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Old 2013-07-08, 20:32   Link #681
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Always online BUT on certain games

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These guys are pretty bad. Not only did they not note that theses always-online games use the none-too populous MMO model, but they went "it's the future", implying that any gamers that don't have reliable internet can take a hike.

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I know, but I really don't care about the free games to be honest. Itwould be a hassle to download all the free games considering how subpar my download speeds are. I just want my free multiplayer.
That's really too bad. You'll still have free multiplayer for most (all?) free-to-play games and media functions though. For you, the paid-only multiplayer games will be restricted to just retail games. It still sort of sucks though.
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Old 2013-07-08, 20:48   Link #682
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That's some really fail logic coming from the machinima crew.

The division + the crew always online = all next gen games people will play are always online.

Then there's their "pros" point on always online. Play anywhere is simply not true, especially for console-only games. At the end of the day you are NOT going to be able to play any next gen games on your phone (LOL they seriously suggested this?) or even on an ipad (on the bus, huh?). Yea sure, go play a console-only game on your iphone/ipad using touch screen. Lets not even talk about playing always online console-only games on the PC (because clearly PC gamers get all the games thanks to always online, right?).

At best you could do minor stuff like manage your resources or play a mini-game on your mobile devices, but them seriously suggesting access to the actual games via mobile devices?

Brilliant (fail) logic there.
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Old 2013-07-08, 21:21   Link #683
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Delicious.
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Old 2013-07-09, 11:20   Link #684
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lol @ diminishing returns.

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Old 2013-07-09, 14:42   Link #685
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I dun get it
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Old 2013-07-09, 16:32   Link #686
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Her face is too big or what?
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Old 2013-07-09, 16:43   Link #687
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lol @ diminishing returns.

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Old 2013-07-09, 17:06   Link #688
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It is suppose to refer to graphics having diminishing returns ?
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Old 2013-07-09, 19:47   Link #689
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It is suppose to refer to graphics having diminishing returns ?
No idea, though it is interesting that there is a female character in Killzone. Hey Chaos, any news of anymore new exclusives on the PS4? I checked a lot of stuff on the net, there isn't a peep out of anybody.
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Old 2013-07-09, 19:49   Link #690
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No idea, though it is interesting that there is a female character in Killzone. Hey Chaos, any news of anymore new exclusives on the PS4? I checked a lot of stuff on the net, there isn't a peep out of anybody.
Well... There's this little curiosity...




PlayStation Facebook teases ‘When Worlds Collide’
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Old 2013-07-09, 19:52   Link #691
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PlayStation Facebook teases ‘When Worlds Collide’
I am guessing that is not the actual title, it seems like Playstation is doing a great job keeping things under wraps this time around.
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Old 2013-07-09, 19:57   Link #692
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There's also this... Although it's for PS3...


Suda51 Teams Up With Namco Bandai And Akira Creator For New PS3 Game




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The game is based on Akira creator Katsuhiro Otomo’s upcoming film, Short Peace, which will play in theaters later this month. The film is made up of four short films with different styles and stories, directed by Otomo and others. Ranko Tsukigime’s Longest Day will be considered the fifth short story of the film, but it’s a video game.
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Old 2013-07-09, 20:34   Link #693
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I am guessing that is not the actual title, it seems like Playstation is doing a great job keeping things under wraps this time around.
I read an article that says it could be a tease for the PS4's release date, for november 3. Reason because a solar eclipse will be occurring on that day.
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Old 2013-07-09, 20:35   Link #694
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It is suppose to refer to graphics having diminishing returns ?
There were a number of people who claimed that graphics on the PS3, 360 and Wii U had gotten about as good as they were going to get, and that any more visual power would only lead to diminishing returns. The popular visual example of this was an image showing less and less difference as it was created using more and more polygons. Obviously, this isn't true as there's always more that can be done in terms of texture quality, anti-aliasing, draw distance, lighting and so on.
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Old 2013-07-10, 11:27   Link #695
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I don't think that gaming consoles will end soon.. But I do believe that tablets, cellphones, for games are increasing there market as well.. So maybe a time would come, but I don't think it's way too soon as SOON..
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Old 2013-07-10, 11:57   Link #696
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I don't think that gaming consoles will end soon.. But I do believe that tablets, cellphones, for games are increasing there market as well.. So maybe a time would come, but I don't think it's way too soon as SOON..
They're increasing because there was a market and it wasn't exploited before they came along. They're not actually affecting consoles, pcs, etc, since it's hardly the same market. At best they're affecting flash sites and facebook games. And if they were so popular as people claim why aren't they putting books into extinction?

I have a tablet. I bouth Mtg2014 recently. Guess what, I got it on my PC as well. Because (a) online, (b) I want to play on a big screen too (tablets will always be small), (c) infinite power supply. Admittingly online is more of self imposed limitation on the game but if I'm at home and I have a big screen why would I play on a tiny one. Tablets are also a commodity, PC's are universally useful, and for gamers consoles are infinitely more useful by comparison and virtually the same price.

Phone and Tablet games are also mostly garbage too. So like I said it's unlikely people subscribed to the pc/console market are actually moving to tablets and phones, it's more that people that would otherwise not game at all previously are now creating a market. This generalization of everyone into one big lump is likely the same failed logic that lead microsoft to the xbone.
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Old 2013-07-10, 12:21   Link #697
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I think that tablet and smartphone games do erode the handheld and casual audience. For a lot of people in these groups, a minor game that can serve as a diversion will be enough to satisfy them. It will hurt the Vita, 3DS, and general Nintendo audience especially as parents can let their kids play games without having to shell out for a dedicated gaming device.

However, it still won't do much to affect the home console market as those gamers are looking for experiences that mostly can't be fulfilled by tablets and so on. A good indication of this is that only two major publishers are doing very much in this space: EA because they bought into the market, and Square Enix because they're struggling to find a reliable revenue stream. The likely upswing is that the Wii U, PS4 and Xbone are likely to sell less aggregate than the Wii, PS3, and 360. However, the amount of AAA and non-casual games sold will probably stay about the same. There will be some losses from casual gamer purchases, but they will be made up for by the growth in the market. The biggest danger here is the migration of gamers to the PC.

Of course, all bets are off if China decides to open its doors to game consoles.
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Old 2013-07-10, 12:31   Link #698
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The only thing it'd affect on handhelds is shovelware. Like felix said, most of those games are crap. If you just want a distraction, sure, they work. But most people, even children (or perhaps, especially children) want certain things from games. Real games. And that's what the likes of Nintendo and Sony are for.
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Old 2013-07-10, 12:38   Link #699
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I think that tablet and smartphone games do erode the handheld and casual audience. For a lot of people in these groups, a minor game that can serve as a diversion will be enough to satisfy them. It will hurt the Vita, 3DS, and general Nintendo audience especially as parents can let their kids play games without having to shell out for a dedicated gaming device.
Just a minor quibble: I don't think the Vita should be particularly affected by the migration of casuals from handhelds to tablets and phones mostly because the PSP crowd just wasn't casual to begin with. Most people who bought into the PSP were the so-called core gamers that are looking for RPGs and Platformers. At least that was the impression that I got from the system and the Vita, even with all it's gimmicks, doesn't seem to particularly break the mold when compared to it's predecessor.

The 3DS (and whatever comes next from Nintendo) on the other hand is going to suffer pretty hard with this shift. A good chunk of the DS player base were casuals playing stuff like Brain Training and alike and those are rather swift to switch to the more useful phones and tablets that can do those games as well as browse the web, look at videos, listen to music, amongst other things.

Also: note that laptop sales have been affected by the growth in tablets. It's not just a myth. Plenty of people feel perfectly comfortable with a purely consumption device like a Tablet and, when time comes to buy hardware, choose to buy one when they would previously go for a laptop. This is aided by the fact that in the last 5 years or so computers have gotten "good enough" for most people and are starting to become useful for longer periods of time. Before you would feel the need to replace your computer in around 4/5 years time but now you can probably go 8 without a new computer or even 10 if it was particularly well specced to begin with. It parallels what happened with the current generation of consoles actually (PS3/360) where they managed to outlast virtually every other console cycle because everyone felt they were "good enough" for quite some time now.

People may joke about that "diminishing returns" line but it was true for quite a long time this generation. Sure you can add extra post-processing effects and the current crop of consoles were particularly struggling for memory to pull off stuff like full 60fps 1080p, better textures and better anti-aliasing algorithms but fixing those things 2/3 years ago would make the new consoles probably as ridiculously priced as the PS3 was at launch (or worst).

People may not have noticed but from 2008 onwards or so we went through a price hike in all kinds of memories. Tablets, Smartphones and the move from spinning disks to SSD put quite a burden on the world supply of memory chips and prices sky-rocketed because of it. It's probably why Sony was originally considering only 4GB or ram for the PS4 I reckon.
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Old 2013-07-10, 12:49   Link #700
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PlayStation Facebook teases ‘When Worlds Collide’


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