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Old 2013-03-31, 21:55   Link #501
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Dusk Taker was Purple; my theory states that Purple avatars are stronger or faster than Yellow and Red avatars, which is what gives them an advantage in direct-confrontation at close-combat.
My bad. So she'll run slower than Taker anyway...maybe about as fast as Pile?

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Ardor Maiden is the shrine maiden avatar. Sky Raker looks nothing like that.
To clarify, Persona is another rare duel avatar that is clothed, and it so happens that her clothes are that of the shrine maiden uniform.

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How long does it last? Can repeated strikes increase the effect? If so, how bad can the effect get?
Just about 5 seconds. Repeated strikes within this timeframe do not stack on the stun duration, but the extent to which the avatar is stunned does, as well as the damage from being hit with what is essentially a hard stick.

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Okay, I can sort of accept that for an avatar that is frail enough and weak enough to have lots of trouble getting SP the normal way.

It's important to remember that powers which would be game-breaking for some avatars would not be so for others.
Like how it's okay for Crow to fly, but not someone with long-range firepower to? I understand...maybe.

I'm editing the post to reflect these changes as well as a list of the moves she learns at which level.
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Old 2013-03-31, 22:09   Link #502
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Continuing from her initial concept;

Lemon Persona received the move Personalization (Type Red) as her Level 4 special move.

From what we've seen so far, it's possible that the level 1 special move is deliberately awkward and hard to use, but delivers huge returns on damage dealing.

A possible Level 1 special move for Persona is Alert Sign. Consuming 40-50% of her special gauge, rings of floating calligraphy characters, glowing distinctively yellow, appear around both her and the opponent, regardless of separation.

The opponent is tracked by these rings for three seconds, after which it freezes in place. The characters 悪、心、and 死 appear in quick succession before converging on that spot to inflict non-elemental damage. In an equal level fight, the opponent can receive as much as 50% damage.
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Old 2013-03-31, 22:48   Link #503
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My bad. So she'll run slower than Taker anyway...maybe about as fast as Pile?
Haruyuki considered Cyan Pile considerably fast, despite using an objectively faster avatar in Silver Crow.

Pile is much Bluer than Taker, so his body is more powerful. Granted, his weight impedes his acceleration and grace, but he might be nearly as fast as Taker.

Pile calls Taker a speed-type, but that's not the same as saying that Taker is faster. It just means that Taker is built more for quickness than brute force. Pile can say that about any avatar which might be slower than himself but obviously built for mobility.

It's possible that Cyan Pile can outrun Blood Leopard's initial form, since she's a Red. Obviously, he couldn't possibly keep up with her cat form, and her cat form might be physically stronger.


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To clarify, Persona is another rare duel avatar that is clothed, and it so happens that her clothes are that of the shrine maiden uniform.
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Like how it's okay for Crow to fly, but not someone with long-range firepower to?
Exactly.

Also like how it's okay for a close-range combatant like Black Lotus to have absolute-dismemberment and one-hit-kill strikes, whereas a sniper would necessarily need such abilities counter-balanced with more significant drawbacks or requirements.
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Old 2013-03-31, 22:57   Link #504
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Dat spoiler. O_o Is there a source apart from the games? I've always assumed those clothes came with her avatar.

And of all things, I've yet to see a character development get stuck on their running speed.

How fast does Scarlet Rain run without her fortress? Canonically only she, Lime Bell, and Nickel Doll share the same size and physique and Persona.
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Old 2013-04-01, 04:13   Link #505
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Scarlet Rain ran fast enough to keep up with Crow (carrying Lotus) and Pile, but they may have been slowing to her pace to keep from leaving her behind. Well, Crow was carrying Lotus, and Pile would be matching at least Crow's slowed pace because he had vowed to serve as a shield to his team.

On the other hand, Rain might have been slowing her pace to theirs so as not to leave herself exposed.

Basically, there's not enough information.
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Old 2013-04-02, 07:49   Link #506
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Gah.

I got my hands on Chinese translations for the Blu-ray side story featuring Prominence's history, maybe that might yield more details.

Until then, my top priority is still translation. If all we're talking about is Persona's running speed and moveset (which you have yet to comment on), then I may safely say she's done. (:
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Old 2013-04-03, 21:09   Link #507
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Persona's running speed and moveset (which you have yet to comment on
I don't think I like it, but I don't have any clear reasons or arguments against it, so I'm keeping quiet.
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Old 2013-04-04, 00:59   Link #508
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I'd accept even a silly reason as a response, just sayin'.

Though I might want to add more normal moves later.
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Old 2013-04-09, 02:51   Link #509
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I posted a theoretical match-up between Graphite Edge and the third Chrome Disaster, who is known to be a dual-wielder here on FFNet.

In that story, I think I neglected to put down the third CD's level, but his strength was equal to, if not more than that of the Level 8 Kings then.

It is an AU anyway, and apart from including Klein Samurai, Lemon Persona did nothing except make a brief appearance.
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Old 2013-04-09, 05:17   Link #510
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I posted a theoretical match-up between Graphite Edge and the third Chrome Disaster, who is known to be a dual-wielder here on FFNet.

In that story, I think I neglected to put down the third CD's level, but his strength was equal to, if not more than that of the Level 8 Kings then.

It is an AU anyway, and apart from including Klein Samurai, Lemon Persona did nothing except make a brief appearance.
Awesome, I'll see about reading it this morning, and I'll try to post a review/proofreading this evening.
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Old 2013-04-09, 15:02   Link #511
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How the hell are Crow and Roller present for a battle between the Level 8 Kings and the third Chrome Disaster?

I feel the need to have that question answered before anything else, if only because you left me so damn confused as to whether it was all just a recording, or if there was some huge plot twist in the future about Level Downs and Cloned Disasters, or some stranger thing was happening.
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Old 2013-04-09, 15:06   Link #512
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Now that you mentioned it...canon has no explanations to when Roller became a Burst Linker.

Anyway, I played around with the timeline; Crow's development and stuff are all shifted forward about 2-3 years, because the Kings alone cannot fight the Disaster. It's basically anime timeline brought forward, to the time of the third Disaster and when the Kings are Level 8.
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Old 2013-04-09, 15:48   Link #513
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Now that you mentioned it...canon has no explanations to when Roller became a Burst Linker.
Takumu was Accelerated for one year before the story began, and attained Level 4 some significant stretch of time before the first episode.

Silver Crow attained Level 2 within two weeks, though this is probably unusually fast.

Ash Roller attained Level 2 within the first episode, after defeating Silver Crow in Haruyuki's first battle.

I conjecture that Roller has been around for no more than a few months by Episode 1.

But the FOURTH Chrome Disaster was retired two or three YEARS ago; long before Cyan Pile, let alone Crow or Roller.

More to the point, Cyan Pile, Silver Crow and Ash Roller have NEVER existed before the time of the "Level 9 Kings".


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Anyway, I played around with the timeline; Crow's development and stuff are all shifted forward about 2-3 years, because the Kings alone cannot fight the Disaster. It's basically anime timeline brought forward, to the time of the third Disaster and when the Kings are Level 8.
Then you'd better make that VERY clear, somehow.

And you'd better be prepared to answer questions of "How the hell did KYH meet Haruyuki if she never left home" and other questions stemming from this "Despite A Nail" paradox.
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Old 2013-04-09, 17:10   Link #514
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Any more edits?

Relax, Gold. I'm not following up with a continuation any time soon, there's more than enough time to think about it. Though I do hope to infuse more logic than the OP plotline of SAO.

In any case, what is definite is that I will break from the original storyline from the time of the first CD. By the 3rd CD a lot of events have already happened so it's understandable that you're confused.

If nothing else, only a few important events will be carried over, and that includes stuff like the failed palace invasion, Rider's death, and a few others that are going into bad spoiler territory so I won't say more.
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Old 2013-04-17, 08:25   Link #515
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While I still have energy tonight:

As far as it has been observed, Black and colourless avatars are grouped under "Colourless", that is, they belong to neither the chromatic circle nor the metal colour chart.

On this note, I happened to think about the properties of an ice cube.

An avatar with ice armour would share similar properties to precious metal avatars: resistance to poison, cutting, blunt attacks, corrosion, electricity. Ice is arguably less resistant, however, to heat and piercing, ice will melt when enough heat is applied, and piercing a la LCS definitely will crack any ice surface.

Ice is also heavy; its density is just a little lower than pure water, and pure water alone is heavy enough. I wonder what is the strength to weight ratio of ice, though.

Above all, ice is cold - it is unpleasant on first contact, and disables and is even deadly to bare biological matter upon prolonged contact. If an opponent was trapped by an ice avatar longer than a few minutes, I daresay escape is nigh-impossible.

Frost Horn might have similar attacks, but he is built around freezing the environment, then using it to his advantage. A purely ice avatar would leverage on the properties of ice to attack and defend.

Moving on, I believe there is a reason why the author has never used gems/precious stones in his work, while fans were quick to use them in avatar designing competitions; gems would have additional properties based on their material.

Tourmaline Shell's name in kanji can be translated as "Electric Gem", and this property rendered him immune to freezing attacks. This is one hint that gemstones have additional passive/active properties chromatic and metal avatars do not share; it is just as specialised as metal colours.

Besides a possible immunity to light-based attacks, I speculate on the last thing for today: that gems must be polished. Ores containing the gem are rough and far from beautiful; it takes a master crafter to cut and polish the ore into sparkling gems.

I venture that an avatar based on a gem face a prerequisite or condition to unlock the full potential of their avatar.
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Old 2013-04-18, 18:39   Link #516
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As far as it has been observed, Black and colourless avatars are grouped under "Colourless", that is, they belong to neither the chromatic circle nor the metal colour chart.
Partial conjecture.

Given our limited understanding of the significance of the Black/White scale, we cannot say that Black does not belong to the chromatic wheel.

I also cannot follow you on the matter of gemstones. On the one hand, you say the author has never used them, and then you point out Tourmaline Shell, whose color is named after a gemstone.

Are you suggesting that a third color spectrum exists for gemstones? Because in the absence of such a chart, I would assume that Tourmaline and Ruby are simply shades of Blue and Red.

Otherwise we might look at the existence of Blood and conjecture that a chart of fluid colors exist, with others like Tears, Urine or Pus.

Chocolate Puppeteer is presumbly just a Brown (Near-Black Orangish?) avatar, rather than someone belonging to a food chart.


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Tourmaline Shell's name in kanji can be translated as "Electric Gem", and this property rendered him immune to freezing attacks.
I don't see how electrical generation lends to immunity to freezing, unless his generators produce a lot of waste heat or the electricity itself is hot enough once produced to ward off the cold and vaporize the water.

I think that Metallic avatars are not unique in having special vulnerabilities and resistances to certain kinds of damage. I think what makes them unique in that regard is that they very definitely have such strengths and weaknesses, and that their bodies don't need to be built weird.

For example, a Red avatar with laser-based guns may be extremely vulnerable to heat and fire, because his weapons are already prone to overheating. Extreme ambient temperatures might cause his weapons to overheat faster and sustain damage from less use.

Another Red avatar who uses missiles might be vulnerable to flaming or electrical attacks that could cause those missiles to explode.

If Chocolate Puppeteer's body really is made of chocolate, it would be weak against... well, basically EVERYTHING.
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Old 2013-05-03, 10:37   Link #517
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Because this is reviewing fanfiction, and this is the fanfiction thread.

Here is a review by me of one of the fanfiction on FFN. The review will be updated in time to include chapters 8-16. This Google Doc can be commented on.

Disclaimer: I hold no responsibilities for the comments made on the review. Neither are the comments representative of my official stand on the fanfic work, which I will make and justify at the end of the review.

Edit: Chapters 8 and 9 reviewed.
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Old 2013-05-04, 13:29   Link #518
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It's possible that people can still be born mute, in the setting of Accel World. Or else have their voice crippled by disease or injury, as in the case of the throat cancer that afflicted Chiyuri's father.

A child without a voice would be given a Neuro-Linker to communicate, allowing them to text and e-mail, or make phone-calls with their thought-voice.

Someone like this might generate a Duel Avatar built around the wish for a voice. A sonic weapon, and perhaps a disorienting or charming siren song.


Someone born blind... well, would probably just have their eyes replaced with cameras, or have the faulty parts of their brain or connected synapses replaced. This is liable to work much better at replicating human vision than Fuuko's legs can mimic human legs.
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Old 2013-05-22, 15:44   Link #519
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EBONY SALAMANDER

Color: A greenish blue so dark it looks black. (#0C0B1D, RGB: 11, 22, 29)

Spoiler for What's in the name?:


The Ebony Salamander avatar is essentially a grappler, specialized for "close-range, direct damage" combat. Therefore, despite being on the smaller side of average height, it is heavily muscled and clad in tough armor. Its powerful musculature gives its slender frame great speed and agility. Its armor is only average compared to Bluish types, to prevent getting weighed down, but that's still plenty tough compared to all most others.

Salamander's basic weapons are the taloned gauntlets worn over his strong hands, as well as his powerful fanged jaws. Because of his unimpressive size and leverage, technique is required to make the most of his holds and strikes when he is faced with larger opponents.

Salamander has a limited activation skill called Fire Birth, which consumes Special Meter in order to superheat his entire body, sheathing him in flames. This naturally serves as a form of self-defense against grapples while also making his own holds and strikes more dangerous. Necessarily, Salamander has a greater-than-normal resistance against heat and flame, which increases when using Fire Birth.

His special attack is Flame Sigh, the same ability once possessed by Magnessium Drake. It is simply a middle-ranged flamethrower projected from the mouth. This requires and consumes at least half of a full Special Meter, or possibly a completely full special meter.


Level up bonuses can be spent on stronger striking or grappling attacks, strengthening his armor, improving his Fire Birth ability, or upgrading his Flame Sigh attack.
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Old 2013-05-23, 06:22   Link #520
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Doesn't that belong to the fanfic thread? Continuing my reply there.
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