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Old 2013-07-13, 15:40   Link #3661
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A thought on Saki vs. Awai.

When Awai does her thing, she declares a double riichi and then kans at the corner then discards and waits to ron on someone. We also know that Saki knows what's in the wall and likes to rinshan kaihou, tsumoing on the tile she just drew from the dead wall. Awai, however, will discard that tile (and can't keep it if she's doing her double riichi).

As such... if Saki can build her hand in time for the kan, doesn't this mean Saki can easily ron off that tile? I mean, she'd be building that hand anyway... If she thinks Awai will get there first, instead of the kan she'd make to get the dead wall tile, she can just keep it as a pon and ron Awai's discard.
Saki doesn't always win with rinshan kaihou though, sometimes she uses it to help build her hand. The more kans Saki makes the more ura-dora Awai gets.
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Old 2013-07-13, 16:49   Link #3662
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Errr... not really. I agree with tjal on this one.

Awai's power is this.
When she calls a kan, those will become the four dora she needs. Thus, really it is only the FIRST FOUR URA DORA that is covered by Awai's power. If Saki calls for more, it will open another dora indicator but it does not necessarily mean that those ura dora will be in Awai's hand. It can be in another person hands or Saki's hand. That and I find it highly unlikely that Saki will call more kans if she knows that it will only make another player's hand raise value.

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Looks at Quarter's match
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Looks at the second to the last hand specifically Kyouko's ...

Well, unless its part of her plan or she wants that player to win.
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Old 2013-07-14, 01:33   Link #3663
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Saki most likely won't be able to build her hand in time for the kan because of Awai's 5-6 shanten. After Awai declares her kan and discards Saki's winning tile, Saki's hand becomes crippled.
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Old 2013-07-14, 02:16   Link #3664
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Actually about that, it is possible for Saki to win in 3 shanten.

Anyway, this is only a specific scenario assuming that Saki will have her winning tile on the dead wall which Awai will draw. Its more likely it isn't, unless Saki specifically aimed for it. Admittedly, there is a high chance that Saki will do it. In my rewatch, Saki actually got making your opponent's ability do the work for you in artform. Besides, the scenario is more or less moot, the person that Awai will be focusing on is Shizu and not Saki. Awai did have that big declaration of defeating her a 100 times in the finals.

BTW, I just realized. Your avatar is cute and I still haven't seen that picture. Did you draw it?
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Old 2013-07-14, 20:29   Link #3665
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I've been doing some research and I have a feeling Awai, Shizu, Saki and whoever advances to the finals with them are somehow connected with the Plum, Orchid, Bamboo and Chrysanthemum tiles.

No, I found it online.
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Old 2013-07-15, 01:32   Link #3666
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So then, any thoughts on how far Zenkoku-hen is going to cover? I have a feeling that it's going to go up to the end of the semis. If that goes well we'll probably have a one cour season 3 to cover the finals.

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Old 2013-07-15, 02:08   Link #3667
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I've been doing some research and I have a feeling Awai, Shizu, Saki and whoever advances to the finals with them are somehow connected with the Plum, Orchid, Bamboo and Chrysanthemum tiles.
Ok so plum, orchid, bamboo, and chrysanthemum are the four chinese noble plants... but what is that gotta do with awai shizu saki and the other one... .__. ?
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Old 2013-07-15, 05:12   Link #3668
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Saki - Teru connection that some teams are speculating on...

In QF, Saki uses a kan to unlock a dora indicator for Kyouko, giving her hand more dora.

In SF, although Toki focuses on the more flashy 'rinshan kaihou,' Teru actually does the same as Saki. She unlocks a dora indicator for *another* player, which gives Kuro's hand more dora.

Of course, they have quite different reasons for doing so (like two sides of one coin) but the mechanic is the same.
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Old 2013-07-15, 14:24   Link #3669
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So then, any thoughts on how far Zenkoku-hen is going to cover? I have a feeling that it's going to go up to the end of the semis. If that goals well we'll probably have a one cour season 3 to cover the finals.
I think its probably as you say. They even bothered to give Satoha a voice so I can't see why they wouldn't.
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Old 2013-07-16, 04:03   Link #3670
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That's an interesting finding... but what is represented by Orchid by the way?
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Old 2013-07-16, 14:04   Link #3671
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The Orchid is sometimes described as the mirror of the Plum Blossoms always trying to take the place of or fill in the gap of something missing but doesn't fully succeed. Like the plum blossom, its fragrance is never overpowering, symbolizing humility and nobility.

Maybe Awai is trying to substitute Saki in Teru's life.

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Old 2013-07-16, 21:30   Link #3672
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Awai: Arrgoant, snobbish, and condescending girl who thinks she's the best thing since sliced bread with the exception of Teru.

Saki: Meek, passive, and socially awkward girl who can trip over nothing and be mistaken as a doormat when she's not on rare occasions making girls piss themselves when she walks by.

Not too much in comparison there really unless Awai is the girl Teru wishes Saki would be? No...I still can't see it.
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Old 2013-07-17, 04:59   Link #3673
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Hum maybe not Saki, but the girl in the wheel chair? I swear I seen some fan-art of it before...

Maybe~ Maybe not~
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Old 2013-07-17, 07:46   Link #3674
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i think in the captain match, awai, saki, and the other player will become the players who fighting tightly. shizu is the netral person because she is superior in the defense rather than attack. Based on this, shizu will be the second. Then, the winner from among the three players it will be a champion.
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Old 2013-07-18, 10:58   Link #3675
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As we have told people a million times over; linking to scanlation sites is not allowed. Do not try to pass along info or hints about those sites either, else you'll risk a ban from the forum.
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Old 2013-07-23, 21:27   Link #3676
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Seems it'll be a pro spinoff we're getting called Side story of -Saki- Shinohayu: The dawn of age.
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Old 2013-07-23, 21:32   Link #3677
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Ladies and gentlemen, it's official.

Spoiler for Spinoff info:


Well, it seems king and I are in synch tonight.
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Old 2013-07-23, 21:33   Link #3678
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Yes! yes! yes!
Pro spin-off!

And it also confirmed what we long speculated.

Spoiler for ....:
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Old 2013-07-23, 21:34   Link #3679
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Hmm....interesting. This has potential, will have to hear more, but this could go places.
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Old 2013-07-23, 21:42   Link #3680
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Yes! yes! yes!
Pro spin-off!

And it also confirmed what we long speculated.

Spoiler for ....:
Spoiler for Spoiler:
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