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Old 2013-07-12, 12:21   Link #81
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Jotaro's stand attacks are physical or else Dio would havel left for good -.-

Btw, Accelerator's reflection is always on auto, and has a filter for things even he doesn't notices.
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Old 2013-07-12, 12:58   Link #82
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Accelerator is one of the most powerful characters in any series (probably).

Well now that Railgun episode 14 happened and mentioned something important all I'm going to say is this:

Spoiler for Railgun S episode 14:


Many Raildex Characters are insanely powerful actually compared to other series.
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Old 2013-07-12, 13:42   Link #83
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Cross universe stuff never works. The mechanics and laws behind them are way too vague to give any real comparison.

Try keeping it to ways Accelerator can be defeated that isn't a Light Novel character not seen yet.
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Old 2013-07-12, 14:32   Link #84
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Cross universe stuff never works. The mechanics and laws behind them are way too vague to give any real comparison.

Try keeping it to ways Accelerator can be defeated that isn't a Light Novel character not seen yet.
That reminds of the "Can shiki kill..." threads elsewhere =/
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Old 2013-07-12, 14:40   Link #85
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That reminds of the "Can shiki kill..." threads elsewhere =/
In this universe, both Shiki are fodder .
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Old 2013-07-12, 19:19   Link #86
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Jotaro's stand attacks are physical or else Dio would havel left for good -.-

Btw, Accelerator's reflection is always on auto, and has a filter for things even he doesn't notices.
Ah, but there is one thing Accelerator would be HELPLESS against; Star Platinum's ability to stop time and still be able to attack while reality stops for 3 seconds.

Sure, he might be able to reflect Jotaro's attacks when time flows normally; but all JoJo needs to do is invoke "The World", leap forth and attack in safety as reality stops, and pretty-boy would suddenly blink and sheepishly wonder "what the fuck are all these fist sized holes doing across my body" before falling down to Hell where he belongs.
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Old 2013-07-12, 20:31   Link #87
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Ah, but there is one thing Accelerator would be HELPLESS against; Star Platinum's ability to stop time and still be able to attack while reality stops for 3 seconds.

Sure, he might be able to reflect Jotaro's attacks when time flows normally; but all JoJo needs to do is invoke "The World", leap forth and attack in safety as reality stops, and pretty-boy would suddenly blink and sheepishly wonder "what the fuck are all these fist sized holes doing across my body" before falling down to Hell where he belongs.
If someone stopped time in Raildex verse, it would immediately start again. The reason, I don't care to say. Lets just say that whatever you try will not work unless "someone else" is willing for it to work. If you say you will kill him, it won't happen. Sorry. It's impossible. Blow up the universe, it still will somehow not kill him. Anyway... moving on to reasonable attempts at defeating him:

Well he has some pretty messed up conceptions, right?
Spoiler for Railgun S episode 15 hint:
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Old 2013-07-13, 04:33   Link #88
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In this universe, both Shiki are fodder .
Nasu's waifu and self-insert are hurt by that.

@Yui, lot 'o fan-wanking you're doing there.
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Old 2013-07-13, 13:01   Link #89
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If accelerator goes to one piece world as Vector Vector no Mi, is he still unbeatable? -_-
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Old 2013-07-14, 03:40   Link #90
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If accelerator goes to one piece world as Vector Vector no Mi, is he still unbeatable? -_-
No. But that's because the quality of One Piece physics are to Index's carefully defined physics what the quality of Dragon ball GT was to the quality of Volumes 19 and 22 of Index OT
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Old 2013-07-15, 03:20   Link #91
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So, teleporting an object into Accelerator won't work because teleportation also have vector. But what will happen if Awai tries to use her power to teleport Accelerator into an object? Can he resist/reflect the teleportation power in that way?


Fun question: What will happen if they replace Loki with Accelerator in the Avenger movie?
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Old 2013-07-15, 03:48   Link #92
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So, teleporting an object into Accelerator won't work because teleportation also have vector. But what will happen if Awai tries to use her power to teleport Accelerator into an object? Can he resist/reflect the teleportation power in that way?


Fun question: What will happen if they replace Loki with Accelerator in the Avenger movie?
Well...
Spoiler for Index season II details about the first question with Awaki:


Though if you consider an 11 dimensional vector from point A to point B ... (I do math remember)
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Old 2013-07-15, 05:37   Link #93
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actually in the greater scope of the Index verse Accel ( Sister arc) ability while unique is out of his league compared with a lot of insanely OP individuals in magic side
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Old 2013-07-15, 11:29   Link #94
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actually in the greater scope of the Index verse Accel ( Sister arc) ability while unique is out of his league compared with a lot of insanely OP individuals in magic side
Again Light Novel characters for the most part havn't been revealed in their full scope and powers. Try keeping those guys out of this thread.

Anyone who has read the Light Novel knows full well that Accelerator is far from invincible and could be instantly killed by some.
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Old 2013-07-15, 11:37   Link #95
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If a Level-ZERO bookworm like Kihara could beat albino-sociopath into a bloody pulp just by knowing the EXACT moment of when to pull his punches so his fists get sucked into Accelerator by his powers, then a Wing-Chun Kung-Fu master who has an even stronger degree of control over his fists would absolutely destroy the little bastard.
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Old 2013-07-15, 12:01   Link #96
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If a Level-ZERO bookworm like Kihara could beat albino-sociopath into a bloody pulp just by knowing the EXACT moment of when to pull his punches so his fists get sucked into Accelerator by his powers, then a Wing-Chun Kung-Fu master who has an even stronger degree of control over his fists would absolutely destroy the little bastard.
Doesn't work like that. You need the exact calculations of when and how to pull your punches. A random Kung-Fu Master with no concept of such is incapable of doing what Kihara did.

It's something only Kihara Amata is capable of doing since he was studying Accelerator for years.
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Old 2013-07-15, 12:24   Link #97
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If a Level-ZERO bookworm like Kihara could beat albino-sociopath into a bloody pulp just by knowing the EXACT moment of when to pull his punches so his fists get sucked into Accelerator by his powers, then a Wing-Chun Kung-Fu master who has an even stronger degree of control over his fists would absolutely destroy the little bastard.
Someone tried, and got his hand twisted despite being a master ninja .
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Old 2013-07-15, 19:35   Link #98
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In general there are a few methods one could use to defeat Accelerator:
*Use his reflection against him; Requires intricate knowledge of his Personal Reality and/or superhuman reflexes. Personally, while I think this is theoretically possible, actually implementing it is completely ridiculous.

*attack him directly with vectors he cannot grasp (not inputted in his Personal Reality); Very rare. Not an option for Mikoto.

*attack him indirectly through other means which bypass his reflection eg Food Poisoning etc; The Sisters eventually manage to find a rather effective method of doing so...

*attack with phenomenon which do not function through vectors ie vectorless attacks; I will leave this to your imagination... To my knowledge, not an option for Mikoto

*attack the very foundation of his ability (AIM, Personal Reality); includes but is not limited to Kamijou Touma's Imagine Breaker. Capacity Down would also be an effective strategy against him. Not an option for Mikoto

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Old 2013-07-15, 20:29   Link #99
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Hmm, then someone like Shao-Li, the cold-eyed Taiwanese killer from Noir would be absolutely lethal here.

She has an acquired personal immunity against a poisonous incense she likes to light when she needs to make a kill subtle. It is odorless, tasteless and lethal as cyanide to those who have not acquired her immunity.

Somehow Lure Accelerator into a Buddhist temple, where the presence if incense is Expected and won't be suspected, watch him start doubling over in a minute or two, and pull out your knife...
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Old 2013-07-15, 21:31   Link #100
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Hmm, then someone like Shao-Li, the cold-eyed Taiwanese killer from Noir would be absolutely lethal here.

She has an acquired personal immunity against a poisonous incense she likes to light when she needs to make a kill subtle. It is odorless, tasteless and lethal as cyanide to those who have not acquired her immunity.

Somehow Lure Accelerator into a Buddhist temple, where the presence if incense is Expected and won't be suspected, watch him start doubling over in a minute or two, and pull out your knife...
Nah he would just fly away. Also pulling a knife on him would just be stupid.

If you want to use poison, carbon monoxide while he sleeps would be the best thing to do.
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