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Old 2013-04-15, 15:40   Link #61
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I was referencing the most recent incident, but yes. There's nothing Luffy can do, so Oda uses these super characters as natural disasters that can only be avoided...unless Oda's going to actually have an Admiral fall (which I would be fine with).



Honestly, something needs to happen soon. DoFlamingo's fall is big (and he should fall this arc), but if this is really beyond the half-way point of the series, then Oda needs to step up his game. An Admiral or a Yonkou have to fall in the next 100 chapters, and since a Yonkou fell last time (Whitebeard), it's time for an Admiral to lose. Also, Luffy is going to have to learn how to stand on his own again (in many respects, the Lucci fight was the last time Luffy actually fought by himself with just his own powers against a potentially superior foe). I'm not saying Luffy has to take down an Admiral or Yonkou by himself anytime soon (that's way too much), but for the story to progress someone is going to have to do something to all of these supremely powerful characters that Oda seems to just be adding to...

That being said, since this arc is escalating, who else thinks a Revolutionist or possibly even Kaidou himself might pop up as well for the eventual free-for-all? Lots of people know about what's going down on Dressrosa, so I wouldn't be surprised by any additional faces (especially after Burgess appeared out of the blue).
is luffy even strong enough to even fight against an admiral or a yonkou yet? or will he just get beaten up right away?
i doubt oda will do another time skip so the crew and level up again... this means luffy and his crew has the powers to go against the top players in the OP world right now... unless something happens like the Enies Lobby arc where everyone comes up with new moves/techniques again...
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Old 2013-04-15, 16:32   Link #62
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They haven't even gotten into any real trouble in terms of fighting yet. They only scratched the surface of what they can really do. Not saying they're at a yonkou level yet. But if you ask me, then while Luffy will probably not yet easily defeat an Admiral in single combat, they'll probably give him a run for his money. I mean, it can't become Sabaody V2 so short after the timeskip.
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Old 2013-04-15, 18:20   Link #63
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Needless to say, I find it highly unlikely that an admiral will fall at this current time (ESPECIALLY in the case of the new ones). I may sorta kinda agree with James if the admiral(s) in question were the ones from before the skip, but even then that would leave only Kizaru (Aokiji's no longer a marine, and no way in hell Akainu going to be toppled anytime soon now that he's an FA).



But yes, I believe it's clear at this point that this will be the arc where Dofla will fall. After this, my guess is that Luffy and co. will be gunning for one of the yonkou (and out of them, I'd say it's most likely Kaidou, since even the current Caribou story ties in with that particular emperor). HOWEVER, I also expect Luffy to ally himself with more powerful NW pirates before he actually faces the emperor(s) in question. Because while I do agree that the stakes should be much higher in the series' second half, I'd still find it pretty BS if Luffy were capable of toppling the biggest world powers solo.....
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Old 2013-04-15, 18:37   Link #64
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Needless to say, I find it highly unlikely that an admiral will fall at this current time (ESPECIALLY in the case of the new ones). I may sorta kinda agree with James if the admiral(s) in question were the ones from before the skip, but even then that would leave only Kizaru (Aokiji's no longer a marine, and no way in hell Akainu going to be toppled anytime soon now that he's an FA).



But yes, I believe it's clear at this point that this will be the arc where Dofla will fall. After this, my guess is that Luffy and co. will be gunning for one of the yonkou (and out of them, I'd say it's most likely Kaidou, since even the current Caribou story ties in with that particular emperor). HOWEVER, I also expect Luffy to ally himself with more powerful NW pirates before he actually faces the emperor(s) in question. Because while I do agree that the stakes should be much higher in the series' second half, I'd still find it pretty BS if Luffy were capable of toppling the biggest world powers solo.....
but eventually luffy will have to fight an admiral or a yonkou and win... what I don't understand is how he will get to that point without another time skip to level up... because clearly right now he is no where near their level
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Old 2013-04-15, 19:33   Link #65
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^I just mentioned a way for him to face those opponents in my post, though. He wouldn't be facing the yonkou/admirals alone, but with the help of powerful allies. IMO, that's the most plausible way for him to topple the world powers without making it seem cheap in the process.
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Old 2013-04-15, 20:06   Link #66
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^I just mentioned a way for him to face those opponents in my post, though. He wouldn't be facing the yonkou/admirals alone, but with the help of powerful allies. IMO, that's the most plausible way for him to topple the world powers without making it seem cheap in the process.
I don't think it will be like that though... usually it's Luffy 1v1 against someone else... it has always been like that throughout the entire series
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Old 2013-04-15, 21:14   Link #67
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Maybe it's just me, but I haven't been this psyched after reading a new chapter since the timeskip.
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Old 2013-04-15, 22:08   Link #68
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but eventually luffy will have to fight an admiral or a yonkou and win... what I don't understand is how he will get to that point without another time skip to level up... because clearly right now he is no where near their level
We don't know what level he is at right now , the same can be said for all the other SH .
None of them had any fights so far where they even had to try .
Plus they going to improve after righting stronger guy just like in the first half .

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^I just mentioned a way for him to face those opponents in my post, though. He wouldn't be facing the yonkou/admirals alone, but with the help of powerful allies. IMO, that's the most plausible way for him to topple the world powers without making it seem cheap in the process.
He has to be able to beat a Yonkou captain or admiral in a 1 vs 1 in time .
The question is who going to be the first one and how long it going to take .
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Old 2013-04-15, 22:23   Link #69
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He has to be able to beat a Yonkou captain or admiral in a 1 vs 1 in time .
The question is who going to be the first one and how long it going to take .

Honestly, the only plausible way I can see Luffy winning against an admiral/yonkou solo at this stage is if his opponent is already past their prime when he eventually confronts them. Pretty much like how he was able to take on Zephyr in Film Z, in other words. Otherwise, I still say a group assault is the way to go....
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Old 2013-04-15, 22:44   Link #70
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Honestly, the only plausible way I can see Luffy winning against an admiral/yonkou solo at this stage is if his opponent is already past their prime when he eventually confronts them. Pretty much like how he was able to take on Zephyr in Film Z, in other words. Otherwise, I still say a group assault is the way to go....
The question is how strong are the new admirals going to be i don't think people should judge them base on the past 3 ones .
I don't see him fighting a Yonkou captain or admiral any time soon but if he had to face one i put my money on a admiral first .
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And now to interrupt the current conversation to let you guys know that early spoilers are out, so come and get 'em!
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