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Old 2013-04-20, 20:02   Link #3261
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I wonder how much History in the Raildex universe has diverged from our own.
I mention this because in my fanfic I have mentioned WWII before and plan to mention it again soon but when you factor in magic WWII becomes such a different can of beans...
The first 2 world wars clearly happened because WWIII is called WWIII not WWI but the holocaust of WWII was effectively the purging of a religion and since magic is heavily tied to religion it seems that that would be a bad idea. Things like Kabballah have been shown to be integral to the magic of the world and Golems have been shown to clearly exist and Judaism is where they originally derive from. Even if only, perhaps, one in ten thousand is a magician at some level we're still talking about a lot of magicians to deal with and each one could do a hell of a lot of damage, especially with golems. Then you have the English who have a powerful magic organization on their side as well as the Russian Orthodox church later in the world against Germany who had no religious organization to back it and you've got what should be a very one sided war, not the bloodbath that it was.
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Old 2013-04-20, 20:10   Link #3262
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Well, if (I said IF) the Russian Government was the Soviet one, the Orthodoxs were pretty weak on influence.

As well, all events after 1947 (Aleister's supposed death) are imprecise. Stephanie fought a civil war in Costa Rica, but the last one in the original timeline was in 1948. If Index is set on the 21st century, Stephanie would be in the 80s.
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Old 2013-04-21, 00:50   Link #3263
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From what I can tell, overt historical divergence happened when Aleister did not die and lived on to set up Academy City.

Covert historical divergence happened much earlier, when magic was discovered, possibly predating the birth of Christ.

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I wonder what would constitute to a combo?
Yelshman: Burgers, chips and cola.
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Word of God/Answer in net movie: "If you can sing it, it's a combo"
Ayane: That's a stanza, not a combo!!
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Old 2013-04-21, 01:18   Link #3264
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Mmmm...

Magic medals:

Dedicatus medal: head: can analyze magic

Fortis medal: body: can conjure flame fists that mimic rider's movement and deal explosive punches.

Honos medal: body: gives access to the Aevolver Magnum. A gun whose bullets can be manipulated according to the user's willpower.

Salvare medal: body: legs: body gives access to two katanas that can be combiend into a naginata. On legs it serves to provide perfect balance and great running and jumping ability.

science medals:
Accelerator medal: head: gives great calculative ability and control over force on physical contact.

Meltdowner medal: body: gives access to meltdowner beam cannon.

Railgun medal: body: leg: allows control of electricity.

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Old 2013-04-21, 01:34   Link #3265
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I think each ESPER is a combo on their own. Like for Electromaster its:

DENGEKI
MIKOTO
PETANKO

Ge Ko Ta

Gekota GEKOTA

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Old 2013-04-21, 01:49   Link #3266
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Yeah... The only hard part about this is actually making the medals

Maybe divide the ideal into 3 parts: Id, Ego, Superego?

@meister: are your MotW's going to be unique to your rider? Or is he just battling delinquents, criminals and rogue espers/mages?

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Old 2013-04-21, 09:04   Link #3267
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From what I can tell, overt historical divergence happened when Aleister did not die and lived on to set up Academy City.

Covert historical divergence happened much earlier, when magic was discovered, possibly predating the birth of Christ.
How could it be convert when magic is so showy and powerful? I kinda feel lke there's some magical organization (like the illuminati) that covers use of magic on a wide scale using specialized spells or something.
... that could work actually...
dibs on the idea!
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Old 2013-04-21, 09:14   Link #3268
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How could it be convert when magic is so showy and powerful? I kinda feel lke there's some magical organization (like the illuminati) that covers use of magic on a wide scale using specialized spells or something.
... that could work actually...
dibs on the idea!
We don't really know how magicians were back in the day- Remember that not everyone that claims to be a magician, actually was one. Most of them were just con artists and fortune tellers.

And I thought Illuminati was all about Science and total against religion ?
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Old 2013-04-21, 09:23   Link #3269
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We don't really know how magicians were back in the day- Remember that not everyone that claims to be a magician, actually was one. Most of them were just con artists and fortune tellers.

And I thought Illuminati was all about Science and total against religion ?
I said like the illuminati in the whole secrecy thing, I'd share dibs with you if you could suggest a more fitting group.
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Old 2013-04-21, 09:26   Link #3270
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I said like the illuminati in the whole secrecy thing, I'd share dibs with you if you could suggest a more fitting group.
Why bother? Back then everything was the will of the Gods.

Then Christianity came along and killed all the Heathen, and said it was their God's will.

Everything that happened after that was the miracle of the Lord!
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Old 2013-04-21, 10:05   Link #3271
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At some point in time, the Illuminati split from the RCC, and now we have a Secret War on our hands. True story.
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Old 2013-04-21, 10:07   Link #3272
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Say meister, about you KRxTAMNI thing. Do you have MotW's or is he just gonna fight people?
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Old 2013-04-22, 08:45   Link #3273
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Say meister, about you KRxTAMNI thing. Do you have MotW's or is he just gonna fight people?
It will follow the format of Railgun, where its a day by day account of his life. There is a case to solve or an errand to run or exploration to do on most days.

There will be occasionally be a "MOTW" in that he battles "wayward experiments" as they appear. Most of the MOTWs will be Kiborgs, espers and normal people turned into cyborgs by affiliates of Kihara, or by Kihara himself. They would target artefacts or people of interest, which is why Tarou follows such potential targets with interest.

Also, before Tarou finds Steel Dragon, his battle theme is Heavy Metal Strikes Back
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Old 2013-04-22, 09:53   Link #3274
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Can't access the song. So your MotW's aren't popping up all the time? :-?
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Old 2013-04-22, 10:39   Link #3275
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Normally people wouldn't bat an eye at kid show but.....

I think Kids show in Academy tend to biases towards science side (Hell, I think the magical Girl show in the Canon are most likely going to be powered by power of science than magic).

Don't forget, Magic Side is Science side's enemy, so it is reasonable to believe that the Academy City start "teaching" children that science= good while magic = evil at a very young age (albeit subtle)

With this in mind, those show probably tend to be Science Versus Magic conflict. With the Heroes being powered by science while the monsters and villains powered by Magic.

If there is a Super Sentai Series, it is probably something along the line of Scientific Sentai.

The Kamen rider is also most likely to be technology based (555, Fourze) rather than magic (Kuuga, Wizard).
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Old 2013-04-22, 11:28   Link #3276
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Spoiler for OOO's in TAMNI:


rough draft of the badguys.
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Old 2013-04-22, 17:15   Link #3277
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Can't access the song. So your MotW's aren't popping up all the time? :-?
They technically are popping up all the time, but whether Tarou clashes with them or not is another matter. The Monster of the Arc tends to cause several Cases of the Week before Tarou finds out the truth and squashes them.

Like how Railgun S1 ran.

As for the song, its another Kamen Rider Girl song. I got the idea from Tarou's finishers. For example:

"Pilebunker - OVERLOAD!"/"HEAVY METAL STRIKE!!"
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Old 2013-04-22, 20:41   Link #3278
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I can't find myself seeing a rider kick in either name

yeah, still looking for that song.
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Old 2013-04-22, 23:01   Link #3279
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I can't find myself seeing a rider kick in either name

yeah, still looking for that song.
Tarou fights using Apps for unfamiliar attacks or Forges (items made using his Metal Control power). These Apps were pre-calculated by Tarou then downloaded into the Testament console he was born from. Steel then loads this App on demand, greatly increasing Tarou's combat efficiency.

Hence why Steel would call out things like "Double Magnum - App Load!" or "Chainsword - App Load!"

Finishers are called Overloads by preference. These are big and take longer to materialize, so Tainaka only uses them when he has a chance. "Pilebunker - OVERLOAD!!" is the Pilebunker App being loaded.

"HEAVY METAL STRIKE!!" is Tainaka's doing, calling out the attack as it hits. He doesn't at this point in time have a real flying "Rider Kick" because that's just breaking the rules of having only 1 power.


EDIT: I just realized this:

Tarou on his own = RIDER PUNCH (Pilebunker)
Tarou + Uiharu = FAIZ BLASTER (Railcannon)
Tarou + Kongou = Wind Please Very Nice KICK STRIKE SAIKYOOOOO (Aero Hand on Tarou)
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Old 2013-04-23, 05:53   Link #3280
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For some reason the last one brings a smile to my face

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