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Old 2013-03-28, 16:38   Link #61
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In that case, Luffy's hat should eat the fruit.
I like this idea. Which could then lead them looking for Dr. Vegapunk. Seeing he is the most knowladgeable about DFs.
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Old 2013-03-28, 18:32   Link #62
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To be fair, Luffy DID start that war at marinford for the sole purpose of saving Ace. I'd take that as a pretty close relationship.
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Old 2013-03-28, 18:42   Link #63
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Does anyone else here find it silly how Doflamingo essentially "banked" on Luffy wanting to get the mera mera fruit? It's as though he had no other plans to lure Luffy into a trap, so he resorted to a plan where he would "hope" Luffy would take the bait. After all, he had no idea what kind of relationship Luffy and Ace had. This all just seems like a blind shot on his part; dependent on nothing but chance and luck. So far, he doesn't give me the impression of being the criminal mastermind that Crocodile was.

I don't think is was 'silly', maybe not as 100% fail proof as some (including me) would have liked, sure, but I don't think it was 'silly'.

After all the world saw Luffy butt in the Summit War to rescue Ace and how he broke down when Ace died so it is not THAT far a stretch to bank that Luffy would try anything to get his hand on the DF. No plan are ever foolproof anyway, especially in battle tactics and strategies. As far as Dofla goes, that may be his best choice.

I mean what else can he really do? Having his people leaking a fake location of the factory and set up a trap there? That's no more realistic than Mera-Mera considering he can't guarantee they won't see through it. Besides, Dofla still not 100% sure what they are up to and that they are actually after the factory itself.

To me it was more of throw it out there and see if they bite. If they do great, if they don't, it's not worse than you started with. Though I think Dolfa, with his cockiness assume a, say, 70% success-rate plan as a 100% plan. But in the end, Luffy still took the bait, though I think Franky is having something up too because he seem to realize it's a bait but still encourage Luffy to take it since they don't have a lead anyway.

Either way, it still makes more logical sense compare to Sanji/Violet if Voilet ends up to be part of Dofla's trap as well for the same reason you describe. Sanji's weakness to women is an even harder to learn unless you are up close with him. Although I still think Violet is up to something.
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Old 2013-03-28, 20:06   Link #64
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So hey, I've seen a theory floating around that I actually found kinda interesting due to how unlikely it seems: What if Violet is Fujitora? Again, I know this sounds really out there, but consider one thing: "Fuji" refers to the wisteria flower, whose colors include purple AND violet! So now there's a chance that either the blind man OR the woman currently seducing Sanji could be the new admiral (personally I'm still betting on the blind man, though ).
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Old 2013-03-28, 23:00   Link #65
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So hey, I've seen a theory floating around that I actually found kinda interesting due to how unlikely it seems: What if Violet is Fujitora? Again, I know this sounds really out there, but consider one thing: "Fuji" refers to the wisteria flower, whose colors include purple AND violet! So now there's a chance that either the blind man OR the woman currently seducing Sanji could be the new admiral (personally I'm still betting on the blind man, though ).
If Fuji is Violet and she is the admiral thhhheeennnn this could mean that the old man could join Lucy's crew. I hope he is wise and also likes history because then Robin would have some to talk to about history.
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Old 2013-03-29, 08:37   Link #66
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What if that one legged doll is Fujitora!? Or that doll that served them at the bar!? Or that guy that tried to scam the blind guy!? Or the fairies that stole Zoro's sword!? Or that one guy that Lucy just KOed!?

OMG!!!! WHAT IF LUCY IS FUJITORA!?
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Old 2013-03-29, 10:33   Link #67
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There's also been some speculation roaming around that the blind old man is the 7th shichibukai. I really don't think that's the case however because he seems too honourable to be the despicable and cowardly pirate the shichibukai supposedly is.
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Old 2013-03-29, 10:40   Link #68
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Master Roshi, is that you?
its like the budokai when they tought that jackie choun was an old geezer and also kurilin for is little size toward the giant
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Old 2013-03-29, 11:02   Link #69
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It would be interesting if one of the Whitebeard pirates and/or Blackbeard pirates entered this tournament. I'm getting the impression that Luffy is going to stomp a lot of the competition, so we need some worthy adversaries besides the Donquixote family.
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Old 2013-03-29, 11:16   Link #70
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It would be interesting if one of the Whitebeard pirates and/or Blackbeard pirates entered this tournament. I'm getting the impression that Luffy is going to stomp a lot of the competition, so we need some worthy adversaries besides the Donquixote family.
Luffy can only "stomp" the competition if he can use all his abilities. Since he is supposed to be undercover (posing as Lucy), there is a strong likelihood that Oda will only have Luffy use his Haki or Gear 2 speed, and other such unnoticeable Gomu abilities.

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There's also been some speculation roaming around that the blind old man is the 7th shichibukai. I really don't think that's the case however because he seems too honourable to be the despicable and cowardly pirate the shichibukai supposedly is.
I always kind of saw Mihawk and Kuma as being fairly honourable (maybe Law?). They could simply be the exception, but I wouldn't say being dishonorable has to be a facet of being a Shichibukai.
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Old 2013-03-29, 11:18   Link #71
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Luffy can only "stomp" the competition if he can use all his abilities. Since he is supposed to be undercover (posing as Lucy), there is a strong likelihood that Oda will only have Luffy use his Haki or Gear 2 speed, and other such unnoticeable Gomu abilities.
^ He's probably going to encounter someone that will force him to use his DF abilities, and that's when his cover will be blown and the whole tournament will become a mess. At that point, shit will hit the fan for real .

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I always kind of saw Mihawk and Kuma as being fairly honourable (maybe Law?). They could simply be the exception, but I wouldn't say being dishonorable has to be a facet of being a Shichibukai.
The thing is, the 7th mystery shichibukai is known as someone who pleaded and begged for their life against a former admiral in the past.
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Old 2013-03-29, 11:29   Link #72
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^ He's probably going to encounter someone that will force him to use his DF abilities, and that's when his cover will be blown and the whole tournament will become a mess. At that point, shit will hit the fan for real .
I guess it all depends on what Oda wants this tournament to be (duh). I can see the possibility that DoFlamingo wants Luffy to have the fruit (for whatever reason), so the odds could be stacked in Luffy's favour from the start. Or, Luffy could keep his anonymity and lose because he doesn't use his DF powers (but get the fruit after the fact). Or maybe his powers are revealed and he simply takes a grab at the fruit without even winning the tournament (I actually thought he would have simply stolen the fruit without participating in the tournament).

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The thing is, the 7th mystery shichibukai is known as someone who pleaded and begged for their life against a former admiral in the past.
I do not recall that. What chapter is this info from?
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Old 2013-03-29, 11:34   Link #73
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I do not recall that. What chapter is this info from?
It's actually from Chapter Z for the new One Piece film Z. Apparently, this guy managed to cut off Zephyr's (a former admiral and mentor to Aokiji, Kizaru, and Akainu) forearm in the past (9 years ago from the present time). Garp also states that this person became a shichibukai during the time-skip, so it's been confirmed. In case you're wondering, Oda indeed oversaw the production and story of this film.

Suffice it to say, this mystery shichibukai is probably the strongest out of the new recruits.
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Old 2013-03-29, 13:43   Link #74
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The thing is, the 7th mystery shichibukai is known as someone who pleaded and begged for their life against a former admiral in the past.
Bonney?


BTW, I like the idea of a female admiral, which was mentioned here.
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Old 2013-03-29, 13:53   Link #75
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Bonney?


BTW, I like the idea of a female admiral, which was mentioned here.
I really doubt its Bonney, matter of fact, I am pretty sure it is 100 percent not Bonney due to the age differences.

Though if there was a likely person to join the Straw Hats with an easy incentive it is her. Bonney is a glutton and the Straw Hats happens to have an excellent chef who would do anything for a women. I can imagine comical sequences of Bonney joining the crew and Sanji cooking up so much food over her.
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Old 2013-03-29, 14:06   Link #76
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Bonney?
Bonney would have been 15 years old during that incident. Doubt she would have been strong enough to pull off something like that. It's not her.
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Old 2013-03-29, 14:10   Link #77
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I really doubt its Bonney, matter of fact, I am pretty sure it is 100 percent not Bonney due to the age differences.
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Bonney would have been 15 years old during that incident. Doubt she would have been strong enough to pull off something like that. It's not her.
Except Bonney can control her age, so any age difference need not matter.

The real problem is strength and reputation. Bonney was being held captive by Blackbeard and his crew before she was rescued by the marines. If she is really strong enough to fight an Admiral (even if mostly by luck) she should have been able to fight Blackbeard. Additionally, she was considered part of the Supernovas which were recent pirates, whereas this mysterious extra Shichibukai would have been a pirate/fighter decades previous (which means that they should have been famous for quite some time).

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Though if there was a likely person to join the Straw Hats with an easy incentive it is her.
Bonney actually holds a grudge against the Strawhats (for causing a ruccus which forced the marines to send an Admiral).
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Except Bonney can control her age, so any age difference need not matter.

The real problem is strength and reputation. Bonney was being held captive by Blackbeard and his crew before she was rescued by the marines. If she is really strong enough to fight an Admiral (even if mostly by luck) she should have been able to fight Blackbeard. Additionally, she was considered part of the Supernovas which were recent pirates, whereas this mysterious extra Shichibukai would have been a pirate/fighter decades previous (which means that they should have been famous for quite some time).



Bonney actually holds a grudge against the Strawhats (for causing a ruccus which forced the marines to send an Admiral).
I haven't forgotten that aspect of Bonney, she does have that grudge, but after two years I feel that she would have lighten up on that matter. I am surprise she haven't found her crew (were they all killed during her confrontation of Blackbeard).
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Old 2013-03-29, 17:20   Link #79
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Except Bonney can control her age, so any age difference need not matter.
You're not taking into account that she may not have had her DF back then (9 years ago).
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Old 2013-03-29, 17:55   Link #80
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You're not taking into account that she may not have had her DF back then (9 years ago).
You're not taking into account that she may have had her DF a 100 years . There is no official age for Bonney (that I know of), just a presumed age based on physical appearance which ultimately doesn't matter since she can change her age quite easily. It's unclear what her power is, how it works or even everything she can do. For all we know Bonney could be from the lost century or she could be a year old.

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