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View Poll Results: Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha the Movie 2nd A's - Rating
Perfect 10 14 23.33%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 16 26.67%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 12 20.00%
7 out of 10 : Good 3 5.00%
6 out of 10 : Average 8 13.33%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 2 3.33%
4 out of 10 : Poor 3 5.00%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 1.67%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 1 1.67%
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Old 2013-03-16, 17:43   Link #281
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So, the wolks didn't got a henshin sequence either isn't?

I want to know so i can stop expecting one to happen when i get to see the movie ;_;
There was none. What a pity. They had one in the TV series but it's better than nothing.
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Old 2013-03-16, 17:55   Link #282
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There was none. What a pity. They had one in the TV series but it's better than nothing.
The one in the TV series was quite lame, though. That's why i was expecting one in the movie as a compensation but well...
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Old 2013-03-20, 14:59   Link #283
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My copy shipped today. Time to reflect a bit about my impression when I saw this in theater.

First of all the negatives: despite being a movie, there were (not sure in the BD version) some noticeable drops in quality in a few scenes. While nothing spectacular, they really stood out.

As for the story, I remember when the movie was announced, there were strong reactions especially due to the lack of certain characters.
While I won't got that deep into details, as there are still people that have to see the movie, the lack of Graham wasn't really what bothered me that much. Instead, I think a few semi-side characters suffered more, Chrono in particular. He had a pretty decent role in A's but here they talk about him quite a bit, but he really doesn't do that much save in the finale. Yuuno is another that got his role reduced a bit, but was less problematic, at least for me.
I didn't like Volkenritter much even in A's so I'm not really the most suited person to give an opinion on them.
The story, since it tries to compress the series in a single movie, sometimes has focus problems, especially near the end.

For the positives, the animation, save the details I mentioned earlier, it's pretty good, the music is nice and all the cast does a good work as usual. The fight scenes in general are good, and the whole movie can be considered quite enjoyable (for sure, it didn't feel like dragging).

All in all, I think it was worth the ticket. And the BD.

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Old 2013-03-20, 15:40   Link #284
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My copy shipped today. Time to reflect a bit about my impression when I saw this in theater.

First of all the negatives: despite being a movie, there were (not sure in the BD version) some noticeable drops in quality in a few scenes. While nothing spectacular, they really stood out.

As for the story, I remember when the movie was announced, there were strong reactions especially due to the lack of certain characters.
While I won't got that deep into details, as there are still people that have to see the movie, the lack of Graham wasn't really what bothered me that much. Instead, I think a few semi-side characters suffered more, Chrono in particular. He had a pretty decent role in A's but here they talk about him quite a bit, but he really doesn't do that much save in the finale. Yuuno is another that got his role reduced a bit, but was less problematic, at least for me.
I didn't like Volkenritter much even in A's so I'm not really the most suited person to give an opinion on them.
The story, since it tries to compress the series in a single movie, sometimes has focus problems, especially near the end.

For the positives, the animation, save the details I mentioned earlier, it's pretty good, the music is nice and all the cast does a good work as usual. The fight scenes in general are good, and the whole movie can be considered quite enjoyable (for sure, it didn't feel like dragging).

All in all, I think it was worth the ticket. And the BD.
My copy should ship on the 22nd... to a middleman. Then be shipped off to California, for meeeeeeeeee~

But I'll just watch it somewhere else...
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Chrono in particular. He had a pretty decent role in A's but here they talk about him quite a bit, but he really doesn't do that much save in the finale. Yuuno is another that got his role reduced a bit, but was less problematic, at least for me.
I'm not surprised. For the both of them their roles in A's were intertwined with Graham and the Lieze twins. Removing Graham would make a lot of their scenes irrelevant, and therefore easy to cut.
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As for the story, I remember when the movie was announced, there were strong reactions especially due to the lack of certain characters.
Strong positive reactions or strong negative reactions?
Strong positive to mean: Hell yeah, no more guys!
Strong negative to mean: WTF happened to those two?!
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Just to be clear here, they reduce Chrono and Yuuno's time, take out Graham and the Lieze twins from the movie, correct?

But they still kept the Lotus Dream Eater scene for Fate, right?
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Just to be clear here, they reduce Chrono and Yuuno's time, take out Graham and the Lieze twins from the movie, correct?

But they still kept the Lotus Dream Eater scene for Fate, right?
Course they did. It's about the two best aces XD
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So...

Cut out screen time of characters, which cuts down on development of said characters (again!). Leave a scene that really could be cut out (Fate got a TON of focus in the first movie, did she need MORE here?!)...

Hmm...

Yeaaah... All that REALLY makes me want to see a movie that's mostly about Fate (again). The first movie suffered because of that after all.
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If you check the 2 trailers about the Blu-Ray.... yeah, there's a lot of focus on Fate XD
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So, I wonder how much MORE got cut from A's for this... Did they cut out Suzuka making friends with Hayate as well?

Or maybe they cut out the scenes of Hayate with her family and showing how Hayate was a really kind girl and didn't want to cause trouble?
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They probably cut out the interaction with Hayate's family (Hayate and Wolks).
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Just to be clear here, they reduce Chrono and Yuuno's time, take out Graham and the Lieze twins from the movie, correct?
Yes. The story doesn't suffer that much from the lack of Graham and the twins, IMO.

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Yeaaah... All that REALLY makes me want to see a movie that's mostly about Fate (again). The first movie suffered because of that after all.
I can certainly say that's not the case. It's mostly balanced, a few "character focus" transitions are a bit sudden, but in general I didn't see the whole "movie mostly about Fate" problem.
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Yes. The story doesn't suffer that much from the lack of Graham and the twins, IMO.
What version of the Nanoha Blu-Ray did you get?
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What version of the Nanoha Blu-Ray did you get?
Special Edition. The Super Special Edition wasn't worth the price, for an extra book and a DVD of the Lyrical Party which frankly doesn't interest me at all.
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Yes. The story doesn't suffer that much from the lack of Graham and the twins, IMO.
So, does the movie explain how Hayate can live on her own or not?

Also, how does the fact that the Twins aren't there affect how the later fights (Signum vs Fate and Nanoha vs Vita on those other worlds) plays out? Or how, when the Wolkenritter were trapped in that field, how Shamal fired that spell when Chrono was hunting her down without the Twins to help her out?
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So, does the movie explain how Hayate can live on her own or not?
Hmm, frankly I don't remember well now, I think it was briefly mentioned but don't take my word for it - I have to rewatch the movie to be sure.
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So, does the movie explain how Hayate can live on her own or not?
At least before the Book of Darkness.... (the Wolkenritter did Graham's job by working and stuff....). Or, by the power of Nanohaverse magic, I command thee, forget what you saw here and believe that these guys are real.
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Hardly a story critical detail, in my opinion. At least, not something the entire movie will fall apart on.
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Hmm, well, briefly mentioned is still better than how the first movie was handled.
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