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Old 2013-06-14, 10:04   Link #3521
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Manami wants to date with Kyosuke but Kirino was more fast and now Manami is angry, isn't she?
Manami wants to marry him, that's for sure
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Old 2013-06-14, 10:08   Link #3522
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Manami wants to marry him, that's for sure
I think he is better with his ''Imouto-Wife''
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Old 2013-06-14, 10:08   Link #3523
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- Playing eroge with my imouto, going to a date with my imouto, squabbling with my imouto, and the days of sleeping together.
- 'Make love with your imouto ♪'

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Looks mistranslation, there are no indication that "sleeping together event" happen more than once in original text, it just enumeration of various events that happened in course of those days.
And "Make love with your imouto" is part of with next sentence, it's more like
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(no offense@SigUp, of course, this kind of mistakes cannot be avoided in double&quick translation)
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Old 2013-06-14, 10:12   Link #3524
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If she knew Kirino's feelings back then,why didnt she confess to him back then knowing that he might had harbored feelings for her???
Mmmm I think that She thought that Kirino had not ovaries and Kyosuke had not that interest in his sister xD
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Old 2013-06-14, 10:23   Link #3525
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Looks mistranslation, there are no indication that "sleeping together event" happen more than once in original text, it just enumeration of various events that happened in course of those days.
And "Make love with your imouto" is part of with next sentence, it's more like
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(no offense@SigUp, of course, this kind of mistakes cannot be avoided in double&quick translation)
I wasn't sure about the one with the sleeping either, perhaps I'll take it out, here's the original Japanese version for those who understand Japanese

気付けば一緒に寝ていたりして。

As for the Make love with your imouto, that's the title of a game, although I dislike the use of 'make love' (due to the obvious meaning in English) I still used it, as this was the expression used in the anime sub and the translation of volume 1. The Chinese and Japanese expression captures the meaning better with 恋.
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Old 2013-06-14, 10:28   Link #3526
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I can only thing she didn't clear things up because she might have thought it would make things worse or scared both of them would hate her for it.
Didn't Kirino come to Manami to talk about her feelings in away bring her into the relationship? With the "making him normal thing" she said he is normal I don't see it as questioning his quality. Just speaking the truth plus she just a kid her self so I don't the she know much about psychology at the time.
I see the punch as her frustration of not getting though to them so she snapping or venting plus with Kirino taunting didn't help. Kyousuke taunting like that seemed out out character too.
You could say having him Continuing to play the games all the time is in it's own way manipulative


well the last thing I'll say on her is in the end she seeming still loved them both.
She never talks to the parents or a teacher she keeps in to her self. She didn't want to put them in that spotlight of society. So in that I can't hate her, she made mistakes like all the rest.


I hope my reply's/thoughts are clear not trying to piss people off just ... I guess I'm defending Manami thou I'm not really trying to. Eh, looking at her actions logically would that be it?

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"Kyou-chan is an idiot."

"When you are faced with something you can't do, you could just say 'it can't be helped.' If you don't give up no matter what, maybe someone will call you cool but you won't be happy. Besides, I think that only a special individual could do that. But Kyou-chan is not."
Again, how did she know that Kyousuke is not one of those individual, he want to help other and tried his best , though it might failed, and she want him to abandoned them just because 'it can't be helped", who is right, i will let you decided, a special type of individual, not even genunie psychologist and human resource said that, it's just her biased opininon about quality as a man of Kyousuke. Psychology aside, she say the word Disgust to a child not even reach puberty yet,
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I see… However, Kirino-chan.

Don't you think it's strange to love your onii-san?

I think it's not only strange. It's weird. Some will think that it's gross, disgusting.

Siblings can't get married. Your parents will surely oppose it.

The truer Kirino's feelings are, if you grow up without changing them, the more misfortune it will bring for someone.
This is unavoidable. No one, not even Kyou-chan, can change it.

Not the current Kyou-chan — not the same Kyou-chan that Kirino loves.

Because, Kirino's ideal 'amazing onii-san' didn't exist.
That's why, Kirino.

You mustn't tell those feelings to anyone.

Hurry up and forget them, and make up with your real onii-san.

Please come back — and become a normal pair of siblings
same thing as above, who or what give her the right to barge in their relationship. "Kirino's ideal 'amazing onii-san' didn't exist" no, he do as what he have done is undeniable, even if he change, his ego still return at the end and he almost back to the old Kyousuke. Again, how did she know that who the real Kyousuke is, she is not Lacian and more to that, the super-kyousuke is more real than the peace loving one, as he retun gradually with time. "You mustn't tell those feelings to anyone. " - This is just stupid, she is not their parent, not their family and have the guts to spill those word but not the guts to admit that fact to Kyousuke or try to clean her own mess, shower a child with Gross and disgusting,, those word are more fitting for her.
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Old 2013-06-14, 10:32   Link #3527
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same thing as above, who or what give her the right to barge in their relationship. "Kirino's ideal 'amazing onii-san' didn't exist" no, he do as what he have done is undeniable, even if he change, his ego still return at the end and he almost back to the old Kyousuke.
Well, not fully. He found a balance between his old boastful self and the peace-loving self. It is stated in I think chapter 3 or 4 that both are part of who he is. You can put it that way, that due to Manami's intervention a normal balancing out of Kyousuke's character was prevented and only returned back on track with Kyousuke beginning his life-counseling sessions with Kirino.
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Old 2013-06-14, 10:37   Link #3528
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Well, not fully. He found a balance between his old boastful self and the peace-loving self. It is stated in I think chapter 3 or 4 that both are part of who he is. You can put it that way, that due to Manami's intervention a normal balancing out of Kyousuke's character was prevented and only returned back on track with Kyousuke beginning his life-counseling sessions with Kirino.
i agree with that, my point is, the super-kyousuke, Kirino amazing onii-san do exist as part of kyousuke ego, and Manami outright denied his existance, if he truly didn't exist, then he will never have the guts to do those thing in the 1st place.
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Old 2013-06-14, 10:40   Link #3529
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same thing as above, who or what give her the right to barge in their relationship. "Kirino's ideal 'amazing onii-san' didn't exist" no, he do as what he have done is undeniable, even if he change, his ego still return at the end and he almost back to the old Kyousuke. Again, how did she know that who the real Kyousuke is, she is not Lacian and more to that, the super-kyousuke is more real than the peace loving one, as he retun gradually with time. "You mustn't tell those feelings to anyone. " - This is just stupid, she is not their parent, not their family and have the guts to spill those word but not the guts to admit that fact to Kyousuke or try to clean her own mess, shower a child with Gross and disgusting,, those word are more fitting for her.
The "Manami a shit" train sure is fun to ride on, but she really did have somewhat of a right. Manami was Kyousuke's childhood friend. When Kyousuke's ego was shot down after messing up with Sakurai, Manami couldn't bear seeing him so hurt. She just gave Super-Kyousuke a gentle reminder that he's still human so that he wouldn't be so hot-blooded all the time and get himself hurt again.

This, of course, turned him into peace-loving Kyousuke. But as SigUp said, through the course of Oreimo he is able to find a balance between his old passionate self and his peace-loving self. They are both part of him.
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Old 2013-06-14, 10:43   Link #3530
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With the recent flurry of messages in the forum I am more confused than I was ever before, just to clarify, Kirino and Kyousuke in the epilogue go to Akihabara in an offline meeting and Kirino kissed kyousuke. This means that they are still dating right?
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Old 2013-06-14, 10:52   Link #3531
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With the recent flurry of messages in the forum I am more confused than I was ever before, just to clarify, Kirino and Kyousuke in the epilogue go to Akihabara in an offline meeting and Kirino kissed kyousuke. This means that they are still dating right?
Kyosuke kissed Kirino when they were talking about how go back to "normal siblings", she blushed, ran away and then she said to him: "What are you waiting? Keep pace!" (Tsundere, just tsundere).
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Old 2013-06-14, 10:53   Link #3532
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With the recent flurry of messages in the forum I am more confused than I was ever before, just to clarify, Kirino and Kyousuke in the epilogue go to Akihabara in an offline meeting and Kirino kissed kyousuke. This means that they are still dating right?
Actually its Kyousuke who forced a surprise kiss on Kirino after promising to return being ''normal siblings'',resulting more 'life counseling' back at home. Feel free to guess what next would happen.
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Old 2013-06-14, 10:54   Link #3533
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The "Manami a shit" train sure is fun to ride on, but she really did have somewhat of a right. Manami was Kyousuke's childhood friend. When Kyousuke's ego was shot down after messing up with Sakurai, Manami couldn't bear seeing him so hurt. She just gave Super-Kyousuke a gentle reminder that he's still human so that he wouldn't be so hot-blooded all the time and get himself hurt again.
She did have some reason in her words, but the problem here is that she needlessly intervened. Instead of letting her ride it out she tried to convince Kirino that what she felt was not normal and she should change herself. But Kirino is a person with great determination, so Manami's words had the opposite effect.

As for Kyousuke, if she only gave him a soft reminder, it wouldn't have been bad. But the problem I see is what dragon1412 mentioned. That she used a situation in which Kyousuke was incredibly vulnerable to outright deny the existence of the Kyousuke who loved to take matters into his hands. To use this situation to just eliminate a whole portion of his personality and convince him that he was only a very normal boy.
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Old 2013-06-14, 10:59   Link #3534
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Actually its Kyousuke who forced a surprise kiss on Kirino after promising to return being ''normal siblings'',resulting more 'life counseling' back at home. Feel free to guess what next would happen.
Ohh that clears up so much because previously someone was talking about Kirino's counseling was about limitations or something.
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Old 2013-06-14, 11:03   Link #3535
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Ohh that clears up so much because previously someone was talking about Kirino's counseling was about limitations or something.
About what will they talk about,we have no idea,but I think its kinda obvious but as I said interpret it as you wish.
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Old 2013-06-14, 11:05   Link #3536
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Now THAT is how you do childhood friends. Either be the winner or be THE final boss. Far too many times they were just pushed off to the wayside as if they're a pebble on the road, but this time she's the biggest obstacle. But I guess that is to be expected, as the childhood friend tends to be rival in love to the sister (be they 'real' or 'fake') in these stories, as they provide a good comparison since they essentially share the same history but just with the 'incest' angle attached to it.

And I can't imagine what the other ships are going through right now. At least us Manami fans get our punch as cathartic payback for our consolation prize. Can't wait to see it animated.
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Old 2013-06-14, 11:07   Link #3537
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2ch thread celebrating interview
http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51398941.html

What happened?
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Old 2013-06-14, 11:12   Link #3538
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Ohh that clears up so much because previously someone was talking about Kirino's counseling was about limitations or something.
That is the interpretation of someone, Kirino's counseling could be other thing, you can think that they could be together again in a future or that they gonna be normal siblings. This is no a clear ending and you can't say that your interpretation is better than other.
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Old 2013-06-14, 11:15   Link #3539
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2ch thread celebrating interview
http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51398941.html

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Celebrating? like it clears up or reaffirms peoples position about the ending?
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Old 2013-06-14, 11:20   Link #3540
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same thing as above, who or what give her the right to barge in their relationship.
And who have given Super-Kyousuke right to meddle with other's affairs?
Minami plays exactly same game here, and even on a bit higher ground, she is friend of both Kyousuke and Kirino. Super-Kyousuke have not hesitated to meddle with complete strangers affairs :-)
Sure, she failed, and in very spectacular way, so what?
At exact same time, Kyousuke failed with Sakurai, and in spectacular way too.
Sad, but in real life, sometimes shit happens.
And why she have not fixed her errors? Maybe, scared to mess it up even more (was not Kyousuke in same boat in same period?). And she had limited understanding about what happens with Kirino . And as much omnipotent and omniscient granny she looks sometimes, that image overboasted in same way as Super-Kyousuke image. And when she got better picture, she tried to fix things. And with that, while she failed to reach her goals, but even her failed attempt played to Kirino & Kyousuke glory, so who cares?
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