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Old 2013-05-20, 08:27   Link #281
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Just asking but are you familiar with fluid dynamics and the physical properties of gas??
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Old 2013-05-20, 08:49   Link #282
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Just asking but are you familiar with fluid dynamics and the physical properties of gas??
... Are you?
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Old 2013-05-20, 09:13   Link #283
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Arg this is frustrating.

I'll post the answer on the manga thread, if anyone wants to check it out.

In case people just want to see the post, and not any other potential spoilers on the thread, here's a direct link to just my post.


This should end any arguments related to gas.
Unless you're talking about Sasha's.
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Old 2013-05-20, 21:12   Link #284
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... Are you?
yes.... though still in the middle of studying it but it is part of my curriculum

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Arg this is frustrating.

I'll post the answer on the manga thread, if anyone wants to check it out.

In case people just want to see the post, and not any other potential spoilers on the thread, here's a direct link to just my post.


This should end any arguments related to gas.
Unless you're talking about Sasha's.
sorry... I wanna try imagining what types of materials it be made in the RL
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Old 2013-05-21, 03:40   Link #285
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sorry... I wanna try imagining what types of materials it be made in the RL
Let's just imaging oxygen tanks.... Compress gas are very unstable that's why they are put in metal tanks... I meant HEAVY METAL TANKS.... I'm telling you.... if that like of gas does exist... you need a strong container... a HEAVY CONTAINER.... even a portable gas tank is like 10-15 kgs...
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Old 2013-05-21, 06:56   Link #286
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Well there already systems to use compressed gas as a way to store energy.

And there are also compressed air vehicles.

I'm not aware of anything of the sort that uses compressed gasses different from air.

I suppose that means that air is efficient enough and other gasses wouldn't be worth the effort since you'd need to spend even more energy to extract them or refine them.
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Old 2013-05-21, 08:24   Link #287
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No, they're monster.. Fictional Monsters that look like humans without d*cks.
Well, we can just agree to disagree here, at this point it's become a semantics argument.

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Arg this is frustrating.

I'll post the answer on the manga thread, if anyone wants to check it out.

In case people just want to see the post, and not any other potential spoilers on the thread, here's a direct link to just my post.


This should end any arguments related to gas.
Unless you're talking about Sasha's.
Thanks for the info. I hadn't entertained the thought, that this world might had some fictional material.
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Old 2013-05-21, 12:40   Link #288
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Well there already systems to use compressed gas as a way to store energy.

And there are also compressed air vehicles.

I'm not aware of anything of the sort that uses compressed gasses different from air.

I suppose that means that air is efficient enough and other gasses wouldn't be worth the effort since you'd need to spend even more energy to extract them or refine them.
Well, there are paintball guns. Most of them use small canisters of CO2, as do some bb/pellet guns.
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Old 2013-05-21, 16:47   Link #289
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Well, we can just agree to disagree here, at this point it's become a semantics argument
What were we talking about again?

Anyway... do they have any other used of this gas other than as a propellant?
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Old 2013-05-21, 22:25   Link #290
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So has anyone else gone out to buy an AoT inspired jacket yet? XD

I just did, can't wait til they release the division patches.

I always imagined that their jackets were leather but no way am I going to find one with that style of collar and lapel in leather, especially in real life for me to try on. But the one I got at least has the utility pockets and the epaulets.

If they don't release the patches, are any of you aware of any places I can get custom embroidered patches made?

But the o
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Old 2013-05-22, 15:30   Link #291
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I thought they were using compressed natural gas that the gear burned through a high-pressure nozzle to propel the hooks, then expelled the excess gas through the back to cool the system. Guess not. I'm assuming the author is just sort of glazing over the technology a bit, like how it wasn't really explained how the full-body straps help them stay oriented and balanced.

But if it's using compressed gas to power the 3DMG like a kind of high-powered paintball gun, wouldn't the range of their grappling hooks be gradually reduced over time, as the pressure within the canister becomes less and less? [enter rant about poorly thought-out mechanics]

Personally I was expecting a more steampunk/gearpunk function to the 3DMG (way back before they explained that it required gas), and that it would have worked with clockwork springs or something mechanical that they could reset physically, rather than something like... a gas tank. The fact that characters are always forced to worry about their gas supply is frankly more irritating and distracting than it is tension-inducing.
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Old 2013-05-22, 16:09   Link #292
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I thought they were using compressed natural gas that the gear burned through a high-pressure nozzle to propel the hooks, then expelled the excess gas through the back to cool the system. Guess not. I'm assuming the author is just sort of glazing over the technology a bit, like how it wasn't really explained how the full-body straps help them stay oriented and balanced.

But if it's using compressed gas to power the 3DMG like a kind of high-powered paintball gun, wouldn't the range of their grappling hooks be gradually reduced over time, as the pressure within the canister becomes less and less? [enter rant about poorly thought-out mechanics]

Personally I was expecting a more steampunk/gearpunk function to the 3DMG (way back before they explained that it required gas), and that it would have worked with clockwork springs or something mechanical that they could reset physically, rather than something like... a gas tank. The fact that characters are always forced to worry about their gas supply is frankly more irritating and distracting than it is tension-inducing.
Maybe this will help explain a bit better how they stay balanced and how the fan works?

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Old 2013-05-22, 19:21   Link #293
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Maybe this will help explain a bit better how they stay balanced and how the fan works?

Spoiler for Technical images from the manga explaining how the 3DM Gear works:
the fan certainly looks different from the anime

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Old 2013-05-22, 19:41   Link #294
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The manga version would make me think that they're either carrying mini-kegs or are rescue St. Bernards. On the other hand the anime version seems very small for what it does.
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Old 2013-05-23, 07:28   Link #295
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Personally I was expecting a more steampunk/gearpunk function to the 3DMG (way back before they explained that it required gas), and that it would have worked with clockwork springs or something mechanical that they could reset physically, rather than something like... a gas tank. The fact that characters are always forced to worry about their gas supply is frankly more irritating and distracting than it is tension-inducing.
I think the author wanted to make the mechanism as much as credible as possible (even though it's application is not). He needed to come up with a power source that could move dozen kilos of mass fast and for a few hours without resorting to something too advanced.
A simple spring mechanism would have challenged my suspension of disbelief even more than it already is.
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Old 2013-05-23, 07:36   Link #296
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I think the author wanted to make the mechanism as much as credible as possible (even though it's application is not). He needed to come up with a power source that could move dozen kilos of mass fast and for a few hours without resorting to something too advanced.
A simple spring mechanism would have challenged my suspension of disbelief even more than it already is.
These holes in their technology gives me headaches... the gas, the spring, the blades and the harpoons.... man..
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Old 2013-05-23, 07:43   Link #297
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These holes in their technology gives me headaches... the gas, the spring, the blades and the harpoons.... man..
Cant be helped aside from those weapons the fastest and most precise method to kill a big monsters is a mech lol
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Old 2013-05-23, 07:50   Link #298
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Another though.. the neck as a weakness is LOls.. beheading wouldn't work but slicing the neck does... If they just made it like stupid giants eating anything and can't be killed like normal humans do, it'll be more exciting..... giants bleeding to death... mutilation and decapitation would be like.... yeah damn...
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Old 2013-05-23, 07:57   Link #299
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Cant be helped aside from those weapons the fastest and most precise method to kill a big monsters is a mech lol
Pretty much on the same level of plausibly. But as said before a couple pages back, most sci-fi items usually requires a suspense of disbelieve. I'm just hapy the author thought about to work well enough rather than just tossing everything to the wall.

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Another though.. the neck as a weakness is LOls.. beheading wouldn't work but slicing the neck does...
Why would this be weird? It just means recovery for that one spot is weaker than the rest. It's very difficult spot to strike without more advanced weapons anyway.
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Old 2013-05-23, 08:05   Link #300
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Why would this be weird? It just means recovery for that one spot is weaker than the rest. It's very difficult spot to strike without more advanced weapons anyway.
It's weird if you know anatomy. What's not achieved in beheading that is achieved in slicing the neck aside knowing the fact that beheading is just slicing through and through the neck?

It would have been understandable that beheading should also work (even better) but obviously their blade can't be possibly long or strong enough to slice through and through the neck. Based on the last episode, the new Titan managed to behead another titan but it still moved... it was just neutralized after severing the neck ( by stepping on it).

The reason why I think slicing the neck is the only way is because the fact is...their blade can't be possibly long or strong enough to slice through and through the neck. It's practical and pretty achievable.

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