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Old 2013-05-12, 10:49   Link #321
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-I love see "normal" teenagers that doesn't have to be slaped or baited by promise of sex prior every battle. That iself makes this my favouite mecha of season (even if Gargantia is objectively better).
Are you implying that there are a lot of mecha anime pilots/protagonists out there who must be “baited by promise of sex prior every battle”? I personally don’t know many who can fall into that said category, and I’ve seen plenty.
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Old 2013-05-12, 10:52   Link #322
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-I love see "normal" teenagers that doesn't have to be slaped or baited by promise of sex prior every battle. That iself makes this my favouite mecha of season ( even if Gargantia is objectively better).
Wait this seriously happens?
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Old 2013-05-12, 11:58   Link #323
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I can't even think one one anime that does that.
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Old 2013-05-12, 12:12   Link #324
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Unless one counts Kira Yamato, though this is only made somewhat evident in the SEED movies/special editions... -_-
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And I doubt it was a regular kind of incentive.
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Old 2013-05-12, 12:23   Link #325
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I were refering about famous (or that I belived until now) " Brigh slap" from original Gundam.

That promise of sex is reference to NGE

Anyway I like MP for having realistic teenagers without exaggerated angst (explaining own jokes, what a pityfull being I am. Laught to me if you want )

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Old 2013-05-12, 13:12   Link #326
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I were refering about famous (or that I belived until now) " Brigh slap" from original Gundam.
The Bright Slap IS a famous scene - and I believe most Asuki readers familiar with the old Gundam series did catch the reference without any problem (heck, I've never bothered watching the original MSG and I still know of the Bright Slap). What threw everyone for a loop, however, was the second reference you threw in.

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That promise of sex is reference to NGE
Which only happened once in the EoE movie IIRC (you have to admit the scene is a bit ambiguous considering the circumstances under which the "promise" was made - and what happened the very moment after that). The reason why no one caught that, however, is because of this:

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Old 2013-05-12, 13:29   Link #327
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Haha yea, with Shinji it wasn't so much sex as daddy issues (Cue all the "Get in the f*ing robot Shinji" jokes).

I think I see what you're getting at though - a common theme for mecha shows is that if the main pilot is a young boy, more often than not they're doing it reluctantly, or against their will (saving the girl, immediate danger to their lives, etc).

Here we have a group of teenagers that are doing it willingly, without any second thoughts. Granted, it's because they're soldiers and that's all they know, but still nice to skip past the whining that usually accompanies such situations.
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Old 2013-05-12, 16:56   Link #328
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Unless one counts Kira Yamato, though this is only made somewhat evident in the SEED movies/special editions... -_-
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And I doubt it was a regular kind of incentive.
but she did not promise him to only have *6* with him only if he fight
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Old 2013-05-12, 19:11   Link #329
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You'd think medicine advanced enough for genetic engineering would've given Asagi either H. pylori antibiotics, PPIs for oversecretion, local slow-release anti-somatostatin, of which 2 are readily available as of present day.

But not everyone's a geek, much less a medical geek.
What if he's actually growing another organism in there and it's not an ulcer? Like in the "Alien" franchise?
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Old 2013-05-12, 21:12   Link #330
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Well it was pretty obvious in the first episode that the Wulgaru may not be aliens given how "human" the commander looked.

Though I hope this doesn't turn into a "we were a failed experiment that was abandoned by Earth and thus we are here to prove ourselves or something"

ANd not another "Understanding" crap.
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Old 2013-05-12, 21:13   Link #331
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ANd not another "Understanding" crap.
The number of times I've seen the concept of empathy turned down on this board is kind of disheartening.
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Old 2013-05-12, 21:29   Link #332
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Oh please spare me.

I don't care how many ways you spin it but so far for the Wulgaru this is nothing more than a hunt for them. The Earthlings are just "rabbits" that deserve to get shot and if they can give them a challenge then that's great. Even the Earth commanders made a note that so far at this point the Wulgaru hadn't taken them seriously at all.

Wars and bad things had happened due to misunderstandings but it in the end it resulted in one side being defeated and then coming together to negotiate. It did not involved a guy going around screaming "We must understand each other" and going around "disabling" units.
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Old 2013-05-12, 22:26   Link #333
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Oh please spare me.

I don't care how many ways you spin it but so far for the Wulgaru this is nothing more than a hunt for them. The Earthlings are just "rabbits" that deserve to get shot and if they can give them a challenge then that's great. Even the Earth commanders made a note that so far at this point the Wulgaru hadn't taken them seriously at all.

Wars and bad things had happened due to misunderstandings but it in the end it resulted in one side being defeated and then coming together to negotiate. It did not involved a guy going around screaming "We must understand each other" and going around "disabling" units.
The human side is seeing it as a war because they acknowledge their foes as sentient and intelligent. The Wulgaru see them as lower life forms, animals. Do you make war with animals? No, you hunt them. So the "understanding/empathy" that's needed is not the touchy-feely peace kind, it's recognizing the humans are on the same level, and following the rules of war.

Pure speculation on my part anyway - hard to really tell what their motives are at this point with so little info on them. We might even see a conflict of ideals on their side - if the white haired princess is indeed Wulgaru, she might be arguing for negotiation, while the rest of that council thinks they're only fit to be hunted.
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Old 2013-05-12, 22:34   Link #334
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What if he's actually growing another organism in there and it's not an ulcer? Like in the "Alien" franchise?
Towards the end of the show, when Team Rabbits is in a pinch, a new being will erupt from him and shows off his REAL piloting skills!
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Old 2013-05-13, 00:31   Link #335
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The human side is seeing it as a war because they acknowledge their foes as sentient and intelligent. The Wulgaru see them as lower life forms, animals. Do you make war with animals? No, you hunt them. So the "understanding/empathy" that's needed is not the touchy-feely peace kind, it's recognizing the humans are on the same level, and following the rules of war.

Pure speculation on my part anyway - hard to really tell what their motives are at this point with so little info on them. We might even see a conflict of ideals on their side - if the white haired princess is indeed Wulgaru, she might be arguing for negotiation, while the rest of that council thinks they're only fit to be hunted.
The way I'm seeing it so far is that the white haired girl Theoria is a childhood friend of Izuru that he no longer remembers because of the memory wipe. He was probably the one who gave he the book from episode 4 and was the one to motivate her o negotiate with the humans which is why she has seemingly been trying to help the humans.

can anyone translate what is on here about Theoria? i know it mentions Izuru but I'm not sure exactly what for.
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Old 2013-05-13, 05:33   Link #336
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What if he's actually growing another organism in there and it's not an ulcer? Like in the "Alien" franchise?
You mean Asagi is... pregnant?

Claim responsibility, Izuru!
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Old 2013-05-13, 08:27   Link #338
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Well, we really do know very little about the Wulgaru's motives in all of this.

It certainly doesn't look good on the face of it - It definitely does come across as being a blood-thirsty hunt on their part. And it just occurred to me that this being a hunt for the Wulgaru side would make "Team Rabbits" a rather fitting name.

But for all we know currently, the Wulgaru could have a much more reasonable motivation for their actions. It's best to remain prepared for that, especially given how anime often pulls the "last minute sob story meant to make the antagonist more sympathetic" bit.


One bit of pure speculation - I have a hunch that Simon (guy with the visor) is actually the father of one of the Team Rabbits members. I could see that being a pretty neat/dramatic reveal later on.
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Old 2013-05-13, 09:12   Link #339
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One bit of pure speculation - I have a hunch that Simon (guy with the visor) is actually the father of one of the Team Rabbits members. I could see that being a pretty neat/dramatic reveal later on.
If that's your hunch, I'd love to hear your guess about which one his child is.
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Old 2013-05-13, 09:52   Link #340
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If that's your hunch, I'd love to hear your guess about which one his child is.
I'm going back and forth between Hitachi and Asagi. Going by physical similarities, I could easily buy either as the son of Simon; both have hair pretty similar to Simon's.

While this is a team/ensemble-based show, Hitachi strikes me as being the main main protagonist (if you get what I mean), and so him being the son of Simon might be the most fitting given that added import.

On the other hand, one could argue that Asagi could use something like this more than Hitachi could. As an individual character, Asagi is basically a solid straightman who's only really defining trait is his frequent stomach problems.


Right now, I probably lean more towards Hitachi as the son of Simon in my speculations.
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