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Old 2013-03-19, 19:55   Link #41
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It does seem like the strawhats are yet again split.
So it's the Zoro/Sanji/Kinemon group
and the Luffy/Franky group.

It's a bit lame though that someone like Zoro got his sword stolen.
This however does provide a chance for Zoro's group to end up in the arena (the contestants being all swordsmen, one might even be the sword thief) and Zoro being handicapped with having just 2 swords (again he's handicapped).
Zoro might even face off against the still mysterious blind dude. All the while Sanji can go undercover.

Personally I hope Luffy get's pissed because the surprise is not special meat but ace's DF and heads in the opposite direction. Having him matched with Franky who's just as unpredictable it can really go either way.
Actually its supposed to be gladiators - classical MP error.
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Old 2013-03-19, 20:11   Link #42
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How can a powerful people like the Blind Swordsman truly ever be undercover if power houses can detect their strong presence? During the time skip training, Rayleigh was able to gauge power levels, detect number of creatures, and their presence. Can Daflamingo or any of his goons detect blind mans power presence at the colosseum?
We have already seen that just like they can sense it, they can also hide it. Animals don't have a reason to hide their presence, and they may not even be capable of it, so they are different than humans. And, even though close to the headquarters, Rayleigh was able to hide his presence successfully for years.

And even though we may not use is as an indicator (cause his opponent was not one of the strongest), Zoro was able to do something similar in his last fight. He showed his true colors at the end, after hiding his true strength earlier.
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Old 2013-03-19, 20:50   Link #43
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I still don't see any of the Straw-Hats eating the mera mera fruit, nor do I see any reason for them to take it for themselves (at least, aside from the ones I listed a couple threads back). But enough of that for now....


Anyway, something I found interesting is that the announcer guy at the tournament still referred to Doflamingo as the king, rather than former king. That further leads me to believe that Mingo fabricated the news of giving up his positions. As far as the sword thief goes, while I said earlier that he could be one of Dofla's goons, I could also see him being the other Wano samurai.


Oh, and lol at Caribou's resemblance to the rebel leader in the ministory.

Well, you still used the raw chapter as the source for your summary, so I think that sorta kinda still counts as a translation..... maybe? But I'll make sure to correct that in future threads, anyway.
Not necessarily (about Joker's status). I mean, just because he quit the shichibukai, it doesn't he still doesn't have authority in Dressrosa. Will see but regardless, Joker is still feared and respected in Dressrosa, that's for sure.

I agree though about the straw-hats crew not eating the mera mera fruit because I'm willing to say it is a safe bet that none of the current non DF-user crew members are going to become fruit users. It is unnecessary, and actually does a disservice to their individual character development that they have worked hard to get this strong without relying on a fruit's power.

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Oh my goodness. Aohige changed his avatar .

As for the chapter itself, I'm intrigued as to where the plot is going. I'm stoked for this tournament, as it's the first time One Piece has done a real tournament arc. It's pretty much a staple for shounen comics. And the old man being an admiral undercover is becoming even more heavily hinted at. It's better that people don't cause a commotion over someone so prestigious, so as not to attract any unwanted attention.
But it would be even better if Oda creates a "New World" tournament with all the new world characters in it. But sadly that would probably happen in a video game only. OR a war....wish there was war now!!!(sarcasm)

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Who is willing to bet on who is gonna get the mera-mera-fruit or NOT get the mera-mera-fruit?

PRIZE: well, no need for one (lol) (or come up with one)

My guess would probably be either no one or momo (just a guess) cuz he only ate a SMILE fruit and nothing more.

Anyhow, a fast paced chapter if you ask me. I'm pretty sure that old man with the scar (who apparently might have a gravitational devil fruit power) is an admiral but we will see.

The purpose of this tournament that Doflamingo ordered Diamante to set up seems to be in order to distract the strawhats crew and law perhaps from their real objective or at the very least delay them and give himself (Joker) more time to orchestrate his true plan (don't know what it is).

Someone here in this forum I believe mentioned about Joker hiding his factory (underground) underneath the Corrida Colosseum since "its obvious place to see but not to suspect" if you what I mean. Again, will see since its hard to guess in One Piece when its Oda writing it.

Hope that there is more content next chapter.

Last note for now...anyone noticed the front cover page of the chapter.

Caribou the revolutionist commander of gabulhas has returned. A Che Guevara theme if you ask me. lol.

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Old 2013-03-19, 22:35   Link #44
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Not necessarily (about Joker's status). I mean, just because he quit the shichibukai, it doesn't he still doesn't have authority in Dressrosa. Will see but regardless, Joker is still feared and respected in Dressrosa, that's for sure.

Well yeah, but remember that the papers announced that he abdicated his throne, as well. So I just find it interesting that he's still referred to as the king when technically he SHOULDN'T be at this point. Another thing to note is what Sanji said last chapter about how odd it was to see that the townsfolk were so calm despite the news. Things like that are what lead me to believe that Dofla is spreading false info via the papers.....



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We have already seen that just like they can sense it, they can also hide it. Animals don't have a reason to hide their presence, and they may not even be capable of it, so they are different than humans.


I dunno..... maybe it's just me, but I'd think that at least SOME prey animals would learn to conceal their presence in order to not get eaten by the big, bad predators!
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Old 2013-03-19, 23:33   Link #45
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Uuugh, please not a tournament.
99% of the time they're just a way for mangaka's to stretch out thin material, and they're always too chatty and boring.

However a battle royal like Kanon mentioned would be pretty cool, and would give us a chance to see how post-timeskip Luffy would fare against real adversaries.
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Old 2013-03-19, 23:43   Link #46
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We have already seen that just like they can sense it, they can also hide it. Animals don't have a reason to hide their presence, and they may not even be capable of it, so they are different than humans. And, even though close to the headquarters, Rayleigh was able to hide his presence successfully for years.

And even though we may not use is as an indicator (cause his opponent was not one of the strongest), Zoro was able to do something similar in his last fight. He showed his true colors at the end, after hiding his true strength earlier.
Hiding yourself
Saboady is may be close to where the old headquarters was, but it is a separate Island from the were the old MarineFord HQ was. I have never seen anyone being able to sense someone on another Island with mantra. Now if Rayleigh had been hiding on Marine Ford HQ island then I would not be asking that question. Luffy noticed the Blind Swordsmen power before he revealed his power. Rayleigh took Luffy to the Island training then started sensing them. Has for Zoro if you are referring to the Harpy battle, the harpy did not have any mantra skill to detect Zoro's power level with that I know of. She only recognized Zoro's power once he unleashed it in front of her. When she gauged Luffy during her confrontation, she went off the bounty and used her skills to determine how powerful Luffy was. If Daflamingo's mantra is on par or near Rayleighs, then he might detect the the blind man presence at the colosseum.
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Old 2013-03-19, 23:46   Link #47
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And I'd love a tourny arc for a change!
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Old 2013-03-20, 01:54   Link #48
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Of course anything is possible, but that's hardly an argument. The only dual fruit user is Blackbeard thus until more pop up his way is the only confirmed way. So I think we should only speculate with the facts we know to keep the discussion sensible.
Thing is though, that Blackbeard first consumed a logia and got the paramecia afterwards.
There is also the point, that his fruit was the darkness fruit, and at the time he consumed Whitebeard's fruit, he was covered in darkness by his crew. I'm convinced that there is more to it than him just wanting that nobody can see what he is doing.


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Uuugh, please not a tournament.
99% of the time they're just a way for mangaka's to stretch out thin material, and they're always too chatty and boring.
I'm sure the manga won't suffer from this tournament. On the other hand the anime may stretch this part out unnecessarily.
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Old 2013-03-20, 02:20   Link #49
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I've been saying it for years and am gonna say it again sanji is gonna inherit fire i wassnt expecting it to be ace's DF but its starting to look that way to me
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Old 2013-03-20, 03:03   Link #50
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Actually its supposed to be gladiators - classical MP error.
Ugh, yeah I noticed when I read another translation. Well that's the last panda release I'm gonna bother with.

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Thing is though, that Blackbeard first consumed a logia and got the paramecia afterwards.
There is also the point, that his fruit was the darkness fruit, and at the time he consumed Whitebeard's fruit, he was covered in darkness by his crew. I'm convinced that there is more to it than him just wanting that nobody can see what he is doing.
You might be right, but since there's nothing to go on might as well stick to what we know. The speculation of Luffy getting another DF is already pretty over the top as it is.
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Old 2013-03-20, 04:40   Link #51
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Hmm I wonder if Blackbeard or someone from his crew will come to claim the Mera Mera fruit, if they're still looking to collect all the strongest fruits it wouldn't be too far fetched. Could you just imagine Blackbeard getting his hands on it in front of Luffy, now that I would love to see.
Have also been leaning on this theory myself back when the fruit was reintroduced, I just couldn't think of a plausible scenario that could lead them here. The tournament setting with a prize kind of solves that problem, but I guess they could just waltz in and take it regardless of the rules! I wouldn't expect Blackbeard himself to be there though, probably one or two of his crew members, but who knows?
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Old 2013-03-20, 08:36   Link #52
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You could try Yu Yu Hakusho if you want a good tournament. I never liked the one in Fairy Tail, but I'm sure Oda will do a better job than that.
yes, i've seen that too. as well as flame of recca. i didn't like them that much.
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Old 2013-03-20, 08:48   Link #53
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Thing is though, that Blackbeard first consumed a logia and got the paramecia afterwards.
There is also the point, that his fruit was the darkness fruit, and at the time he consumed Whitebeard's fruit, he was covered in darkness by his crew. I'm convinced that there is more to it than him just wanting that nobody can see what he is doing.
i really don't consider BB's darkness fruit as a logia...
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yes, i've seen that too. as well as flame of recca. i didn't like them that much.
well, that's as good as a tournament can get imo. If Oda can do it better, then more respect for him
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Old 2013-03-20, 09:48   Link #55
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Anyhow, to all bloggers and members of this forum!!!!!!!!!

Who is willing to bet on who is gonna get the mera-mera-fruit or NOT get the mera-mera-fruit?
My bet is coby.
Also I'm pretty sure somebody is going to have it, otherwise it would be kind of wasted (as a power, i mean)

Also, I don't think Dofla is faking the news (remember the marines talking about it?), I simply think he's hiding it from his people.
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Old 2013-03-20, 10:24   Link #56
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well, that's as good as a tournament can get imo. If Oda can do it better, then more respect for him
i'd rather not see them fight in a tournament. i'd rather have them cause a ruckus while the tournament is going on. maybe declare war on dresrosa? steal the mera mera no mi? or like what my friend suggested, blow up the stadium!
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Old 2013-03-20, 16:57   Link #57
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I also don't see an actually tournament fight either, it'll be too drawn out and strait the focus away from the original Smile factory plot.

That said, I can see them messing up the actual tourney or leaving either Sanji or Zoro there to set up one of their match while the rest advances the story on the search of the factory.

That being said, I more interested in the cover story that apparently it's setting up Caribou to join Revolutionary through the mistaken identity.
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That being said, I more interested in the cover story that apparently it's setting up Caribou to join Revolutionary through the mistaken identity.
Where the real boss of the army will show up and then Caribou kills him and forever takes his place and then turn it into another pirate crew.
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Old 2013-03-20, 21:34   Link #59
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Speaking of the tournament, I haven't really commented much on it yet, but I AM actually pretty interested in seeing who the rest of the participants are. If they're powerful dudes from all around the NW, then this arc probably won't be the last we'll see some of them, depending on who stands out from the rest.


As far as Dofla's crew goes, I'm actually pretty interested in that Senor Pink guy (a fat dude with a pacifier AND hot chicks? Whoa!). Lao G caught my interest, as well (I like how his name sounds like a Chinese kung-fu master's, yet at the same time it kind of sounds like the English "lousy" ). Whether or not the tournament will focus on individual matches I can't say, but I am at least hoping that most of those guys will show off some unique abilities.....
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Old 2013-03-20, 21:36   Link #60
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My bet is coby.
Also I'm pretty sure somebody is going to have it, otherwise it would be kind of wasted (as a power, i mean)

Also, I don't think Dofla is faking the news (remember the marines talking about it?), I simply think he's hiding it from his people.
im aggree with that too

i have feeling that coby will has mera mera fruit

but that just my feeling
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