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Old 2013-04-04, 14:25   Link #4161
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Wow. Aoi's Red Tails are useless. Or what, Ringo's are also demon-powered?
Pretty sure they are, it is implied that they also have demonic power.
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Old 2013-04-04, 17:13   Link #4162
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Ringo is very lucky that it's Oga in Beel's body atm and even more so that Hilda isn't there.
There would be no place to hide.

And I totally forgot Oga can still kick ass in Beel's body
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Old 2013-04-04, 17:36   Link #4163
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All this and Ringo still doesn't find any of this weird
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Old 2013-04-04, 18:08   Link #4164
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All this and Ringo still doesn't find any of this weird
Well she is pretty weird herself, so weird may just be normal.
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Old 2013-04-04, 21:20   Link #4165
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then again if Ringo is familiar with demons then she must be aware of demons like Beel (regardless of body switch). a talking baby is no surprise if you know theres a good chance it may be a demon.

i do hope Koma can still be used by Aoi though the mark vs protective spirit may be an mutually exclusive relationship.
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Old 2013-04-05, 06:09   Link #4166
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Aoi getting mark on her chest kinda made me feel dissapointed or is it just me? She is the type just like Toujou who aims to get stronger by own her means. I don't mind other characters gets mark as well but somehow I don't approve this. When you need Koma he is not here that friggin pervert dog. Anyways I guess there is no other way to fight againist spell masters other than getting mark from Oga and I'm sure that since Oga doesn't know his latent powers about him being spell master I guess after this chapter he gradually starts to realize that he can give mark to those who is in need of power in desperate situation. So Oga approves Aoi from bottom of his heart and this mean that these could get more closer than before in their relationships in the future. But one thing I'm worried about is that Toujou and he is the friggin beast when it comes to fighting. So I wonder when he gets mark I wonder if this also breaks his image as powerful fightning beast. Anyways this arc is just a nice prelude to further story about demons so I' m looking forward to upcoming chapters.
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Old 2013-04-05, 09:00   Link #4167
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^ maybe, but on the other hand a bunch of human kids in 'base' beating demon contractors/spellmasters would be too much too, no ?


I want Aoi to win as well (and was dissapointed reading the raws), but this wasn't too bad IMO
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Old 2013-04-05, 09:02   Link #4168
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Aoi getting mark on her chest kinda made me feel dissapointed or is it just me? She is the type just like Toujou who aims to get stronger by own her means. I don't mind other characters gets mark as well but somehow I don't approve this. When you need Koma he is not here that friggin pervert dog. Anyways I guess there is no other way to fight againist spell masters other than getting mark from Oga and I'm sure that since Oga doesn't know his latent powers about him being spell master I guess after this chapter he gradually starts to realize that he can give mark to those who is in need of power in desperate situation. So Oga approves Aoi from bottom of his heart and this mean that these could get more closer than before in their relationships in the future. But one thing I'm worried about is that Toujou and he is the friggin beast when it comes to fighting. So I wonder when he gets mark I wonder if this also breaks his image as powerful fightning beast. Anyways this arc is just a nice prelude to further story about demons so I' m looking forward to upcoming chapters.
Toujou did have some issues fighting demon powered opponents in the past so i expect he'll have some issues with the current opponents though i do hope he isnt wiped on the floor by them.
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Old 2013-04-05, 10:09   Link #4169
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I'm wondering why people think that by accepting the mark, Aoi has somehow lost 'woman'points. Not so much on here but in other discussions, it's like people hate that she's a sub now. I know that's not the case and that they don't like that she was portrayed as being weak so that Oga could rescue her with a pwr up.

I don't know why she was holding back from using her normal techs. Aoi does try to take responsibility for a lot of things - too much sometimes. She probably still felt guilty for leaving the Red Tails for such a selfish reason as a guy - a guy that is too dense sometimes.

Other than that, there's really no reason we should be surprised. I mean, outside of Furnichi, Aoi has shown the most loyalty to Oga and her taking the #2, I bet that Oga considers her his Rear Guard General, which is a pretty trustworthy position.

Kanzaki = Forward Assault General
Kunieda = Rear Guard General

How will the others flesh out...
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Old 2013-04-05, 10:14   Link #4170
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well Oga is the de facto leader, but that doesn't make the rest "subs" .. it makes the bonds stronger if anything .. and it's Beel too, not just Oga, Beel & Aoi are pretty close as well (though that doesn't really work for the guys )

and yeah, they do need that power-up it seems, why not, the enemies and Oga himself are using those powers



Aois loss was at least partially emotionally influenced too .. sure she got beat up at first, but only lost for good when she didn't even bother blocking Ringos slash to finish her off

& we know that she can be emotionally fragile at times
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Old 2013-04-05, 10:23   Link #4171
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& we know that she can be emotionally fragile at times
Yet these emotions will give her awesome power boost in the future for sure when Oga will stop being blockhead just like in this chapter.
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Old 2013-04-06, 03:18   Link #4172
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I'm wondering why people think that by accepting the mark, Aoi has somehow lost 'woman'points. Not so much on here but in other discussions, it's like people hate that she's a sub now. I know that's not the case and that they don't like that she was portrayed as being weak so that Oga could rescue her with a pwr up.

I don't know why she was holding back from using her normal techs. Aoi does try to take responsibility for a lot of things - too much sometimes. She probably still felt guilty for leaving the Red Tails for such a selfish reason as a guy - a guy that is too dense sometimes.

Other than that, there's really no reason we should be surprised. I mean, outside of Furnichi, Aoi has shown the most loyalty to Oga and her taking the #2, I bet that Oga considers her his Rear Guard General, which is a pretty trustworthy position.

Kanzaki = Forward Assault General
Kunieda = Rear Guard General

How will the others flesh out...
Because she wasn't dependent on Oga in the past and that is why i think readers liked about her.
No matter how you try to bend it she is a sub now.She is now officially Beel's minion because the power she got belongs to Beel not to Oga.
She was never portrayed as being mentally and physically weak why now all of a sudden?It is bad writing on authors part.

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Yet these emotions will give her awesome power boost in the future for sure when Oga will stop being blockhead just like in this chapter.
Power boost without training is an asspull.
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Old 2013-04-06, 04:06   Link #4173
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Because she wasn't dependent on Oga in the past and that is why i think readers liked about her.
No matter how you try to bend it she is a sub now.She is now officially Beel's minion because the power she got belongs to Beel not to Oga.
She was never portrayed as being mentally and physically weak why now all of a sudden?It is bad writing on authors part.
What wrong with Aoi being portray weak? In my opinion, it will help expand her characterization further than only being in "tough girl" category. Why is Aoi a underling now? I'm confuse at this last part, are you stating "what if" she got power from Beel? Personally I wouldn't think to much of Beel.

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Power boost without training is an asspull.
Haha, not really. Like the guy stated, she will learn from this experience and get stronger, but you insist this part is asspull for a quick power-up, but not totally true, she will overtime (training/months) get stronger.
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Old 2013-04-06, 04:55   Link #4174
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What wrong with Aoi being portray weak? In my opinion, it will help expand her characterization further than only being in "tough girl" category. Why is Aoi a underling now? I'm confuse at this last part, are you stating "what if" she got power from Beel? Personally I wouldn't think to much of Beel.
She is portrayed weak just to force to make her to become the leader of the red tails again.It seems kinda forced.In the past she has rejected the offer to become the leader.It's contradictory.


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Haha, not really. Like the guy stated, she will learn from this experience and get stronger, but you insist this part is asspull for a quick power-up, but not totally true, she will overtime (training/months) get stronger.
If he had stated that she will get a mental power boost from this i would have agreed with that.It's that he just said power boost which normally means getting phyiscally stronger which is considerd an asspull without training physically.

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Old 2013-04-06, 05:00   Link #4175
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there is no mental power boost lol


just feeling confident allows her to fight at full power rather then being gimped by her own emotions
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Old 2013-04-06, 05:12   Link #4176
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there is no mental power boost lol


just feeling confident allows her to fight at full power rather then being gimped by her own emotions
It has the same meaning.
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Old 2013-04-06, 05:36   Link #4177
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Power boost without training is an asspull.
Sometimes real life experience is much better than mindless training. It reminds me of Campione where the hero gets power up in each fight without any training.

This chapter feels boring for me, though not because of Aoi's power up. I'm just not too interested in Aoi's feeling towards her subordinate in this chapter since.. well, I mean, isn't it a bit late to think about that?

Hopefully the next chapter will deliver.
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Old 2013-04-06, 05:39   Link #4178
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Beelzebub does not have mindless training its done for a purpose.On the positive side,Kunieda will eventually have two external sources of power when Koma joins her.She also will have the choice to use 3 kinds of techniques:Shingestu style,Black techs and Zebul emblem.Which makes her quite unique in that perspective.

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Old 2013-04-06, 06:13   Link #4179
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tbh I hope she's done with Koma at this point
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Old 2013-04-06, 13:42   Link #4180
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I'd say it's purely for plot that Koma happens to be away. Everyone is gonna get a zebul emblem, and Aoi with Koma + zebul would be too powerful for these opponents... probably.
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