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Old 2013-04-11, 07:35   Link #41
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Each episode is only 4 minutes, but OP and ED take 1/2 of time, wtf.
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Old 2013-04-11, 11:10   Link #42
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I agree. This would've worked better with a longer timespan. The only show that worked well with 2 minutes was Teekyu, and only because everything was happening at break-neck speed.

This show takes a while to expose its characters, and the first episode was already over before we even got t know our main characters (not counting the fact that their names are shown in the OP).
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Old 2013-04-11, 19:45   Link #43
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so short but so cute
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Old 2013-04-11, 23:34   Link #44
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man that's some crazy OP,almost gave me a headache with those quick flashes, (chunibyou lessons learned?) feels like they trying to hurry everything since the show's too short, and what's with those crabs and stevey?

then the show starts it was so laid back (disconnect much? or troll ) feels like tamayura or yama no susume, and well nothing happened really exceptfirst contact I guess.oh well >5 min show with OP/ED

anyway visuals are cool. Liked how they showed that bus turning the tight corner made me remember my days in Japan.
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Old 2013-04-12, 16:59   Link #45
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THINK CRABING!!!!


you know you do, LOL



da OP made my brain to Crab.
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Old 2013-04-12, 23:43   Link #46
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The first episode does feel like it's working in the vein of Tamayura with all of its (beautiful) establishing shots and relatively slow pace — the animators are trying to build up a picturesque locale with its own interesting little nooks and crannies. I especially loved the short shot of the bus turning a corner; it's basically superfluous in plot terms, but visually it feels very well-composed. I'm really hoping future episodes leave room for things like that.
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Old 2013-04-12, 23:46   Link #47
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I just wonder if it's better to watch 3min each time or to gather them all up and have a very nice 30min "episode" at the end of this season
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Old 2013-04-13, 11:04   Link #48
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I just wonder if it's better to watch 3min each time or to gather them all up and have a very nice 30min "episode" at the end of this season
I'm thinking the latter, if the show keeps this slow pace.
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Old 2013-04-16, 12:12   Link #49
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Kanakana's just the kind of character I can get behind. Or on top of. (Phrasing!) So the first day at school, the first time our main cast actually interacts with each other... and it's very pleasant. Kanaka's love of animal naming is quirky, and also adorable. I'd love to see what kind of name she gives to Saki. Or how the crabs factor into any of this at all.
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Old 2013-04-16, 13:54   Link #50
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So short! By the time I've started to relax into the episode, it's over!
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Old 2013-04-16, 16:50   Link #51
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^ That's pretty much what I was thinking.
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Old 2013-04-16, 18:19   Link #52
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I just wonder if it's better to watch 3min each time or to gather them all up and have a very nice 30min "episode" at the end of this season
That might just be the thing to do. So far, each "episode," at roughly two and of half minutes of actual animation, doesn't seem to have enough content to really be considered a stand-alone episode.

Don't get me wrong. I like it so far, but it's too darn short. The slow pace of the episodes is too slow for an anime that's only three and a half minutes long. Teekyu is a good example of how to do it (if you can keep up with the rapid-fire dialog). Boku no Imouto wa Osaka Okan is a better example at 30 seconds shorter per episode than Aiura, but with a lot more happening, and a thirty second ED that changes every episode.

But probably the best short anime that I've seen, in so far as actually telling an individual story every episode, is High Score at only three minutes per episode, including the same 30 second ED each time. Each episode of High Score tells a stand-alone story in two and a half minutes, no one episode being dependent on another episode to either understand or enjoy each episode. Granted, the series is not everyone's cup of tea, but, of course, neither is Aiura.

Each episode of Aiura is more like a two and a half minute clip you'd see on youtube, cut from a full, 24 minute episode.
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Old 2013-04-16, 18:45   Link #53
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I don't know it seems to be pain watching this if one is in fact trying to get some sort of overarching plot. But on further thought I don't mind it, it seems to be going for the subtle feel, and laid back atmosphere, where one meditates and drinks tea while contemplating the short happenings onscreen, like Ayukongo's predicament with the shoebox, Kanakana's unorthodox & over the top offered solution, and finally Iwasawa's logical solution, first doing it for her, then exchanging shoebox, which we (well at least I) have thought of from the very beginning. Now you can think also its relation to all & nothingness. Even the visual style adds to this. very Japanese, very Zen IMHO One can even thing deeper about Kanakana's animal naming sense, and why she thinks Ayuko doesn't have one at all , or how her bag's eye shift from left to right at times
side-note : not sure how they assign shoe-boxes & if the assigners knew Ayuko's height, but that almost felt like bullying for a bit ehehehe....

This of course will be ruined if its all collected together since the viewer wont be able to meditate on those things. and would be focused more (and flooded)with expositions, and "plot".
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Old 2013-04-16, 18:57   Link #54
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Start Aiura and have some tea

And I ran out of Aiura
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Old 2013-04-16, 19:10   Link #55
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This of course will be ruined if its all collected together since the viewer wont be able to meditate on those things. and would be focused more (and flooded)with expositions, and "plot".
I doubt it would ruin anything, there wouldn't be much of a flood (more like a slow trickle), and, what plot?

I suppose one of my problems is that the OP is so very energetic (and annoying), that it contrast wildly from the episode itself, which is only slightly twice as long as the OP. Too much OP and not enough show.

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Start Aiura and have some tea

And I ran out of Aiura
Oops, dropped my teaspoon.

Put tea cup down.

Bend over, pick up teaspoon.

Back up, put down teaspoon.

Pick up teacup.

Back to the episode.

Oops, missed 1/4 of episode.
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Old 2013-04-16, 20:06   Link #56
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I doubt it would ruin anything, there wouldn't be much of a flood (more like a slow trickle), and, what plot?
exactly my point, there is no plot as far as we can see at the moment, hence the quotation marks. But putting them all together would lessen the focus on each small things presented, it will be a mish-mash of nothings with no plot to tie them up and no time in between, and thus no chance to reflect on those small things.

as I said , Zen, where you meditate for hours and hours on end on a single pebble

oh and funny...don't drink tea while watching (though you can if you're not clumsy), but while on contemplation mode...
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Old 2013-04-16, 23:35   Link #57
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I don't have an issue with the length. In fact, I might prefer it this way, because it allows the animators to put as much effort into the visuals as possible. And behold, the backgrounds are beautifully colored, and the animation is awesome to look at.

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We wouldn't get something like this if the episodes were 23 minutes long.

Aiura is enjoyable and cute. In just four minutes, it manages to achieve what some slice-of-life anime (see: Tamako Market) cannot do with 24 minutes. And that's more than enough.
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Old 2013-04-17, 07:00   Link #58
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I don't have an issue with the length. In fact, I might prefer it this way, because it allows the animators to put as much effort into the visuals as possible. And behold, the backgrounds are beautifully colored, and the animation is awesome to look at.

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We wouldn't get something like this if the episodes were 23 minutes long.

Aiura is enjoyable and cute. In just four minutes, it manages to achieve what some slice-of-life anime (see: Tamako Market) cannot do with 24 minutes. And that's more than enough.
I couldn't disagree with you more. As cute as those little animation sequences may be, they pale in comparison to some of the extraordinarily elaborate animation sequences in other, full-length, 24-minute anime episodes. In the first episode of Hyouka, for instance, there are probably more than two minutes of exceptional individual animation sequences, the flowing hair and flowering sequence being a prime example. It's a marvel of beautiful, extravagant animation, and lasts about thirty seconds. Even the sequence where what's-his-name walks into the club room and first meets Chitanda, again about thirty seconds long, is a better example of exceptional animation than any of your examples.

Same goes with the backgrounds. Many anime series have extraordinarily beautiful background art. The art and animation in Aiura is nice, but it's nothing exceptional.

I also disagree with your snub about Tamako Market.
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Old 2013-04-17, 11:23   Link #59
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I couldn't disagree with you more. As cute as those little animation sequences may be, they pale in comparison to some of the extraordinarily elaborate animation sequences in other, full-length, 24-minute anime episodes. In the first episode of Hyouka, for instance, there are probably more than two minutes of exceptional individual animation sequences, the flowing hair and flowering sequence being a prime example. It's a marvel of beautiful, extravagant animation, and lasts about thirty seconds. Even the sequence where what's-his-name walks into the club room and first meets Chitanda, again about thirty seconds long, is a better example of exceptional animation than any of your examples.

Same goes with the backgrounds. Many anime series have extraordinarily beautiful background art. The art and animation in Aiura is nice, but it's nothing exceptional.
You really shouldn't have picked a KyoAni show for your example. Most anime studios cannot afford the time and money to animate as beautifully and consistently as KyoAni does. And even so, I think Hyouka has exceptionally good visuals even by KyoAni's standards. Hyouka is one of my top favorite 2012 anime, by the way.

Yes, there are countless full-length episode anime that are better animated than Aiura. One example would be Kamichu. But do you really think that this anime could maintain this level of quality animation if the episodes were 24 minutes long and aired weekly? I doubt it.

Then again, if you would rather sacrifice animation quality for cohesiveness between episodes and a more satisfying feeling at the ending of each episode, I can understand your argument. We really haven't gotten any further than the character introductions. There's hardly even any slice-of-life so far. I personally don't have a big issue with this right now, but I can sympathize with anyone who does. I made my first post to highlight the positives that I believe the short episode length has brought us.
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Given how "Shorts" has become a new trend in anime, I decided to give this charming, little number a try.

Unfortunately, "little" is the operative word here.

You have 4 minutes of content a week, and you spend 1/4 of that on your OP?!


I like the OP, but this means you have 3 minutes (minus a bit for the ED) per episode. That's... barely anything at all. That's a scene or two. By the time I'm into the show, it's over!

I suppose that by the time the anime is complete, you might have a full season that measures up to an episode of K-On!


It's a shame, because I could see this anime being very appealing to me if it was just a bit longer. Half-a-normal anime episode length could easily work for me. Even chopping out that OP could make a difference.
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