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Old 2013-03-11, 22:49   Link #8581
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Do they? That's interesting, I hadn't seen anyone act like that before. It sure isn't that well connected but they do show up from time to time so hey.

I would also laugh if the next manga was about the situation on Mars though
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Old 2013-03-11, 23:09   Link #8582
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Aren't there multiple universes?
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Old 2013-03-11, 23:25   Link #8583
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Since the scope of negima story is rather large because it involves the whole planet (or even universes gdmmit) rather than one or two city, I think it'll be easier to notice whether the world is connected or not.
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Old 2013-03-12, 01:34   Link #8584
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Aren't there multiple universes?
Nope it'd the same universe, just a different time frame for each story.

Though I'd have loved to see the cast of LH arrive at Mahora at the very end of negima. Or at the very least Naru, Keitaro, and maybe Motoko.
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Old 2013-03-12, 02:10   Link #8585
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Nope it'd the same universe, just a different time frame for each story.

Though I'd have loved to see the cast of LH arrive at Mahora at the very end of negima. Or at the very least Naru, Keitaro, and maybe Motoko.
But they already did show up at Mahora...
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Old 2013-03-12, 07:09   Link #8586
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But they already did show up at Mahora...
It was just a distant background single panel take on Naru and Seta, or people who looked like them, without any lines. Not exactly a thrilling and fulfilling crossover.
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Old 2013-03-12, 15:14   Link #8587
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Exactly Overmaster.

I actually wanted them to interact with various negima characters. Like how would Setsuna and Motoko interact as of chapter 345 of Negima for example.

Or assuming the Mei from negima and the Mei from LH are the same person.* How would Naru react to knowing her sister was a mage.

*I forget if it was ever confirmed if they where the same person.
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Old 2013-03-12, 19:44   Link #8588
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After re-reading it I think the Negima's ending wasn't so bad. If you think about it, even the problem with Negi's father was kinda of explained when Rakan says "If Negi didn't defeat the Mage of begining and released you...". So I changed my mind about how I view Negima's end.
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Old 2013-03-12, 22:03   Link #8589
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After re-reading it I think the Negima's ending wasn't so bad. If you think about it, even the problem with Negi's father was kinda of explained when Rakan says "If Negi didn't defeat the Mage of begining and released you...". So I changed my mind about how I view Negima's end.
"And then the children were rescued by, oh, let's say Moe."

No, 'solving' the biggest conflict in the whole series with a throwaway line is NOT good storytelling at all.
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Old 2013-03-13, 06:11   Link #8590
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Not to mention it still doesn't answer any of the other important questions. Like, say, who was the mage of the beginning? What did he do to Nagi to make him... whatever he was at the time he fought Negi? And arguably more important: what happened to Negi's mother?

And this is just the tip of the iceberg, there are dozens of unanswered questions like these.
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Old 2013-03-13, 15:05   Link #8591
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I didn't say that it was the best end they could give this series, but it was an better ending that what I thought the first time I read.

Sure there are lot's of unanswered questions, but at the same time we have lot of answered questions that, if it was some other authors would never be answered, and we have a big chance that the next series will be in the same world, meaning that we may see this answers from the side lines.
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Old 2013-03-13, 15:58   Link #8592
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Honestly, the bits with Negi's father in the last chapter (just that, not the "where are they now" portion, as there's a number of problems with that section) would have the perfect way to end the manga, as it's the type of closure that the readers have been looking for (as the main "drive" of Negima is supposed to be Negi looking for his father). The problem with it: for it to be satisfactory, the last few chapters of the manga should have focused on that final battle, not the manga reverting back to the "unwanted harem" days of the pre-Kyoto volumes (with no reveal whatsoever as who which student Negi ends up with) and having the last "main" storyline feel like a spiritual rehash of the infamous Xebec ending.
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Old 2013-03-13, 17:45   Link #8593
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we have lot of answered questions
Such as?

Who exactly was the Master of the Graves? No.

Who did Negi choose? No.

Who was Chao's female ancestor? No.

What happened to Fate's followers and Anya? No.

What happened to Arika? No.

What happened with the Senate? No.

What became of the Count? No.

How did Hakase and Godel hook up? No.

What was the deal with the twins' princes? No.

How did Sakurako and the other girls got their Pactios? No.

Clarification on the events relayed on the final class roster? No.

How did Bad Future Negi die? No.

Which was Negi's ninth spell? No.

How did Nagi fuse with Lifemaker? No.

How did Ako get her scar? No.

How did they save Nagi? No.

Even something as minor as Cocone's past, when they look like they are going to address it in Volume Zero, they don't end up saying anything on it because TROLL MISORA.

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we have a big chance that the next series will be in the same world
So what? As I've said before, the connections between series set in the same Akamatsu world are so tenuous they might as well not exist.

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we may see this answers from the side lines.
Now this is sad. If you're just going to cram answers for a previous series' mess into another series, you didn't do your job well the first time around.
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Old 2013-03-18, 08:04   Link #8594
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How did Hakase and Godel hook up? No.
Actually that isn't too hard to figure out.



Glasses? Check.
Geniuses? Check.
Meglomania? Check
Prone to monologuing? Check.


Hakase probably went on mad science techno babble tangents within earshot of Godel. While most people are left stupefied or terrified by this, Godel was both intelligent AND depraved enough to join in the tangent. This kind of terrifying interchange resulted in an amicable relation between the two of them.

At least that's my head-canon.
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Old 2013-03-18, 08:44   Link #8595
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See, that "probably" means that we were never shown in the slightest how it happens. Even half a chapter would have been tons of fun to read.
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Old 2013-03-18, 09:34   Link #8596
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See, that "probably" means that we were never shown in the slightest how it happens. Even half a chapter would have been tons of fun to read.
Oh I know.

I still find it kinda hilarious in a way, since initially it's one of those WTF things that make total sense when you think about it.
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Old 2013-03-23, 13:22   Link #8597
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Now this is sad. If you're just going to cram answers for a previous series' mess into another series, you didn't do your job well the first time around.
Well, if it's another full length series of a few hundred chapters, I wouldn't consider it cramming, but a proper sequel that builds some of the unanswered questions. Especially if such a sequel poses more questions.

Given the implications of the ability to move between time-lines (and I presume, parallel worlds), there's a crazy amount of potential to be mined if Akamatsu returns to this world.

Of course, this is if Akamatsu returns to this world.
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Old 2013-03-28, 12:35   Link #8598
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Well, if it's another full length series of a few hundred chapters, I wouldn't consider it cramming, but a proper sequel that builds some of the unanswered questions. Especially if such a sequel poses more questions.

Given the implications of the ability to move between time-lines (and I presume, parallel worlds), there's a crazy amount of potential to be mined if Akamatsu returns to this world.

Of course, this is if Akamatsu returns to this world.
The real world law (to give publishers more power to sue people for doujinshi) made Akamatsu rush the ending. Maybe someone can fix it like the Lelouch S2 remake fancomic or something.....
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Old 2013-03-29, 10:42   Link #8599
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The real world law (to give publishers more power to sue people for doujinshi) made Akamatsu rush the ending. Maybe someone can fix it like the Lelouch S2 remake fancomic or something.....
However, I don't think that's much more than Akamatsu's excuse for it. No one else ever cut their manga short like he did, no law was passed at all, and he went back to Kodansha anyway. And yet he still wants to leave the series buried. Let's face it, he just grew tired of Negima, and now, announcing his next work while saying he'd prefer being an editor in the same statement, we can't really expect him to put much enthusiasm on his next series either. Mark my words, he'll drop it like he did with Negima at the first chance he gets (that is, when he has made enough money out of it).
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Old 2013-03-31, 10:13   Link #8600
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Just a quick reminder folks: Ken Akamatsu is one of the few people who does celebrate the tradition of April Fools Day. As such, you may want to take what he posts on Twitter (and possibly his web diary, if he still uses it) with a grain of salt today and tomorrow.
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