AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Discussion > Older Series > Bleach

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2013-03-09, 16:56   Link #2661
itachi-san314
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by bonsobon View Post
Well Soul Society probably believed that there was no need to factor in Isshin when they found out that Ichigo received his powers from Rukia.
with rukia being nowhere near captain-level strength, it should have been extremely odd to SS that ichigo fought on par with zaraki and byakuya. but like others have said, his rukia powers were gone anyway and SS knew it, therefore it should have been even more perplexing. certainly worth looking into if SS had a collective IQ above 100

Quote:
Originally Posted by quigonkenny View Post
Something people tend to forget is that the vast majority of characters in the series know far less about the goings on in the series than the readers do.
you are forgetting that VCs and Captains report what they have done and seen to SS. we've seen the Captains meet quite frequently. if they didn't share information with the CC, then they are all as dumb as i think they are. ...so actually it is possible i guess

Quote:
Concerning recent events, we should assume until shown otherwise that no one other than Kenpachi, Shunsui, Yachiru, or Isane know that Unohana is now dead, much less how she got that way.
what is the point of saying this? the loss of a captain will become widespread knowledge in no time.

Quote:
One thing to Kubo's credit is that he doesn't subscribe to the theory that everyone that is more "in the know" than our protagonist is therefore omniscient or ludicrously intuitive
it doesnt take a prophet to question where ichigo got his superpowers and so quickly at that

ichigo beat their kenpachi and byakuya and he was a 'mere ryoka'. afterwards, SS must have said: "eh, he probably got those powers in a crackerjack box. no need to question whether he's a descendant of one of our many missing captains. especially since he looks just like a couple people we used to know very well. time to concentrate on sitting in chairs and staring at grass"
itachi-san314 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-10, 12:16   Link #2662
RRW
Unspecified
*Scanlator
 
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Unspecified
hmm apparently Kubo is going to germany for "vacation" so chance are no bleach for 4 weeks
__________________
RRW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-10, 12:20   Link #2663
Kanon
Kana Hanazawa ♥
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: France
Age: 27
I doubt they would allow him four weeks of vacation in a row. I've only seen that happen when the author does a timeskip (it makes sense to take long break here). You can't put an on-going story on hold for four weeks unless you can't help it (sickness, accidents...).
__________________
Mikan & Yami
Kanon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-12, 14:52   Link #2664
GDiddy
Sisterhood of the Desu
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: in a van by the river
Quote:
Originally Posted by RRW View Post
hmm apparently Kubo is going to germany for "vacation" so chance are no bleach for 4 weeks
Source?

If he's going to Germany, I sense we're about to get Quincy Qrap soon....
__________________
GDiddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 03:52   Link #2665
MAX_COLA_POWER!
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Puerto Rico
Spoiler for 530:
__________________
She's in your internets, watching you masterdebate.
MAX_COLA_POWER! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 03:53   Link #2666
Solace
(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
*Moderator
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
No chapter next week, resumes the week after. This weeks chapter was interesting. The figure at the end, way too coincidental. I think we just got our answer about where Hichigo came from.
__________________
Solace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 03:58   Link #2667
Om Nerabdator
~Maru~
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Age: 29
alright now i know this flash back is gonna be massive, so many questions..

1.whats that figure at the end
2.why does it look like ichigo
3.how exactly is misaki gonna give birth to ichigo+that "thing"
4.ishidas dad is exactly a nice guy
5.and most of all, how does misaki die against that hollow? why didnt she fight back? did she lose her powers?

And Kurosaki is actually a quincy family name
__________________
Om Nerabdator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 04:21   Link #2668
MAX_COLA_POWER!
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Puerto Rico
Quote:
Originally Posted by Om Nerabdator View Post
alright now i know this flash back is gonna be massive, so many questions..

1.whats that figure at the end: The hollow representing Hollow Ichigo and how it will probably injure Isshin to the point of not killing him, and thus, when he and Masaki have Ichigo, passes the hollow powers onto him. Fullbring arc teaches us something after all.
2.why does it look like ichigo: You want it to look like Don Kanonji? Plot progression my friend.
3.how exactly is misaki gonna give birth to ichigo+that "thing": Look up question one
4.ishidas dad is exactly a nice guy: Indeed, betcha the maid is Uryu's real mother
5.and most of all, how does misaki die against that hollow? why didnt she fight back? did she lose her powers?She does not die against that hollow, Grand Fisher was the one that did her in. Someone's forgotten our Bleach history. Lose her powers? No idea on that last one

And Kurosaki is actually a quincy family name: If it is, someone better tell Ryuken's mom to change the name outside the mansion. Kurosaki is Masaki's last name, she was raised in the Ishida household in order to become a proper quincy so that Ryuken would marry her and the pure bloodline would continue.
Fixed for data.
__________________
She's in your internets, watching you masterdebate.
MAX_COLA_POWER! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 04:28   Link #2669
Om Nerabdator
~Maru~
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Age: 29
-Grand Fisher was the one that did her in.

Thats the one i was talking about :P

-The hollow representing Hollow Ichigo and how it will probably injure Isshin to the point of not killing him, and thus, when he and Masaki have Ichigo, passes the hollow powers onto him. Fullbring arc teaches us something after all.

That actually makes perfect sense ^^
__________________
Om Nerabdator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 04:39   Link #2670
RDF2050
Gundam Meister
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Age: 24
Don't tell me Hichigo might be a VL(vastorlorde). I will have to wait three weeks to find out
__________________
RDF2050 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 04:43   Link #2671
MAX_COLA_POWER!
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Puerto Rico
Quote:
Originally Posted by RDF2050 View Post
Don't tell me Hichigo might be a VL(vastorlorde). I will have to wait three weeks to find out
By the looks of it, most likely. Hell, even Ichigonator had the appearance of a Vasto Lorde.
__________________
She's in your internets, watching you masterdebate.
MAX_COLA_POWER! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 04:53   Link #2672
~Yami~
a random Indonesian otaku
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Xanadu
Age: 22
welcome to the love triangle.... jeez...

and seems like Ichigo is the reincarnation of that badass-looked hollow
__________________

even if you can't see me, even if you can't hear me, I'll be by your side (Kaname Madoka, 2011)
anime list
manga list
~Yami~ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 04:54   Link #2673
dragonmeister
Terror of the Seas
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cambridge, UK
Does this mean that as part of Ichigo's introspection Hichigo's going to reappear for the purpose of helping Tensa Zangetsu reform? That's going to make Ichigo a proper human/quincy/shinigami/fullbringer/hollow hybrid, and he shouldn't have room in his soul for all of those

Why aren't these chapters negatively-numbered? It's before chapter 1, and Hitsugaya learning about his powers is -16 or -15 (depending on the version) - this position in the continuity doesn't really work (unless it's a "How I Met Your Mother"-style retelling of events, except with more hollows)
dragonmeister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 05:13   Link #2674
xky
Junior Member
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
so Aizen sent that hollow?
xky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 05:17   Link #2675
xky
Junior Member
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAX_COLA_POWER! View Post
4.ishidas dad is exactly a nice guy: Indeed, betcha the maid is Uryu's real mother
which explains Uryu's black hair! and maybe a little history why Ryuken is cold to his son...
xky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 06:47   Link #2676
sayde
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
So I guess Aizen really does turn out to be Ichigo's father in a sense--to at least one side of him anyways. Even if it was by chance, the fact of the matter is, without Aizen, I guess Ichigo wouldn't have been born (since Isshin wouldn't have ended up in Karakura town), nor would he have inherited traits from that particular vasto lorde. I'm also beginning to see the reason for Ryuuken and Isshin's awkward relationship. Plenty of potential reasons for why Ryuuken could both hate and respect the guy. I'm intrigued.
sayde is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 07:38   Link #2677
Luminion Lancer
Time-diver
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Location is all relative.
...

So lets run down the list of categories Ichigo falls into:

-Part human.
-Part shinigami/Vizard.
-Part Quincy.
-Part Hollow.
-Part Fullbringer.

Did I miss anything? Next you'll be telling me Ichigo is also related to Elvis and Babe Ruth.

Despite my confusion at the giant melting pot of Ichigo's heritage, I must say that this chapter was FAR better than than the recent ones, especially the Kenpachi vs. Unohana fight. Masaki looked and acted a lot like Orihime (in her early days) which is good because we haven't seen her for what feels like eons ago. Ishida looks a lot like his grandma...maybe that's why his dad wasn't very nice to him.

But the pace is good and it looks like a set up for some very interesting revelations. Color me interested how this Vasto Lorde-looking Hollow got integrated into Ichigo's Spiritual side.
__________________
-When all else fails, ram them with a force of an 18-wheeler.
Luminion Lancer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 07:47   Link #2678
GDB
Senior Member
 
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Age: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonmeister View Post
Why aren't these chapters negatively-numbered? It's before chapter 1, and Hitsugaya learning about his powers is -16 or -15 (depending on the version) - this position in the continuity doesn't really work (unless it's a "How I Met Your Mother"-style retelling of events, except with more hollows)
It is. It's his dad telling him about his heritage, not a true "flashback" like the Vaizard chapters were.
GDB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 07:50   Link #2679
DarkSkiper
Evil Mage
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: There...no, not there.Yes, there!
Age: 22
I think it's safe to say that the fight with that hallow caused Isshin to lose his shiningami powers. But if it was so strong... how the hell Aizen managed to control it?
__________________
DarkSkiper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2013-03-13, 07:50   Link #2680
Solace
(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
*Moderator
 
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
I don't think Ichigo's mom was much of a Quincy. This chapter seems to imply she's only really doing all of this because she has nowhere else to go, and she's masking her negative feelings about it with an overly positive one. She's not exactly getting to pick her own destiny here. The family only wants her because she can carry on the bloodline.

And if I had to place my bets, the maid is Ishida's mother. Definitely similar looks.

Anyway, my guess is Ichigo's Quincy bit is just his base. They're just spiritual humans after all, like Chad or Orihime or the Fullbring kids. The real pillars have always been Zangetsu and Hichigo. They've supported him the entire story, pretty much. But we know how he got Zangetsu....the question is how'd he get this badass Hollow? My guess is this is where Aizen comes into play. Is it a Voldemort scenario, where he injures the kid and transfers power? Or did he do something to the parents, and the kid inherited it?

I guess this does kinda confirm that the Kurosaki sisters will eventually grow to be quite powerful, one day.

Dumb question from me: what happened to the soul of Ichigo's mom after the Grand Fisher killed her?
__________________
Solace is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
bleach, chapter

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 14:00.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We use Silk.