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Old 2013-05-27, 09:04   Link #381
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Israel and Russia has a history of swapping spit. Remember Georgia and the drones?
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Old 2013-05-27, 15:23   Link #382
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Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels:

"Sen. John McCain Monday became the highest-ranking U.S. official to enter Syria
since the bloody civil war there began more than two years ago, The Daily Beast
has learned.

McCain, one of the fiercest critics of the Obama administration’s Syria policy, made
the unannounced visit across the Turkey-Syria border with Gen. Salem Idris, the
leader of the Supreme Military Council of the Free Syrian Army. He stayed in the
country for several hours before returning to Turkey. Both in Syria and Turkey,
McCain and Idris met with assembled leaders of Free Syrian Army units that
traveled from around the country to see the U.S. senator. Inside those meetings,
rebel leaders called on the United States to step up its support to the Syrian
armed opposition and provide them with heavy weapons, a no-fly zone, and
airstrikes on the Syrian regime and the forces of Hezbollah, which is increasingly
active in Syria."

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...th-rebels.html
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Old 2013-05-27, 16:57   Link #383
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Now that's just nuts. He is doing this for PR just to stay relevant. But it doesn't help anybody.
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Old 2013-05-27, 18:13   Link #384
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Exclusive: John McCain Slips Across Border Into Syria, Meets With Rebels:

"Sen. John McCain Monday became the highest-ranking U.S. official to enter Syria
since the bloody civil war there began more than two years ago, The Daily Beast
has learned.

McCain, one of the fiercest critics of the Obama administration’s Syria policy, made
the unannounced visit across the Turkey-Syria border with Gen. Salem Idris, the
leader of the Supreme Military Council of the Free Syrian Army. He stayed in the
country for several hours before returning to Turkey. Both in Syria and Turkey,
McCain and Idris met with assembled leaders of Free Syrian Army units that
traveled from around the country to see the U.S. senator. Inside those meetings,
rebel leaders called on the United States to step up its support to the Syrian
armed opposition and provide them with heavy weapons, a no-fly zone, and
airstrikes on the Syrian regime and the forces of Hezbollah, which is increasingly
active in Syria."

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...th-rebels.html
Is something wrong with me to think than some persons or groups would be happy if something happen to McCain while in Syria ?
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Old 2013-05-27, 18:49   Link #385
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Syria fighting rages, more chemical attacks reported:

"Heavy fighting raged around the strategic Syrian border town of Qusair and the
capital Damascus on Monday and further reports surfaced of chemical weapons
attacks by President Bashar al-Assad's forces on rebel areas."

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...94Q07D20130527
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Old 2013-05-28, 15:05   Link #386
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Israel warns Russia against arming Syrian government:

"Israel quickly issued a thinly veiled warning that it would bomb the Russian S-300
missiles if they were sent to Syria, as such a move would bring the advanced
guided missiles within range of civilian and military planes over Israel. Israel has
conducted three sets of air strikes on Syria this year, aimed at preventing missiles
being brought close to its border by the Lebanese Shia group Hezbollah."

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...els?CMP=twt_fd
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Old 2013-05-28, 16:45   Link #387
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See. Israel is not about to give up their air superiority in the region. Russia or no Russia.
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Old 2013-05-28, 19:42   Link #388
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See. Israel is not about to give up their air superiority in the region. Russia or no Russia.
If they really believe themselves to be invincible, that's their right. I just hope Israel don't demand the rest of us to fight Russians for them.
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Old 2013-05-28, 22:02   Link #389
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From what I remember, when it comes to things on their own border, the Israeli take care of it themselves.

Since air superiority is pretty much how the Israeli have won most of the time, they aren't about to give it up. Especially to Syria.
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Old 2013-05-29, 05:58   Link #390
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The Russians probably won't sell such advanced hardware to a place where its technology can be easily pilfered by undercover NATO agents.

Even if they did, they would sell S300s with special command codes that does not address to the rest of their arsenal; which then they would sell the codes to the Israelis for extra money, knowing that they would leak them to the Americans and cause the latter to be more complacent.

Which then they can capture the technology when a F-35 or B2 is shot down with that.
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Old 2013-05-29, 20:32   Link #391
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Syria says Assad will remain president until 2014
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...05-29-18-23-39
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Syria's foreign minister laid out a hard line Wednesday, saying Bashar Assad will remain president at least until elections in 2014 and might seek another term, conditions that will make it difficult for the opposition to agree to U.N.-sponsored talks on ending the civil war.
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Old 2013-05-30, 11:46   Link #392
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I find it funny Israel is the only country allowed to bomb other countries for having defensive weapons.
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Old 2013-05-30, 12:06   Link #393
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r_3Nf2jWPU

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See. Israel is not about to give up their air superiority in the region. Russia or no Russia.
Well I'm sure Israel won't mind a russian mediterranean fleet loitering near its shores. How much more suicidal can it get I wonder.
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Old 2013-05-30, 13:56   Link #394
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I find it funny Israel is the only country allowed to bomb other countries for having defensive weapons.
Given the range of the beast, the S-300 is mainly defensive but it could have a limited use on a offensive role.
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Old 2013-05-30, 15:18   Link #395
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Given the range of the beast, the S-300 is mainly defensive but it could have a limited use on a offensive role.
This is the Middle East we are talking about, neighbors so packed to each other a high-grade Chinese Firecracker could be used in a offensive role. But does that give you the right to blow up other country' defenses before aggression? Israel can't even claim these fixed launchers will end up in Hezbollah.

In other news: MCCain palling with terrorists

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...ors_picks=true
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Old 2013-05-30, 22:49   Link #396
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Syria: The Spanish Civil War All Over Again:

"History may not quite repeat itself, but the war in Syria — invariably, “the Syrian
Civil War” — is eerily similar to the “Spanish Civil War” in the mid-1930s. The latter
started as an internal conflict, as did Syria, and then sucked in the major powers,
including Great Britain, France, Hitler’s Germany, Mussolini’s Italy, and Stalin’s Soviet
Union. The Syrian war features active intervention from Russia and Iran, Saudi
Arabia, the Emirates, and Qatar, and increasingly busy action is en route from Great
Britain, France, and the United States."

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http://pjmedia.com/michaelledeen/201...ll-over-again/
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Old 2013-05-30, 22:56   Link #397
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Why are the British and French always involved in stuff like this?
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Old 2013-05-30, 23:43   Link #398
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Empire building is a hobby that is hard to get over.

And yes Israel will do it to keep their air superiority. The likelihood is that Russia won't do anything in responce because Syria is not worth it as long as Russia can keep its Naval base.

If Russia does do something, well....it was a nice world.....
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Old 2013-05-31, 09:13   Link #399
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The USSR didn't dirty its hands during 1973. Why would Russia do so now?
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Old 2013-06-04, 16:01   Link #400
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U.N. believes chemical weapons used in Syria
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9530VE20130604
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"There are reasonable grounds to believe that limited quantities of toxic chemicals were used. It has not been possible, on the evidence available, to determine the precise chemical agents used, their delivery systems or the perpetrator," Paulo Pinheiro, who chairs the U.N. commission of inquiry, told a news conference in Geneva.

"The witnesses that we have interviewed include victims, refugees who fled some areas, and medical staff," Pinheiro said, declining to be more specific for reasons of confidentiality
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