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Old 2013-04-16, 13:26   Link #4201
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Is there a skill/NP that is fatal to those with a low endurance rank?
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I think it only best works on people... on Servants, I'm not sure if they can withstand the effects via having high endurance ranking (B and above)
You asked for something that worked on those with low Endurance ranks. B is not low. Even Rider's Mystic Eyes only barely affected Archer, and his resistance was merely C rank.
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Old 2013-04-16, 13:33   Link #4202
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Thanks at least it I know it works...

By the way, doesn't Kanshou and Bakuya add magic resistance as well? Won't it stack with his magic resistance?
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Old 2013-04-16, 13:49   Link #4203
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thing about rider is she wasn't in full gorgon mode. If I recall correctly when she is in her monstrous form her abilities are amplified
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Old 2013-04-16, 14:19   Link #4204
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Thanks at least it I know it works...

By the way, doesn't Kanshou and Bakuya add magic resistance as well? Won't it stack with his magic resistance?
They do, but I'm not sure if that resistance is included in the rank or not
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Old 2013-04-16, 14:23   Link #4205
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thing about rider is she wasn't in full gorgon mode. If I recall correctly when she is in her monstrous form her abilities are amplified
Saddest thing, I had to rely on wikia....
Wikia told me that it was Mana power (Archer had B and Saber had A++, and both weren't frozen....)
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Old 2013-04-16, 20:21   Link #4206
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Archer was paralyzed and was petrified up to his waist in a few seconds when she revealed them, he was in no way unaffected. And Saber Alter was effected, since her stats took the rank down and she got slower. Check the scenes again, you can see Saber frowning as she takes the blindfold off.
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Old 2013-04-17, 12:13   Link #4207
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Archer was paralyzed and was petrified up to his waist in a few seconds when she revealed them, he was in no way unaffected. And Saber Alter was effected, since her stats took the rank down and she got slower. Check the scenes again, you can see Saber frowning as she takes the blindfold off.
Ah so it is magic resistance that helps survival... Casters have no resistance... Which means....
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Old 2013-04-20, 15:49   Link #4208
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Archer was paralyzed and was petrified up to his waist in a few seconds when she revealed them, he was in no way unaffected. And Saber Alter was effected, since her stats took the rank down and she got slower. Check the scenes again, you can see Saber frowning as she takes the blindfold off.
It's MGI not Magic Resistance that determines if it works. Anyone with MGI below rank B is petrified, anyone above rank B suffers a reduction in stats, and anyone with MGI rank B will be petrified if they're not careful.
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Old 2013-04-20, 20:06   Link #4209
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Simple question this time, which ending was it where Kirei showed up at Shirou's house and killed him after Shirou stupidly told Saber to leave them? I seem to remember Kirei saying something important in that scene I wanted to look back at but I can't find which one it is :/
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Old 2013-04-20, 22:15   Link #4210
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It isone of the Bad Ends in Fate when you decide to leave the church instead of going forward and ending in the room with the corpses.
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Old 2013-04-21, 01:53   Link #4211
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Ah, you're right that's the one, thanks for that (and if anyone was wondering turns out all Kotomine was talking about was the 4th grail war and his participation in it)
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Old 2013-04-21, 04:20   Link #4212
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... Wonder what special conditions are required for a C+ to exceed B.... Or A even...

Especially a D++ to exceed A (slightly) and miraculously snap God Hand...
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Old 2013-04-21, 08:29   Link #4213
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I suppose it's unique to each servant and master. A power-up spell? Maybe even a situation which reflects the hero's legend? Who knows.
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Old 2013-04-21, 11:15   Link #4214
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Well the power of the Servant depends on its own legend, the place he is figthing and the power of its Master. Really is almost random. Saber's power change a bit when her Master is Shirou, Rin or Kiritsugu, some of her powers go up and some go down. Even relatively weak Servants like True Assassin gain high ranks when they have a good Master.
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Old 2013-04-21, 11:19   Link #4215
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I believe bhl is referring to the "+" modifiers.
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Old 2013-04-21, 12:45   Link #4216
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Parameter Rule A set of rules for representing the rank of a particular status. They range from A~E. EX is in a league of its own, representing powerful to the extent of rendering comparisons meaningless. If we assign numbers to ranks, then E=10, with each subsequent rank increasing by +10. Ranks with “+” such as A+ and B+ can momentarily multiply its associated numerical value. For instance, C+(30) can temporarily boost its power to 60, exceeding Rank A (50). Also, “++” represents multiply by three times.

And B+ and A+ ranked skills and those like it (with '+') have the ability to momentarily double their numerical value. In other words, while B+ is no match for an A, momentarily it may exceed A.((B+'s 40x2=80 versus A's 50) B+とかA+というのは、この数値を瞬間的に倍化できる特殊能力の事を指す。 つまり、B+の能力は、通常はAには敵わないが、一瞬だけなら402で80、50のAランク を上回れる、 というコト。)
Wonder how those special conditions are activated...
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Old 2013-04-21, 23:51   Link #4217
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Well, that is actually a problem them. Will imply there is a factor that can trigger this conditions but is unique to each Servant.
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Old 2013-04-22, 17:17   Link #4218
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Is there a limit to Personal Skills in Servants (a limit in number): Rider (Fate) seems to have four skills...

And are Riders allowed to get Independent Action or only Archers?
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Old 2013-04-22, 17:53   Link #4219
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Is there a limit to Personal Skills in Servants (a limit in number): Rider (Fate) seems to have four skills...

And are Riders allowed to get Independent Action or only Archers?
There is no limit to personal skills, but most of the time a servant has around 2 or 3 of them.

Only an Archer has the Independent Action ability, it is a class unique ability.

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Rider has C as personal skill...

And Chulain has 5...
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