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Old 2013-04-12, 03:42   Link #261
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To be honest, I was bored to the point of distraction for most of the first episode. I went into the series with high expectations (Sunrise + Mecha = Win) so I was disappointed by the clumsy attempt at illiciting an emotional response from the audience. It just didn't work for me.

And yes, I know the first episode of any mecha series is probably going to feature the main character somehow being forced/coerced/tricked into piloting the giant suit that he has no interest in piloting. That's par for the course. I've just never been able to buy into shallow tricks like these. You can tell me all you want that I'm supposed to care about a character who has ~10 minutes screen time, but it's just not going to happen.

What I did like was the methodical actions of the silver-haired antagonist. The way he handled the protagonist was marvelous.
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Old 2013-04-12, 03:56   Link #262
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just when I thought, there will be another asami seto chara for this season

first episode didn't disappoint in term of quality, and it doesn't have bland feeling of Sacred 7 as well
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Old 2013-04-12, 04:10   Link #263
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Oh so that's how one gets popular on those social networking sites

RIP Shoko, judging by the OP they already had plans to make someone else the main female character.
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Old 2013-04-12, 04:16   Link #264
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To be honest, I really don't think Shoko survived that.

Everything melted from that laser blast.

The odds of surviving that doesn't look good.

I don't think people want to see melted, dripping, flesh juice that was once Shoko on the hot pavement sizzling.

(A little graphic description, but you get the idea)

She's no CC and can't regenerate herself.

I understand why people wanted her to live, but I think she served her purpose and her death will toughen Haruto up so he can take action instead of sitting back and not trying to win.

Shoko did give him a lecture about that earlier.

Plus, the death flag was that near confession at the shrine.

Sunrise doesn't care about being conventional and that's the way I like it.

Now we have a vampire-mecha lead who looks like Setsuna while L-Elf looks like a white haired Lelouch.

On a side note, Saki is gonna be amazing! She's even being voiced by Haruka Tomatsu.

(Asuna/Nagi/Anaru)

Yeah, I'll take that.
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Old 2013-04-12, 04:38   Link #265
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I understand why people wanted her to live, but I think she served her purpose and her death will toughen Haruto up so he can take action instead of sitting back and not trying to win.
But where's the melodrama in that? Just think: when the hero is about to finally get over the death of her (almost) girlfriend and move on with another girl, bam! said almost-girlfriend appears out of nowhere as an enemy vampire-cyborg-mecha!

(Just remember, I called it!)

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And yes, I know the first episode of any mecha series is probably going to feature the main character somehow being forced/coerced/tricked into piloting the giant suit that he has no interest in piloting.
Oh, but he really wanted to pilot this mecha. I had to laugh when he was in the cockpit, randomly pushing buttons, pretty much going "move dammit, you're a mecha, I'm supposed to have my roaring rampage of revenge now!"
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Old 2013-04-12, 04:41   Link #266
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RIP Shoko, judging by the OP they already had plans to make someone else the main female character.
There won't be kimi wa dare to kisu wo suru. Saki will win by default.
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Old 2013-04-12, 04:42   Link #267
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But where's the melodrama in that? Just think: when the hero is about to finally get over the death of her (almost) girlfriend and move on with another girl, bam! said almost-girlfriend appears out of nowhere as an enemy vampire-cyborg-mecha!

(Just remember, I called it!)
Knowing Sunrise, they would do something like that. lol

Spoiler for Code Geass:


We'll look back on this when/if it happens and laugh.

(Page 14 in the Valvrave Forums)
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Old 2013-04-12, 04:46   Link #268
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But where's the melodrama in that? Just think: when the hero is about to finally get over the death of her (almost) girlfriend and move on with another girl, bam! said almost-girlfriend appears out of nowhere as an enemy vampire-cyborg-mecha!

(Just remember, I called it!)
I totally get the same feeling. Something like that will happen or something very similar.
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Old 2013-04-12, 04:50   Link #269
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Well I was just checking that scene with Shoko frame by frame and...
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looks like she got vaporized before that car did.
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Old 2013-04-12, 05:04   Link #270
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RIP Shoko, judging by the OP they already had plans to make someone else the main female character.
Actually the fact that she's portrayed with Saki in the OP instead of as some angelic/symbolic image makes it look less like she's gone for real.


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Everything melted from that laser blast.
Not that we see this at all. We just see a bare, scorched area after the fact. It's not like they had the time to conduct a search.

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The odds of surviving that doesn't look good.
The odds of surving that are far better than other odds we've seen in anime.

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I don't think people want to see melted, dripping, flesh juice that was once Shoko on the hot pavement sizzling.

(A little graphic description, but you get the idea)
They didn't have to show this to convey that she's dead.

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She's no CC and can't regenerate herself.
People didn't know she was an Immortal Witch when she took a headshot from a pistol in episode one. Then a couple episodes later, HELLO!
Not that I'm saying Shouko has some special abilities we don't know about (although for all we know, she does, or she'll get some from some lab guys at some point), but my point is that people couldn't have known C2 was really coming back then either.

And as playmaker2k pointed out, Nunnally.

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Plus, the death flag was that near confession at the shrine.
Or that was a fake death flag to make us think she's really gone. I know we've seen it before and recently, but I can't remember where.
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Old 2013-04-12, 05:04   Link #271
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I am more incline to believe he go blasted along with the car and survive

no body, no death.

anyway space vampire/zombie is kinda fresh idea
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Old 2013-04-12, 05:13   Link #272
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shinji,

See the proof from The Ero King's images.

I went back to that scene and she got blindsided by that luminescence. There was no way of escaping that.

Like Ero King wrote earlier, she was vaporized before the car.

I understand where you're coming from. It's okay, it'll take some time to heal.

Spoiler for code geass:
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Old 2013-04-12, 05:21   Link #273
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OK, They just sank my OTP in the first episode I agree that this definitely screamed Gundam seed but still enjoyed the episode! And THAT ending! Who would've thought they would pull that!
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Old 2013-04-12, 05:23   Link #274
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they only time girl ever die in mecha robot and never show the body is when they are inside mecha/spaceship
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Old 2013-04-12, 05:31   Link #275
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looks like she got vaporized before that car did.
unless they pay attention to minor details like Gundam 00 style (MSV cameos & Innovades standing in a group of ordinary people, etc.) as opposed to SEED's "i managed to survive explosions & losing my space suit while drifting in the vacuum of space & shoot lazers from the 4th dimension meme"
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Old 2013-04-12, 05:33   Link #276
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Hopefully Sunrise is done with that trend and we get to see something different here
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Old 2013-04-12, 05:35   Link #277
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shinji,

See the proof from The Ero King's images.

I went back to that scene and she got blindsided by that luminescence. There was no way of escaping that.

Like Ero King wrote earlier, she was vaporized before the car.

I understand where you're coming from. It's okay, it'll take some time to heal.

Spoiler for code geass:
Except in Ero King's screenshots, you can still see Shouko in the second screenshot. In the episode, you can see her all the way until the explosion expands above her height, thus blocking her from view but not meaning it killed her.

If she's dead, she's dead. But I think there are a good number of indicators that suggest she's not, both in-series and out-of-series. (refer back to my list of indicators on the previous page of the thread) And we've only seen many, many times when supposedly a character can't survive something but does.

Plus, considering we've got a guy who got stabbed all the way through the heart and shot twice in the chest at close range, and survived because he was made into what appears to be a vampire, dying may not keep Shouko dead anyway.

And I don't think you meant it to be, but that last part there about healing and denial came off a bit insulting. It's about reason for doubt, as I listed earlier.
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Old 2013-04-12, 05:40   Link #278
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Don't take offense on what I said about that.

It wasn't meant that way, this is just a nice debate for Shouko's welfare.

Anything's possible with Sunrise.

They've done it before, but it would be nice if they actually pulled the plug for a change and not look back.

On a different note, I want to see more Saki.
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Old 2013-04-12, 05:52   Link #279
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Well most of the comments are going to back and forth regarding that till next week so better to just chill and talk about the other aspects of the show.
For example this scene,

couldn't help but lol
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Old 2013-04-12, 05:55   Link #280
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^ why it isn't moving! that's blasphemy, .gif is a must for that scene
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