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Old 2013-06-12, 13:29   Link #3481
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So in the end we didn't get a damn bit of an explanation to anything of the twist, lol. So I guess next chapter we'll meet the real Zangetsu or is Hichigo the real Zangetsu, I'm so confused.
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Old 2013-06-12, 13:44   Link #3482
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That's an interesting idea, btw. Since everyone was saying that "bankai can't be that small", back then.

But would that make his "Bankai" stealable? Or would hollow interfere?
I thinking the only reason they couldn't seal his bankai was because it was quincy and not a shinigami type or Zangetsu was blocking it with his quincy powers.
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Old 2013-06-12, 14:43   Link #3483
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the fact that Ichigo wasn't using all his strength in his fights bother me a little.

so now the question if Ichigo gain his real Zangetsu, could the quincies seal his bankai now?
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Old 2013-06-12, 14:51   Link #3484
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I wonder if the real Zangetsu will look like someone we already know! Maybe even Aizen perhaps?
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Old 2013-06-12, 15:10   Link #3485
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I wonder if the real Zangetsu will look like someone we already know! Maybe even Aizen perhaps?
Maybe Aizen... is Zangetsu! He is so powerful he became his own person.

I wonder if this is like the anime fillers were zanpakutos are based on the shinigami's personality.
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Old 2013-06-12, 16:33   Link #3486
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How overpowered is Ichigo going to be? He was mid-captain class before using only a fraction of his true powers. He won't even need bankai to rape the quincies.
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Old 2013-06-12, 16:35   Link #3487
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It was an alright chapter. Though having the disembodied spirit power of the main enemy aid him feels a bit odd. It also means Ichigo went supremely far with a fraction of his true power. Only vs Ulq's final form and the last minutes of his fight with Byakuya did his hollow need to intervene (not counting Vizard form).
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Old 2013-06-12, 16:50   Link #3488
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And the complaints are already rolling in. There's just no satisfying anyone anymore.

Kubo may as well just release a chapter consisting of a single blank white panel that says. "Stuff happened to Ichigo. The End."
or he could try a good story that makes sense. just an idea...

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So super special awesome combination form Ichigo (vs. Aizen) was with "Zangetsu" trying to restrain his powers? This series may be finishing sooner than we thought...
"ichigo, remember when you were stronger than all the captains and aizen's highest evolution? that was only 1.3% of your true power. i was holding you back. you actually have the power of 1,000 suns. enjoy"

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I wonder if the real Zangetsu will look like someone we already know! Maybe even Aizen perhaps?
ahahah! "I'm your real zanpakutou... aizen *cough* oh wait i mean zanget.. no can't use that name again. ugh what's a good name to make up? .. umm would you believe rukia?"

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It was an alright chapter. Though having the disembodied spirit power of the main enemy aid him feels a bit odd.
i would say nonsensical, but who's counting? also if he wanted to help, then why cant he just stay and help? surely he knows a lot about ichigo's quincy powers... why am i even bothering to make sense of this story?
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Old 2013-06-12, 16:55   Link #3489
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Everyone go home. Ichigo's got this with his new Super Super Big Formerly Quincified Now Pure Bankai!

So now everyone can be fodder and serve as distractions while Ichigo powers up.
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Old 2013-06-12, 17:49   Link #3490
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I always wondered what was under Zangetsu's (Juha Bach's) cloak.
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Old 2013-06-12, 18:14   Link #3491
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or he could try a good story that makes sense. just an idea...
You're naive if you think that will stop the complaining. Especially since the definition of a "good story" is going to vary between different people.
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Old 2013-06-12, 18:42   Link #3492
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I always wondered what was under Zangetsu's (Juha Bach's) cloak.

Yeah about young Bach's appearance, I'm no history major but I'm pretty sure people weren't wearing army boots and sunglasses 1000 years ago. Heh, Juha was a trendsetter back in the day I guess
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Old 2013-06-12, 18:52   Link #3493
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You're naive if you think that will stop the complaining. Especially since the definition of a "good story" is going to vary between different people.
you're the naive one. ever read the one piece forum? people hardly ever complain since the story is so solid
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Old 2013-06-12, 19:04   Link #3494
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you're the naive one. ever read the one piece forum? people hardly ever complain since the story is so solid
While I don't read One Piece, pretty much this. There will always be complainers, but if the story is solid they'll be drowned out by praisers.
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Old 2013-06-12, 19:13   Link #3495
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Maybe if Kubo takes writing lessons from Oda, less people wouldn't be complaining!
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Old 2013-06-12, 19:24   Link #3496
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Problem is, he can write well. Just look at the beginning through SS arc. It's more like he's just short-sighted, and doesn't want to be hassled with past events. Similar to American comic writers, really. But they also have to work with like 60 years of stories written by other people, not 10 years written by yourself.
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Old 2013-06-12, 19:43   Link #3497
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Problem is, he can write well. Just look at the beginning through SS arc. It's more like he's just short-sighted, and doesn't want to be hassled with past events. Similar to American comic writers, really. But they also have to work with like 60 years of stories written by other people, not 10 years written by yourself.
I loved the SS arc. Still do to this day. I even liked some of the HM arc, especially the teamwork of the nakama.

I hate beating a dead horse, but Kubo just gave the fuck up after all of that business with Aizen in the end.

Does Kubo have assistants? He really should keep track of things because this arc is seriously full of retconning left and right.
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Old 2013-06-12, 20:03   Link #3498
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So I'm curious about something...

If old man zangetsu was really a piece of Juha Bach, then who exactly is tensa (young) zangetsu? Still a piece of Juha Bach's soul? The REAL zangetsu? The Spirit King?

This week's chapter was weak. I know zangetsu hasn't been around in a while, but damn he's been there since the early days. If he's going to straight up evaporate like Ulquiorra did, he should've gotten a bit more screen time. Saying "I wanted to kill you at first, but then I thought 'hmmm, maybe not' so here's a power up before I peace out" just doesn't cut it.
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Old 2013-06-12, 20:07   Link #3499
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Juha Bach officially Tsundere for Ichigo was the main point of this.
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Old 2013-06-12, 21:18   Link #3500
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Juha Bach officially Tsundere for Ichigo was the main point of this.
seriously... i already regret delving into it this deeply, but his motivation makes so little sense, i can't help it. he said that if ichigo became a shinigami he'd have to kill him, yet everything zangetsu did prior to this arc was either helping ichigo be a shinigami or helping the other shinigami by powering ichigo up for their cause. the only conflict zangetsu ever had was strictly personal about ichigo's recognition of him first as an entity with a name and then as him himself. it's true that that was tensa zangetsu, but like Langus asked, what or who the hell is tensa zangetsu? if he's not bach, then where was bach at that time? and if it is a combo of bach and ichigo then he lied again at that time. unless a character lies for a reason specific to that story arc, it's ultra lame to say they lied about something (like their identity of all things) just to retcon some stupid side story with the final villain... i would actually give kubo credit for giving a reason as to why zangetsu looked like that, seeing as how hichigo looks like ichigo and that's really zangetsu. BUT none of the other shinigami have zanpakutou that look like them... they all look like new characters. so are those all quincy as well? i doubt it, but it eliminates the bach reveal explaining zangetsu's appearance. and since it's a retcon, zangetsu's appearance could have been explained to be anything... ok done it's too stupid lol
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