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Old 2013-04-13, 18:41   Link #5061
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Yeah that must be it.......

Just researched the Black Prince but I'm a bit hesitant about actually buying it as stat wise it doesn't look to be any better than the churchill VII with the only notable improvement being a slightly better final gun.

Also researched the comet recently too but its a similar story with it.
The Black Prince has a 20 pounder, better armor, AND better acceleration due to its final engine. It's not nimble, but hey it's a Churchill, it's not supposed to be.

As for the Comet, I HATED it at start, and at one point had a 33% win rate on it (now sitting at a comfortable 53%-ish). You're undergunned even with the final gun, and your armor is paper-thin for the tier and unsloped. However you're very agile (not quite like the Cromwell, but still enough to run circles around heavies in a pinch), and you have excellent gun depression, so use those slopes and those hills!
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Old 2013-04-13, 19:05   Link #5062
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SU100 - Desert Storm

Probably the best company game [MUP] has had thus far. Splitting up into three groups, we advanced while simultaneously defending the base against a numerically and technically superior force. The Hellcats, as can be seen, served dynamically in both a scouting and base defense role.

Spoiler for what things looked like at the moment of victory:
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Old 2013-04-13, 19:53   Link #5063
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TBH we won because leo and sera manage to defend the base from 6 1S before the hellcats reinforcement come
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Old 2013-04-13, 19:59   Link #5064
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And I was using the StuH 42 configuration.
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Old 2013-04-13, 20:33   Link #5065
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The Black Prince has a 20 pounder, better armor, AND better acceleration due to its final engine. It's not nimble, but hey it's a Churchill, it's not supposed to be.

As for the Comet, I HATED it at start, and at one point had a 33% win rate on it (now sitting at a comfortable 53%-ish). You're undergunned even with the final gun, and your armor is paper-thin for the tier and unsloped. However you're very agile (not quite like the Cromwell, but still enough to run circles around heavies in a pinch), and you have excellent gun depression, so use those slopes and those hills!
According to the stats on the WoT tankapedia its only got a 17 pounder thats just a little better than the churchill VII's 77mm and the armour value is almost exactly the same as the churchill VII's (front-152 sides-95 rear-50 vs front-152 sides-95 rear-25)

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Old 2013-04-13, 20:58   Link #5066
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Whoops, I must have mixed it up with the 20-pounder that the Caernavon gets. Still, the 17-pounder is okay for its tier, as its accurate and has a good rate of fire. The penetration is lacking though, admittedly.
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Old 2013-04-13, 22:02   Link #5067
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Hey, Tak, you going to post the June 4 screenshot sometime?
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Old 2013-04-13, 22:08   Link #5068
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Hey, Tak, you going to post the June 4 screenshot sometime?
I hope he will, mine are of really crappy resolution and quality.
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Old 2013-04-13, 22:12   Link #5069
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He was also in the actual camera position...
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Old 2013-04-13, 22:12   Link #5070
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SU100 - Desert Storm

Probably the best company game [MUP] has had thus far. Splitting up into three groups, we advanced while simultaneously defending the base against a numerically and technically superior force. The Hellcats, as can be seen, served dynamically in both a scouting and base defense role.

Spoiler for what things looked like at the moment of victory:
while they might have been numerically and technically superior, they were statistically inferior in win rate and probably skill as well.

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According to the stats on the WoT tankapedia its only got a 17 pounder thats just a little better than the churchill VII's 77mm and the armour value is almost exactly the same as the churchill VII's (front-152 sides-95 rear-50 vs front-152 sides-95 rear-25)

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the 17pdr have much more pen, and while the listed armor of Black Prince not much better than Churchill VII, the actual armor is much better, Churchill VII only have 152mm armor in a small part of the front while Black Prince have 152mm all over the front.
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Old 2013-04-14, 01:18   Link #5071
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I hope Tak doesn't decide to post it on June 4th.

also that tank company was all me, JK, although idk why ppl worry so much when i'm playin the hellcat or michael jackson tank that can't moon walk.

i'm not at 54% WR for nothing.

I was dying when leo said we need more players like me, if that happened I think every would have been unicum before i even started playin WoT.
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Old 2013-04-14, 01:34   Link #5072
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I hope Tak doesn't decide to post it on June 4th.
I'm more worried that he didn't get the right angle.

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also that tank company was all me, JK, although idk why ppl worry so much when i'm playin the hellcat or michael jackson tank that can't moon walk.

i'm not at 54% WR for nothing.
I think that you have really good fine control over your tank. I have lost a lot of battles because of very small, fast-paced tactical errors. It's frustrating.

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I was dying when leo said we need more players like me, if that happened I think every would have been unicum before i even started playin WoT.
Part of my motivation was to draw attention away from the fact that we had lost almost every single battle since we started about two hours earlier. The commander must not only command but keep morale high.

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while they might have been numerically and technically superior, they were statistically inferior in win rate and probably skill as well.
Sshh! You'll make our victory look too easy!

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TBH we won because leo and sera manage to defend the base from 6 1S before the hellcats reinforcement come
The hellcats were very important. They each got 1 kill and thus saved both of us and the base.
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Old 2013-04-14, 01:36   Link #5073
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Hmmm.... Tier 6? Maybe I should try to keep a permanent tank for that.
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Old 2013-04-14, 01:41   Link #5074
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Hmmm.... Tier 6? Maybe I should try to keep a permanent tank for that.
Do get one. We were chronically understaffed.

Tier 5 can work too.
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Old 2013-04-14, 01:42   Link #5075
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StuG III, T-25, VK 36.01 (H), VK 30.01 (P).


Take your pick. Former two are always on standby, latter two I can buy.
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Old 2013-04-14, 01:54   Link #5076
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Hey, Tak, you going to post the June 4 screenshot sometime?
so what sreenshot you took in my birthday?

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StuG III, T-25, VK 36.01 (H), VK 30.01 (P).


Take your pick. Former two are always on standby, latter two I can buy.
buy VK 36.01, it one of the best t6 tank.

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Old 2013-04-14, 01:55   Link #5077
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VK3601H seems to work well; they have tough armor that requires even a KV1S to waste time aiming for weak points.

If you don't have/ don't want to spend the cash, the StuG is a good choice as a cheap defense vehicle. T-25 will get eaten by almost anything.

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so what sreenshot you took in my birthday?
Know this picture?
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Old 2013-04-14, 02:20   Link #5078
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I have the cash, it's just that I'll have to buy a garage slot (which I hate doing). Maybe I'll just stick with the StuG III/StuH 42 or T-25.
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Old 2013-04-14, 02:29   Link #5079
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Also, remember to get ventrilo so you can hear directives.
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Old 2013-04-14, 02:40   Link #5080
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E-100 researched! Now all I need is the money to buy it..

That said, I think I'm down like 5-6 net games over the last 2 days. Statistically .. it's impossible for so many of the nublets to be on my team.. they should be evenly distributed .. right?
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