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Old 2013-06-13, 07:36   Link #1341
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Feature wise, i assume they are targeting families with the standard tv setup by offering all in one solution and that's a good thing. There's obvious advantage to having a single box that handles all everything for your standard tv instead of juggling between your cable tv box, dvr and gaming console.
Think MS still haven't detailed how the TV feature will work. The Xbone itself doesn't seem to have aerial/coaxial input, meaning the feed must come somehow form the hdmi connector. I'm not 100% sure, but that means your TV needs to have at least either two hdmi connectors, one to send the TV feed to the xbone and another to receive the processed feed, or one hdmi connector meeting least the 1.4 spec and a hdmi cable with ethernet channel. See this is actually more confusing for your average person. I reckon most people have HDTVs with one hdmi and with pre hdmi 1.4 connectors, this means they will have to get a new TV just to utilised the full potential of the xbone.
In that case, they might as well buy a new TV and a PS4 or PC, considering that steaming is on the rise, and neither PC or PS4 have a paywalls blocking streaming services. If I understand correctly you can get netflix or another service on the PS4/3 without having PS+, unlike the 360(and possible Xbone) where you need to have live subscription.
The idea of the xbone sound fine, but once you ask the questions on how it will work, it get a bit confusing, because nothing was covered in detail by MS.

Kind of disappointed that no "videogames" journalist actually inquired about the TV features. It is one of the machines core feature, but non of them thought it would be an good idea to ask how it actually works, or what is required to make it work.
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Old 2013-06-13, 07:57   Link #1342
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the thing is...MS has all those DRM, and paywall upon paywall, 24 hour online checking just to play....that put people off...

they treat people like they are a potential criminal, even with TV feature, plus kinect which is good i should say..that is not enough to sway many people...oh yea, even more so by their arrogance, have you heard the interview with don mattrick? he basically said if you want offline gaming just buy 360 which is really arrogant, reminder of sony in 2006.
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Old 2013-06-13, 07:57   Link #1343
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Think MS still haven't detailed how the TV feature will work. The Xbone itself doesn't seem to have aerial/coaxial input, meaning the feed must come somehow form the hdmi connector. I'm not 100% sure, but that means your TV needs to have at least either two hdmi connectors, one to send the TV feed to the xbone and another to receive the processed feed, or one hdmi connector meeting least the 1.4 spec and a hdmi cable with ethernet channel. See this is actually more confusing for your average person. I reckon most people have HDTVs with one hdmi and with pre hdmi 1.4 connectors, this means they will have to get a new TV just to utilised the full potential of the xbone.
In that case, they might as well buy a new TV and a PS4 or PC, considering that steaming is on the rise, and neither PC or PS4 have a paywalls blocking streaming services. If I understand correctly you can get netflix or another service on the PS4/3 without having PS+, unlike the 360(and possible Xbone) where you need to have live subscription.
The idea of the xbone sound fine, but once you ask the questions on how it will work, it get a bit confusing, because nothing was covered in detail by MS.

Kind of disappointed that no "videogames" journalist actually inquired about the TV features. It is one of the machines core feature, but non of them thought it would be an good idea to ask how it actually works, or what is required to make it work.
It's been confirmed for a while that the XBox One has two HDMI ports: one for input and one for output. You plug your DVR into the XBox and the XBox to the TV. If the DVR supports HDMI-CEC the xbox will be able to change channels, if it doesn't you'll have to buy a separate IR blaster for the xbox that will work as a remote for your DVR. (this is all confirmed aside from using HDMI-CEC. I'm just guessing that Microsoft isn't building a new standard to do this but I wouldn't put it past them).
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Old 2013-06-13, 08:51   Link #1344
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It's been confirmed for a while that the XBox One has two HDMI ports: one for input and one for output. You plug your DVR into the XBox and the XBox to the TV. If the DVR supports the xbox will be able to change channels, if it doesn't you'll have to buy a separate IR blaster for the xbox that will work as a remote for your DVR. (this is all confirmed aside from using HDMI-CEC. I'm just guessing that Microsoft isn't building a new standard to do this but I wouldn't put it past them).
Exactly what i meant with confusion. I know that it has a hdmi in and dvr features, but I don't think any independent press stated that you have to use a external device to receive TV signals. lol it only has game recording function, which they dubbed as "Game DVR" or something, not wonder that no one reported about it.

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Connect your cable or satellite box to Xbox One and watch all your favorite television
shows right through the console.*1 All your favorite channels. All your favorite shows.
All with the sound of your voice. You can even create your own personal channel
by pinning the shows and apps you watch most. Gone are the days of switching
inputs to watch TV or play a movie. Xbox One can do it all.

*1. Supported television tuner or cable/satellite set top box with HDMI output and HDMI cable required (all sold separately).
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Old 2013-06-13, 10:00   Link #1345
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I actually don't recall where I read that the IR Blaster would be a separate purchase so I'll add the caveat that I may be wrong on that fact but both The Verge and Eurogamer have pretty extensive writeups about the XBox One covering the TV functionality written back when Microsoft made the original announcement in May.

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Old 2013-06-13, 10:38   Link #1346
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Remember how Spencer forgot to switch off his mike off stage? Someone noticed what he said after he announced the prices for the MS console: from 0.33 sec.
"I thought they'd be happy about the new price".

That's right; the MS console was actually meant to be MORE expensive, the $499 was the discounted price.
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Old 2013-06-13, 11:17   Link #1347
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Remember how Spencer forgot to switch off his mike off stage? Someone noticed what he said after he announced the prices for the MS console: from 0.33 sec.
"I thought they'd be happy about the new price".

That's right; the MS console was actually meant to be MORE expensive, the $499 was the discounted price.
Eh... I'm not so sure about the accuracy of that.

I heard : I thought they took out the UK price, which made sense since he stuttered when he talked about the UK pricing.
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Old 2013-06-13, 14:22   Link #1348
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I'm not going to lie, this made me laugh.



If Sony doesn't follow through with their supposed plans to be DRM-free, I will be very surprised.
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Old 2013-06-13, 14:27   Link #1349
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That video has almost 11 million views in 2 days.

If Sony backtracks on their DRM stance there will be a bigger backlash than the one MS received.
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Old 2013-06-13, 14:33   Link #1350
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That video has almost 11 million views in 2 days.

If Sony backtracks on their DRM stance there will be a bigger backlash than the one MS received.
I highly doubt they will at this point. Given that Sony actually seems to have situational awareness of what gamers actually want, it would be silly of them to pass up a perfectly good opportunity to bury the competition.

Not that I promote monopolies, but if Microsoft is going to shoot themselves in the foot despite so much negative feedback, I don't see what more we can do except "vote with our wallets", as AngryJoe likes to put it. Hopefully this will spur Microsoft to pull its collective head out of its collective ass.

I've been an XBOX gamer for almost 8 years now, but I see no reason to stay loyal to a company that doesn't stay loyal to its customers.
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Old 2013-06-13, 18:14   Link #1351
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http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mis...any-ten-people

Now THIS is interesting. If they go by these rules it will absolutely make up for the DRM thing. Sharing games with a friend of mine in Chicago this easily is insane. I'm eager to hear more news about this.
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Old 2013-06-13, 18:28   Link #1352
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It'll be left up to the publishers to decide if they want to enable those features.

None will do so.
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Old 2013-06-13, 18:39   Link #1353
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It'll be left up to the publishers to decide if they want to enable those features.

None will do so.
It might possibly be limited to certain games.
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Old 2013-06-13, 19:00   Link #1354
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It's interesting, yet the same time, they cannot put themselves in a position to explicitly push the benefits of that feature.

Publishers would rather have the used-game market than risk 60-80% of their revenue 'lost' by legal 10-friend sharing.
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Old 2013-06-13, 19:29   Link #1355
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Old 2013-06-13, 19:31   Link #1356
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Ah just had the most brilliant thought.
Killer instint is being made not by rare, but by double helix games; Sunset overdrive is an exclusive for Xbox one, Its published by MS and developed by insomniac; this move means insomniac is willing to make exclusive games for MS. What does this all mean? MS actually COULD and seems like they should be willing, to ask insomniac to make a banjo Kazooie game. As the makers of Rachet and Clank i have no doubt in my mind that Insomniac probably could create a great Banjo Kazooie game. Now if only MS has the imagination to do it

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Now THIS is interesting. If they go by these rules it will absolutely make up for the DRM thing. Sharing games with a friend of mine in Chicago this easily is insane. I'm eager to hear more news about this.
Yes this is a nice feature... share they couldn't give us the benefit without the DRM. It would be simple too. Just require that the home console needs to use the disk to play the game. The family cloud gamers don't need the disk, but the main console the game is install on would. This would eliminate the possibility of trying to install the game on more than one system using the same disk, thus eliminate the need to have the 24 hour check-in, and thus allow you to play offline all you want. Really simply requiring someone to have the disk for the game they bought a physical copy of, is the simpliest, most piratical, and least restrictive form of DRM. All of the benefit, NONE of the Bullshit.

But ofcourse, the real reason that 24 hour check in exists is for MS's benefit so that they can better control the used game market and control how you share your games.
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Old 2013-06-13, 21:53   Link #1357
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A lot of people could benefit from this feature.

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Old 2013-06-13, 21:59   Link #1358
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And where's the pop-up that says "The publisher has disabled this feature." on your lower picture? Because I'm sure that's going to pop up more than it doesn't.
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Old 2013-06-13, 22:05   Link #1359
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We'll wait and see. I'm however, going to stay optimistic. This would save me a lot of money in the long run.
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Old 2013-06-13, 22:13   Link #1360
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This would save me a lot of money in the long run.
And that's why it won't likely happen.
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