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Old 2013-04-04, 07:02   Link #41201
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The importance of air superiority in warfare is very circumstantial.

It doesn't help that there are so many different ways you can wage war.
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Old 2013-04-04, 07:03   Link #41202
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Jungle warfare I suppose. A platoon of 120 men up against rebels and an incomplete IS which has its PIC down so loss of flight capabilities and lower agility.
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Old 2013-04-04, 07:11   Link #41203
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A hundred and twenty men doesn't sound like a lot, they must be out of their minds.

Is it a mountain? If it is, navy helps.
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Old 2013-04-04, 07:15   Link #41204
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To be fair, air superiority DOES bring absolute victory all the time, it's just that the economic and strategic value of said victory can be very dismal. Air force are much more expensive to operate and maintain than tactical equivalent of the army.

War against insurgent for example, is the reason of why drones are deployed much more often, air superiority and manned close air support is not needed at all because the freedom fighters doesn't even have aircraft to operate and their ground assets are pitiful.

And without PIC... I can say that pilot in that unit will be fucked up sideway then some, unless this platoon of infantry forgot to bring heavy weapon and support, then Box does have his point, it's a senseless suicide.
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Old 2013-04-04, 07:31   Link #41205
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Regardless of the IS' mobility, depending on what type of IS it is it should still have considerable firepower.

It's even worse if they don't know there's an IS, or even if they know there is one but they're not familiar with it.

If the rebels have any sense of coordination at all, the IS should be a deciding factor.
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Old 2013-04-04, 07:33   Link #41206
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It's inland and they are armed with special anti IS weaponry. They didn't expect it to be active because the rebels stole the core in transit. The anti-IS weaponry was a precautionary matter. Not to mention experimental. It was perfect excuse to run their live tests.

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Old 2013-04-04, 07:49   Link #41207
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That, ironically or perhaps frustratingly enough, begs to ask more questions than it gives answers.

First of all, 'anti-IS weaponry' is vague, just what is that supposed to mean, other than it was meant for an IS.

But more than that is the possible knowledge, or lack thereof. Do the rebels know they're packing that stuff? Even if they did, are they familiar with the weapons themselves? What about whoever is the pilot?

Inland does actually make an aerial assault seem more risky.

The longer you spend flying over enemy territory, the more opportunities they have to shoot you down.
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Old 2013-04-04, 08:22   Link #41208
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Past stuff I made. Out of 120, just about 14 people survive.

The IS core is to be transported but was stolen by rebels in mid transit. It has no frame yet but earlier in the year a frame was stolen within the area. It's basic but features a prototype energy rifle. They suspect the rebels also stole the frame and are in the process of installing the core. They aren't sure the rebels have the know how to actually do this, but they decided to use the anti-IS platoon anyway.
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Old 2013-04-04, 09:01   Link #41209
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My verdict on the result.

49-51 in favor of the anti-IS guys.
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Old 2013-04-04, 09:29   Link #41210
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Yeah, it's a close fight. That was what I aimed for. PTSD in a fight against an IS. the whole thing was written off as never happening. It's all changed so that the rebels were destroyed when they tried to hijack an IS which was being tested. The pilot(pulled out of nowhere) is hailed as a hero. The anti-IS unit is disbanded. This is to make it so people feel secure about IS, though it ended up killing over half the corps and indirectly causing another good 10 deaths indirectly.

It would be the backstory for that other OC I named, Brave Morrison.

EDIT: For some reason I'm really not happy about my ideas for Cake eater. Wonder if I should do something else first?

@jak: I now know what you were going through XD

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Old 2013-04-04, 20:36   Link #41211
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Does Charlotte and Laura always keep a gun handy? I'm thinking of a scenario where a Strike Jabber attacks the students while they're without their IS.
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Old 2013-04-04, 20:39   Link #41212
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Laura keeps a knife. Charlotte is unarmed.
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Old 2013-04-04, 20:50   Link #41213
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When are any of them unarmed, though?
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Old 2013-04-04, 20:55   Link #41214
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when Chifuyu is around they can't deploy their IS...
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Old 2013-04-04, 21:23   Link #41215
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It was a response to what Stratos mentioned.

They're never really unarmed.
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Old 2013-04-04, 21:38   Link #41216
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Does Charlotte and Laura always keep a gun handy? I'm thinking of a scenario where a Strike Jabber attacks the students while they're without their IS.
I remember Houki carrying a Katana at one point in the series.

Cecilia and Rin, I don't know.

Laura does for sure with a knife. Charlotte on the other hand...

Spoiler for Light Novel Vol 6, Ch. 2.:
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Old 2013-04-05, 04:47   Link #41217
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To be fair, air superiority DOES bring absolute victory all the time
- Vietnam War.
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Old 2013-04-05, 08:09   Link #41218
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- Vietnam War.
A magnificent victory in a battle or two doesn't mean you can win entire war, and sometimes those victorious moments just not worth the cost.

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The question is why it's published on a shoujo publisher (Hana To yume)

And the other one....

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Old 2013-04-05, 08:17   Link #41219
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I have a feeling I should not ask where that's really from...

Anyways, a CC scene(finally...?):
Spoiler for Ambush...ish:


This is prior to the Algolis Shroud's debut.
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Old 2013-04-05, 08:20   Link #41220
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I was referring to a battle actually so yeah... for some reason I'm not confident about my work... damn writer's block.
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