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Old 2013-05-12, 00:30   Link #6581
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I think what he meant is Godou use Circe's Authority to turn the tide of the fight and win.
I knew that! Can't I jest?

Ama no Murakumo's black hole is too overpowered, but it has too many flaws as of right now.
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Old 2013-05-12, 07:33   Link #6582
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I knew that! Can't I jest?

Ama no Murakumo's black hole is too overpowered, but it has too many flaws as of right now.
thats true the black hole is really OP but it has too many flaws so Godou's trump card is still the sword or maybe his new authority
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Old 2013-05-12, 11:32   Link #6583
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hmm i think godou would not got a new authority from circe ...

it's stated in vol 13 that the "circle of usurpation" that transfer the authorities of a god to human that beat them will not work if if the god is already in half dead state ....

i think godou will either got some power up like a "mastery" of his verethragna skill or more magic supply or some hint that will give him that "white" thing ....
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Old 2013-05-12, 11:43   Link #6584
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He did get an authority as mentioned when he felt a heavy weight on his back, something which only happens when ypu gain an authority. Also Yuri saw it as well and Circe said she wanted to help in the eventual fight with the king of the end
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Old 2013-05-12, 11:56   Link #6585
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Personally, I think that whatever or not a new power, authority or whatever a Campione can get, from a god, is actually given,depends on the will of the god that has been defeated.

So, similarly to Athena, who has given Godou the spell to create the black hole of Ama no Murakumo, when she was already slowly dieing, Circe might also have given Godu some kind of spell or incomplete authority, that would help Godou in the future - after all, she did say that she wants to assist him, by sacrificing her remaining life.

Although, we will, most likely need to wait, for some time, before we will learn, what has actually been the thing that Circe has given to Godou.
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Old 2013-05-12, 13:48   Link #6586
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this is exactly my point from several post ago
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Old 2013-05-12, 14:13   Link #6587
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she was half dead... but (and i may be wrong here) didnt athena simply pass away after winning and circe actually died after a critical hit? i'd say circe although half dead qualifies as a "kill", not to mention godou didnt feel any "weight on his back" after the duel with athena
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Old 2013-05-12, 14:28   Link #6588
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Maybe the weight Godou felt on his back was actually his sin, guilt of killing a girl who love him wholeheartedly.
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Old 2013-05-12, 14:45   Link #6589
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it's stated in vol 13 that the "circle of usurpation" that transfer the authorities of a god to human that beat them will not work if if the god is already in half dead state ....
It's not stated explicitly what this Circle of Usurpation is, but the only circular object related to "a joke of a witch" and the stealing of authorities is Guinevere's medallion.

Besides, why would you think of normal transfer of authorities as a "circle" anyway? It's not even like there's some sort of cycle where gods obtain authorities back from Campiones in order to be reborn.
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Old 2013-05-12, 15:40   Link #6590
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It's not stated explicitly what this Circle of Usurpation is, but the only circular object related to "a joke of a witch" and the stealing of authorities is Guinevere's medallion.

Besides, why would you think of normal transfer of authorities as a "circle" anyway? It's not even like there's some sort of cycle where gods obtain authorities back from Campiones in order to be reborn.
......................She's talking about Pandora. The Circle of Usurpation is the spell she uses to transfer the authorities of defeated gods to her adopted children.
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Old 2013-05-12, 15:48   Link #6591
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円環 is a ring, torus, or a circular object.

How is the usurpation process even a circle in the first place (and never previously referred to as such)?
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Old 2013-05-12, 16:25   Link #6592
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円環 is a ring, torus, or a circular object.

How is the usurpation process even a circle in the first place (and never previously referred to as such)?
Well you are the translator but I also got the impression Circe was talking about Pandora as well. She was referred to as a witch numerous times. I thought “Circle of Usurpation” refers to the authority of Pandora or some kind of ritual or spell that allows the transfer of authority’s when a god is used as a sacrifice. Circle maybe because at the beginning the God is on the throne and the Human is an object but after the god gets killed the Object becomes King and sits on the throne. This continues so long until he is kicked out from the throne and therefore it is a never ending Circle.

By the way thanks for all the work you put in the translation of Campione and the other ones you are working on.

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Old 2013-05-12, 16:26   Link #6593
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Maybe the weight Godou felt on his back was actually his sin, guilt of killing a girl who love him wholeheartedly.
thats a nice joke there,anyway Alec feels the same when he defeated Minos so probably Godou obtains new authority
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Old 2013-05-12, 16:35   Link #6594
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thats a nice joke there,anyway Alec feels the same when he defeated Minos so probably Godou obtains new authority
Or... maybe the weight Alec felt on his back was actually his sin, guilt of killing a bull who love (to fight) him wholeheartedly.
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Old 2013-05-12, 17:15   Link #6595
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円環 is a ring, torus, or a circular object.

How is the usurpation process even a circle in the first place (and never previously referred to as such)?
Circe - "If only this half of a body is used as a sacrifice, the [Circle of Usurpation] belonging to that joke of a witch probably won't come into play..."

She talks about being a sacrifice, and the spell name includes usurpation. And Pandora has been called a witch before, by Melquart and Verethragna if I'm not mistaken.

Also, Guinevere no longer exists. The one now carrying the aforementioned medallion is Athena(Mark Two), and she isn't a witch, right?

Aaaaaand I just realized I was talking to Zzhk. Shutting up now.
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Old 2013-05-12, 17:41   Link #6596
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It's a cryptic remark, so Circe's words are obviously open to interpretation. My point is that Indra040293 shouldn't state his interpretation as fact.

Courtesy of Kadi, the translation of the Amazon synopsis of V14:
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The King of Swords, Doni, invites Godou to Italy. Although suspicious, Godou and the group take part in a divine beast hunt, but of course that can't be the end of it. After getting sucked into a certain hole, Godou ends up...?
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/vie...184031#p184031
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Old 2013-05-12, 17:46   Link #6597
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Thanks for the synopsis.
Is the cover out cuz i don't remember it
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Old 2013-05-12, 19:32   Link #6598
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Well, for now. We just need to wait for the next volume xD

Tough may there is a lot opinion in this case. Well that's just what i tough, so don't be mad

If i remember it right. Pandora's spell require a complete god as a sacrifice right... And circe is literaly "half" . I think it's the same as in the fight with sun wukong, neither of them got an authority. That's why i though he didn't get an authority, but some power up
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Old 2013-05-12, 20:02   Link #6599
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That summary sounds pretty interesting, though I'm rather surprised that Godou would willingly go visit Salvatore.

In any case, I'm looking forward to more Salvatore hijinks. Possibly we'll see his 4th Authority. Plus I've been wondering how he and Ena would get along, since they're quite similar.
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Old 2013-05-12, 21:16   Link #6600
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That summary sounds pretty interesting, though I'm rather surprised that Godou would willingly go visit Salvatore.

In any case, I'm looking forward to more Salvatore hijinks. Possibly we'll see his 4th Authority. Plus I've been wondering how he and Ena would get along, since they're quite similar.
No he would go because he knows if he does not Salvatore would probably just come to his house.
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