka consider by some as the top pairing in Sakiverse which says a lot. We also got Sera, a kickass tomboy who seems to taken liking of Ako, and sadistic mad scientist Funa Q who I think would want a rematch with Arata. Izumi appears to be Senriyama's Yuuki, she might be weak, but she has room for improvement. Shindouji is also marginally better than Shiraitodai when it come to memorable characters, we have "Subara", "It's all the government's fault!" and "Reservation" + *moaning* I think you get my point.

I should also mention that I felt Himematsu characterization isn't bad as well especially coming from Hiroe and Kyouko although Miyamori is good too but not much from Eisui. Eisui were pretty much there to offer us superpowers and additional fancservices. It would seem that team without much superpower are compensate with deeper characterization.

Overall, Senriyama has a very well-balanced team of both badass normal and superpower players with best characterization which is why I think they deserve to advance along with Achiga to the finals.
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hmm hmm... okay I'll play along with this Shiraitodai not advancing to the finals but I will reason in different way.

Shiraitodai is going for their 3 time national champ. If they where beaten here in semi's it will give the winner of semi finals more reason to be hype with and their popularity will sky rocketed. Just like how Kiyosumi beat Ryuumonbochi. It will give challenge for the people in the finals plus if Usuzan win into the finals then its 3 new comers playing the finals. That is a final to be hype about. I don't care on who is the 2nd place but I like Shindouji more than Senriyama with Subara! and S & M plays.

Also if Shiraitodai was beaten. That will give Saki no more reason to play into the finals which is why we saw a break up between Saki and Nodoka. Saki is probably down that she won't see her neechan and ended up wanting to quit which make Nodoka angry.

Btw timeline wise. Which happens first? the battle with agicha in semi finals or Kiyosumi's battle in semi finals?

the mood of saki should gave a hint on who won in achiga's side. If she is still determine to win and see her neechan then shiraitodai probably won.
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Shiraitodai is guaranteed to show in the finals. Teru even unleash the 9 lanterns on Yuuki from what we saw in the preview from the ending of season 1.
That preview at the end of season 1 was made in 2009, before the creation of Achiga-hen. I don't think it is still valid.

I bet you anything that, while Shiraitodai was originally supposed to make it to the finals, they later decided to make Shiraitodai into the "final boss" of the Achiga-hen side story.

If Shiraitodai was really going to make finals, then the semi-finals would have been used to showcase the school's awsome mahjong power. This didn't happen. Right now Shiraitodai has one "awsome" player (Teru) and four, point-losing disappointments. (Does anyone think Seiko stands a chance against Nadoka? Is that an anticipated matchup?)
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