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Old 2013-07-04, 03:04   Link #61
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The question to me is, if he really pulled the meteor from somewhere in space, or if his power created the meteor itself. (So is it a pull-pull or a meteo-meteo power)
If he can only pull meteors from space, the power is a bit limited, because if there are no meteors (left) to pull, he is out of ammo.

Though I guess in the next chapter he will explain about the power.

But there is one question which still remains: Is it his power, or the power of his sword?
I think gravity based makes more sense because of the demonstration of power at the roulette table.

But anyways, I was also thinking if the power is related to his sword because he unsheathed it back then.
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And we once again have a masterful throwback to an arc hundreds of chapters earlier... this is why out of what were the Big Three (One Piece, Naruto, Bleach), One Piece is the only one that I actually follow, since Oda actually knows what the heck he's doing.
That's true! One Piece is so well planned and even more fun to read. Oda wasn't hasty to develop the story or any of the characters. For example Blackbeard's name was first mentioned around chapter 130 when the Mugiwaras where in the Drum Empire. He first appeared approximately 100 chapters later in Jaya and made his way to Shichibukai to become one of the main villains until the war at Marineford.

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Old 2013-07-04, 12:31   Link #62
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And whoops, nearly forgot to comment on the ministory! So yeah, like I've been saying last thread, Caribou=asshat.
We already know how much of a asshat he is. From selling mermaids, to leaving his crew behide when they went to save him from the marines and now leaving the poor old lady to die. I wonder if Drake-X will come to save her. Speaking of him could this mean he lost the fight with the mecha guy thats blowing up the camp.


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Fujitaro a gravity devil fruit user? If this is real, then his ability have infinite range of thing he could pull? I mean, meteorite if in outer space and he could pull that far? Unlike Law who have some kind of range for his ability, Fujitaro range seems infinity! There must be a limitation otherwise, he coul rain meteorite all over.
Perhaps limit to one 'item' being pull at a time?

I some how feel that Violet will betray Sanji for the bigger gain. Sanji is giving too much information out. Hmm...
For the time being it seems to be gravity based. Seeing how he can pull things from space as well as create holes and pull anything within that hole down. Based off the last time we saw it being able to pull things towards the hole as well to some degree. The one "item" at a time does sound like a good draw back. I would guess it also comes down to the weight and size of the item as well. As he was able to pull down 6+ henchmen that where small compard to the Meteor.

I also feel that Violet could betray him. It could be that Dolfa is getting all the strewhats to go to the toy factory and then plan to ambush them in one sweep. Because why else would he lure Luffy with the mera mera fruit.

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The question to me is, if he really pulled the meteor from somewhere in space, or if his power created the meteor itself. (So is it a pull-pull or a meteo-meteo power)
If he can only pull meteors from space, the power is a bit limited, because if there are no meteors (left) to pull, he is out of ammo.

Though I guess in the next chapter he will explain about the power.

But there is one question which still remains: Is it his power, or the power of his sword?
Pull pull or gravity based as meteor was not shown at the casio place. Plus so far it seem to be his sword is doing all the work. As when ever he has used his power he has been shown to take out his sword and twist it around or take it out from its cover.
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Old 2013-07-04, 13:26   Link #63
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Bwahaahah, Ussop, don't you know lying gets you into bad situations?

Love his face at the end
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Old 2013-07-04, 13:31   Link #64
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Why the hell didn't Law just lie to the admiral?

I mean, he's just been suuuper deceived by Doflamingo, and he's a damn pirate, should've just said "Sure, the Straw Hats are my subordinates"...
You seem to forget Laws original plan. It is not defeat Doflamingo but to destroy the factory. Law does not care for CC or Doflamingo or the Admiral. He wants to take down an Emperor and the first thing he has to do for it is to destroy the Factory. Laws mind told you the reason why he didn’t lie. If he lied he still would have to face Doflamingo but the Admiral would go after the straw hats on Dressrosa and this is exactly what he doesn’t want. So he is basically buying time for the strawhats to destroy the factory. You shouldn’t forget that Law can teleport himself. So he probably can get out from there without much of a problem.
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Old 2013-07-04, 18:17   Link #65
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For the first time ever, we see Doflamingo genuinely concerned in battle. And his string ability is becoming all the more apparent. Fujitora's ability is most likely a paramecia, so as said already by Grey, it'd be nice if Ryokugyuu has a zoan ability for the sake of diversity. We need to see more zoan users in general.

Ussop's lies were gold in this chapter. Never change Ussop; that's why you're awesome .
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Old 2013-07-04, 18:23   Link #66
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One thing is certain Admiral Akainu should be deformed after the fight with Aokiji...
Aokiji lost the fight and he looks fine. So why would Akainu look worst then Aokiji.
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Old 2013-07-04, 18:33   Link #67
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^ Aokiji lost his left leg (he uses an ice prosthetic now) and his right side (from his neck down to his hand) got badly burned. So it's very likely that Akainu also suffered some permanent damage (probably not as bad as Aokiji did though).
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Old 2013-07-04, 19:02   Link #68
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I don't see why there wasn't a few chapters for Aokiji vs Akainu fight. Would have been good to see two Admerals fight each other. Instead of just saying they fought, their battle ground ended up like this and this person won.
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Old 2013-07-04, 19:29   Link #69
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^Well, we didn't really need to see their fight. We're already familiar with their abilities, after all. And the important thing to remember is that it was the results of the fight that mattered. Maybe we'll get a flashback that shows their fight in detail, but we already knew for a long time that the both of them were monstrously powerful individuals.



Besides, now we gotta focus on the new blood! And so far, Fujitora most definitely has proven that he has the kind of power worthy of an admiral. Really makes me look forward to Ryokugyuu's eventual appearance even more.....



And one more thing: I'm wondering if Isshou had a past with Sakazuki prior to joining the marines? I'm bringing this up because last chapter Fuji referred to him as "Saka-san", which sounds like a pretty casual way to refer to his superior, IMO. Maybe both of the new admirals already had experience in law enforcement/military affairs before the skip (like as bounty hunters, police officers, or commanders in a country's private military, etc.)....?
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Old 2013-07-04, 20:06   Link #70
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Jinbei and Ace fought for multiple days... Aokiji and Akainu fought for multiple days... Luffy, I hope it is your turn soon!
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Old 2013-07-04, 22:57   Link #71
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why I always remember Dalton everytime words Green and Bull appear

well he is a king, ate Bison DF not exactly Bull, and very less likely to become an Admiral though

probably...
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Old 2013-07-05, 01:18   Link #72
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Pull pull or gravity based as meteor was not shown at the casio place.
We didn't see a meteor at the casino, that's correct. But it doesn't necessarily mean that there was no meteor. We only saw the result: A huge hole. Similar to the situation now. It could be possible, that the casino was hit by a meteor and we just didn't see it, because everyone was inside and didn't see it coming.


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You seem to forget Laws original plan. It is not defeat Doflamingo but to destroy the factory. Law does not care for CC or Doflamingo or the Admiral. He wants to take down an Emperor and the first thing he has to do for it is to destroy the Factory. Laws mind told you the reason why he didn’t lie. If he lied he still would have to face Doflamingo but the Admiral would go after the straw hats on Dressrosa and this is exactly what he doesn’t want. So he is basically buying time for the strawhats to destroy the factory. You shouldn’t forget that Law can teleport himself. So he probably can get out from there without much of a problem.
IMHO this doesn't make sense. Why should the Admiral go after the Straw Hats.
He explicitly told Law, that everything is fine if the Straw Hats were his subordinatos. So if Law lied, the SH were safe as well.
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Old 2013-07-05, 01:35   Link #73
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Something tells me there could be another Poneglyph on this island. Seems to be linked to Sypiea.

Also can Oda please move on from Caribou? His lame ass cover stories are getting pretty boring. Maybe add some on Jinbei or Smoker.
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Old 2013-07-05, 01:37   Link #74
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We didn't see a meteor at the casino, that's correct. But it doesn't necessarily mean that there was no meteor. We only saw the result: A huge hole. Similar to the situation now. It could be possible, that the casino was hit by a meteor and we just didn't see it, because everyone was inside and didn't see it coming.


Uh... I'm pretty sure that if a meteor hit the casino, it would have been noticed. I mean, even a small one would have undoubtedly left a big honking hole in the roof, wouldn't you think?



Anyway, I'm about 99.9% certain that Fujitora's power is gravity-based. When he used his power at the casino, one of the thugs even commented on how he felt he was being crushed by a heavy pressure. And considering how we saw nothing tangible crushing the thugs, I think we can rule out an invisible meteor or whatever hitting the casino.




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IMHO this doesn't make sense. Why should the Admiral go after the Straw Hats.
He explicitly told Law, that everything is fine if the Straw Hats were his subordinatos. So if Law lied, the SH were safe as well.


It was already explained that Law was buying some time. If Law lied, Fujitora would have eventually found out the truth anyway, and would make it priority #1 to hunt down all of the allied pirates. And I think it would be a wee bit difficult to carry out the factory destruction mission when you've got an admiral on your tail.....
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Old 2013-07-05, 06:17   Link #75
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just say, please go read the other 712 chapters of One Piece to find out why Luffy can't swim.
I know about the dumb curse that makes no sense at all.He doesn't even need to swim actually,just float.He breathes he can float.How do think the boat works.He's made out of rubber,that would make him an excellent life raft.
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Old 2013-07-05, 07:04   Link #76
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I know about the dumb curse that makes no sense at all.He doesn't even need to swim actually,just float.He breathes he can float.How do think the boat works.He's made out of rubber,that would make him an excellent life raft.
Sense?
As in common sense?
There is none. Besides even if it was more grounded in reality "curses" (more like side effects) are common in pirate stories and their myths. Stories about the Kraken, Davy Jones and the flying Dutchman are filled with them.

Also as of yet we do not know the origins of the devil fruits nor their exact workings. So it's a bit stupid to call something dumb without knowing all there is to it.

Any way the main reason Luffy can't just float is because the sea water saps away his strength. Thus the moment he touches water he slowly loses his strength to sustain his rubber body and thus deflates. (If someone would put a hose in him and keeps pumping air into his body he should technically be able to stay afloat).

Then there's the unexplained hammer effect (not being able to swim). Which might tie in with the devils inside devil fruit users (devils disliking water and sealing anything related to swimming or floating). However that's just speculating on what little we know.

So in universe with what we know it makes perfect sense for Luffy not being able to swim or float


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The new translation somewhat redeems Fujitora. I hope he´ll make a full turn around before the end of the arc.
I wonder how Usopp´s lie is going to turn out... Will he actually proof himself a hero in their eyes or is he in for a world of pain.
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Old 2013-07-05, 11:00   Link #77
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The new translation somewhat redeems Fujitora. I hope he´ll make a full turn around before the end of the arc.
I wonder how Usopp´s lie is going to turn out... Will he actually proof himself a hero in their eyes or is he in for a world of pain.
Well seeing how Norland was able to help them out and has been known to lie. I don't see why Usopp wouldn't do then same. All he has too do is stand in the right place at the right time. Besides they are very trust worthy and really believe Usopp. Sure he is not the strongest but he does know how to give prep talks and loyal to his crew. Soo if the little people are in need of a prep talk or would be seen that they where about to die Usopp is clearly going to save them. Which would in their eyes further fuel their trust in him
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Old 2013-07-05, 11:09   Link #78
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Well seeing how Norland was able to help them out and has been known to lie. I don't see why Usopp wouldn't do then same. All he has too do is stand in the right place at the right time. Besides they are very trust worthy and really believe Usopp. Sure he is not the strongest but he does know how to give prep talks and loyal to his crew. Soo if the little people are in need of a prep talk or would be seen that they where about to die Usopp is clearly going to save them. Which would in their eyes further fuel their trust in him
Yeah I guess, he might just stick to his lie.
It might even turn out to be his great new world debut (similar to the Mr 4 fight). Though that nearly did him in.... so I don't know if he really goes that far so soon
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Old 2013-07-05, 12:50   Link #79
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What a chapter.

A world wide conscription is a really good idea, I'm sure the other admiral is a beast as well. It's nice to see how every single group has found their own way to get to the factory. Similar to how Law, DD and Fujitori each have their own way to avoid the meteor that was coming crashing at them.

Fujitori's comment that he wanted to test out his powers raised an eye brow. He is trained to fight, perhaps he has never been against ridiculously strong opponents and never had to use his DF power to that extreme.

Usopp's core character came out strong and it is perfect. Wonder if there is something for Robin to discover on, maybe a poneglyph the tontatta are protecting..

Was franky confused for a toy?!? :P

I wonder which members of the DD family are attacking the strawhat ship..
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I wonder if Green Bull will be first admiral without a devil fruit ability. The fact that he's called Bull suggests that he's a big man, probably with a lot of muscles, who likes to get into people's faces during battle. To further support this concept, Oda might chose to make him a Rokushiki and armament Haki master. With sufficient power in those areas and just his general physical prowess alone, he may be able to keep up with the other admirals even without a devil fruit.

On the other hand, Vergo was supposed to be very adept in armament Haki, and look where it got him. In addition, having an admiral without a df would be a combo breaker, though certainly not a bad one in my opinion. But first we have to see if my initial suspection of him being a big bulky guy is right in the first place.
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