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Old 2013-05-10, 19:25   Link #5681
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Tanaka is quite a psycho...saying he would revenge his Master didn't make sense anyways.

The disciples are taught to stay out of the affairs of their Masters, or play the observers as best.
And Tanaka's Master was ill anyways.

So he is there to revenge his wife.
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Old 2013-05-10, 20:07   Link #5682
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What I see in this chapter,

Ogata = Joker

Tanaka = Havey Dent

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Old 2013-05-10, 20:37   Link #5683
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i think that was like , tanaka father in law died by the disease that he showed in this chapter and when kensei killed tanaka master, he killed tanaka's wife because she was training tanaka to become the next master since her father died too soon and he was not mastered all the techniques.
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Old 2013-05-10, 20:46   Link #5684
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I could see that happening, his Wife became his new Master after her father died from his illness. Then Ogata killed her.
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Old 2013-05-11, 01:41   Link #5685
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Another possibility,

Tanaka's wife and child are not actually dead but went missing instead (Just like a certain yomi deciple)
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Old 2013-05-11, 02:50   Link #5686
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Another possibility,

Tanaka's wife and child are not actually dead but went missing instead (Just like a certain yomi deciple)
It's not make sense. Because if that's true, Tanaka should spend all his time finding his wife and child instead of seeking revenge against Ogata.
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Old 2013-05-11, 02:55   Link #5687
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I think its possible that when Ogata killed his master, the daughter probably tried to kill him (Miu style) and Ogata ended up killing her as well. Since the wife was pregnant, this probably meant the end of her child too.
was thinking the same thing but to add a little bit more i think when Ogata attacked the daughter he did not know that she was pregnant he only learned that she was pregnant when he delivered the fatal blow my guess is if he knew that she was pregnant he would not have delivered a killing blow also i get the feeling he is not really enjoying this fight at all
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Old 2013-05-11, 03:04   Link #5688
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Maybe by seeing this Kenichi can relate to Tanaka and imagine what himself would be if miu or someone close to him is dead, maybe this will trigger his awakening as a beginner master class.
sad to say but i would rather have Tanaka as the trigger rather than any other of Keninchi's master as the said trigger
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Old 2013-05-11, 13:40   Link #5689
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was thinking the same thing but to add a little bit more i think when Ogata attacked the daughter he did not know that she was pregnant he only learned that she was pregnant when he delivered the fatal blow my guess is if he knew that she was pregnant he would not have delivered a killing blow also i get the feeling he is not really enjoying this fight at all
Either that, or the grief of learning of her father's death caused her to die in childbirth, so both lives were lost. Such a fate would drive Tanaka towards insanity, and force him to record her voice so he could fool himself into thinking she's still alive.

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sad to say but i would rather have Tanaka as the trigger rather than any other of Keninchi's master as the said trigger
Considering the path he's on is leading him towards self-destruction, that might be for the best. I doubt he's gonna live after this battle, since it seems he has nothing left to live for. Indeed, very sad.
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Old 2013-05-17, 11:43   Link #5690
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aahhh crap....... at least Ogata was not totally heartless he did warn her. ah if he only knew she was pregnant how things could have changed.........
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Old 2013-05-17, 12:01   Link #5691
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Everyone is equal on the battleground.

Also Kenichi is annoying.
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Old 2013-05-17, 13:15   Link #5692
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did he live in that forest to make amend?, hmm.
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Old 2013-05-17, 13:19   Link #5693
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aahhh crap....... at least Ogata was not totally heartless he did warn her. ah if he only knew she was pregnant how things could have changed.........
That is why he secluded himself back in the mountain where kenichi first meet him. He carved all the statue to repent for his sin killing a powerless and innocent baby. From the fight with tanaka he purposely incite tanaka with rage so tanaka could kill him but as a martial artist he want to die to someone much stronger .
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Old 2013-05-17, 13:19   Link #5694
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Another possibility,

Tanaka's wife and child are not actually dead but went missing instead (Just like a certain yomi deciple)
I'm thinking the wife is still alive but has been in a coma since then but lost the baby. Tanaka hasn't mentioned the death of his wife. He's only out for the death of his master which means even with this new chapter that she might still be alive but lost the child. Perhaps Ogata was about to deliver the death blow but Tanaka stopped him by mentioning that she was pregnant and Ogata just left. She was badly hurt and fell into a coma and lost the baby as a result.
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Old 2013-05-17, 14:34   Link #5695
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I'm thinking the wife is still alive but has been in a coma since then but lost the baby. Tanaka hasn't mentioned the death of his wife. He's only out for the death of his master which means even with this new chapter that she might still be alive but lost the child. Perhaps Ogata was about to deliver the death blow but Tanaka stopped him by mentioning that she was pregnant and Ogata just left. She was badly hurt and fell into a coma and lost the baby as a result.
I don't think that's the case. If it was true then Tanaka would be busy nursing her all time instead of running around the world seeking Ogata for revenge. Beside, he had that paranoid look on his face when he told Kenichi his wife "in a safe place" (aka "other world").
I always wonder why someone who devotes his whole life to martial art and fully believes in the way of satsujinken would have so much regret about killing someone. So it's all clear now, he accidentally killed a hapless unborn and he is going to use the rest of his life to atone for that sin. What annoys me is all those tragedies happened only because of the foolishness of Lois (Tanaka's wife). She thrown away her life meaninglessly while being pregnant, caused the death of her unborn child and the misery of her husband.
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Old 2013-05-17, 15:07   Link #5696
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I think Kensei feels guilty for killing Tanaka's unborn child. Sure, Tanaka's wife challenged him, and in his eyes he had every right to kill her, but killing that kid might have been a violation of his belief system
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Old 2013-05-17, 17:45   Link #5697
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Also Kenichi is annoying.
Agree, and he's doing what he's been doing best for most of the last 200+ chapters. On the sidelines being a spectator...
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Old 2013-05-19, 22:24   Link #5698
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man I feel sorry for Tanaka, all this time his wife and kid were dead
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Old 2013-05-24, 11:58   Link #5699
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I don't think Tanaka will get killed by Ogata, as long as he has no intentions of really killing Ogata.

This on the other hand let us conclude that his master and wife were really in a death match against him and lost.



And as perdicted by the most, Ogata only regrets killing the unborn, who had no choice and thus also lost to his own philosophy in a way.



Atleast Kenichi didn't scream so much.
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Old 2013-05-24, 19:23   Link #5700
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Waste of a chapter. Oh, Kenichi saying he can't hate Ogata. No surprise there. At least the next chapter will be the end to the fight. Maybe then will get some Kenichi development...j/k
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