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Old 2013-03-25, 00:00   Link #1101
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Old 2013-03-25, 17:29   Link #1102
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Found this Japanese clip. It looks like there are some minor differences in the dialogue. For example in English Raiden said "It's time for Jack to let him rip." In the original he says "This is my fight, I'll show you my killing instinct." Also, he says more often "Katsujinken" when referring to his beliefs.

Can't tell any other changes though.
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Old 2013-03-25, 17:35   Link #1103
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Essentially the Japanese Raiden tends to play it up straight while the American Raiden is more... You know, spunky? I guess.
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Old 2013-03-25, 19:26   Link #1104
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Quinn does Raiden so much better. Japanese raiden just sounds... snake..
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Old 2013-03-25, 19:54   Link #1105
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Quinn does Raiden so much better. Japanese raiden just sounds... snake..
No kidding. I mean see this interaction in Solid 2.
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Old 2013-03-25, 19:59   Link #1106
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The Animes I watch dont really have a lot of gruff older men so I'm not used to differentiating their voices.
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Old 2013-03-25, 21:15   Link #1107
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The Animes I watch dont really have a lot of gruff older men so I'm not used to differentiating their voices.
The thing is that back in Solid 2 Raiden was supposed to be a young adult but that voice is what every teen wishes to have. In Solid 4 it fitted more since Raiden was more grown up.
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Old 2013-03-25, 21:16   Link #1108
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Wait, how old was Raiden then and now?
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Old 2013-03-25, 21:22   Link #1109
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Raiden's exact age is never revealed, but he was born in the 1980's, so at the oldest he was 29 years old during the Big Shell incident in MGS2 since that took place in 2009.

So in this game which is set in 2018, Raiden would be 38 at the most, but that probably doesn't matter since he's a cyborg now.
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Old 2013-03-25, 21:25   Link #1110
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Raiden's exact age is never revealed, but he was born in the 1980's , so at the oldest he was 29 years old during the Big Shell incident in MGS2 since that took place in 2009.

So in this game which is set in 2018, Raiden would be 38 at the most, but that probably doesn't matter since he's a cyborg now.
I'm guessing 23; he was suppose to be a young man after all.
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Old 2013-03-25, 21:32   Link #1111
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In Rising Raiden is supposed to be 9 years older than in Solid 2. What confuses me is that most Desperado guys call him boy meaning most Desperado might be in their 40s or something.
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Old 2013-03-25, 21:52   Link #1112
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In Rising Raiden is supposed to be 9 years older than in Solid 2. What confuses me is that most Desperado guys call him boy meaning most Desperado might be in their 40s or something.
Not necessarily, its used as a mockery.

Like maybe he's still naive and innocent and talking about Justice.

And he is young looking.
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Old 2013-03-26, 02:53   Link #1113
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Old 2013-03-26, 02:56   Link #1114
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Old 2013-03-26, 07:41   Link #1115
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Considering Raiden's face in Solid 4 and Rising, it looks like he is still growing up.

Also, Sam also has Zandatsu?
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Old 2013-03-26, 21:38   Link #1116
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Old 2013-03-26, 21:52   Link #1117
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Considering Raiden's face in Solid 4 and Rising, it looks like he is still growing up.

Also, Sam also has Zandatsu?
why wouldn't he? I mean the zandatsu is just raiden reaching into a cut in half body and pulling out a repair unit, sam should be able to do it to since he is better skilled at using a blade than raiden is, actually I believe raiden would have lost his fight with sam
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Old 2013-03-26, 21:57   Link #1118
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why wouldn't he? I mean the zandatsu is just raiden reaching into a cut in half body and pulling out a repair unit, sam should be able to do it to since he is better skilled at using a blade than raiden is, actually I believe raiden would have lost his fight with sam
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Doktor pretty much explains that Zandatsu is kind of from the latest technology since the cybernetic body absorbs the repair unit so it seems weird that for Sam to have it.

Also, Ripper Mode is pretty useless in boss fights.
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Old 2013-03-26, 22:07   Link #1119
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Doktor pretty much explains that Zandatsu is kind of from the latest technology since the cybernetic body absorbs the repair unit so it seems weird that for Sam to have it.

Also, Ripper Mode is pretty useless in boss fights.
whose to say that sam cybernetics aren't the latest he could have upgraded to be like that, remember desperado had the latest metal gear(yes I know who was piloting it doesn't change the fact it was painted desperado colors and had its insignia on it) and I wasn't talking about ripper mode i'm talking about the ripper if monsoon hadn't awakened him raiden would not have been able to beat sam especially since sam was fighting seriously because he would have still been thinking his sword as a tool for justice and not a weapon for killing
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Old 2013-03-26, 22:34   Link #1120
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whose to say that sam cybernetics aren't the latest he could have upgraded to be like that, remember desperado had the latest metal gear(yes I know who was piloting it doesn't change the fact it was painted desperado colors and had its insignia on it) and I wasn't talking about ripper mode i'm talking about the ripper if monsoon hadn't awakened him raiden would not have been able to beat sam especially since sam was fighting seriously because he would have still been thinking his sword as a tool for justice and not a weapon for killing
Well the he'd be fighting a handicapped raiden, it's like saying "oh Frieza would have beaten goku if he didnt turn super saiyan" Well yeah of course he would have, but the thing is they DID.

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