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View Poll Results: Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai NEXT - Episode 12 (End) Rating
Perfect 10 30 28.30%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 39 36.79%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 15 14.15%
7 out of 10 : Good 9 8.49%
6 out of 10 : Average 8 7.55%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 2 1.89%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 3 2.83%
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Old 2013-04-03, 01:44   Link #201
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True its sad, but it makes sense for her character, how she deals with the developments in the club is what will make or break her relationship with everyone else.

If you think about it, it actually looks like Yozora is running away from the the club just like Kodaka did and is just as conflicted as he was, if that picture she kept with her and her statements in the previous episodes are any indication then I think we can safely say Yozora also values the time she spent with everyone (regardless of what she says).
Proven when Rika got sick and she decided to cancel the show for the reason that she wants the whole club to watch their movie before others. No one left behind, i guess.
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Old 2013-04-03, 15:32   Link #202
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*Still votes for a Rika route end*

+ Rika the entire reason why this season was so fun.
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Old 2013-04-03, 23:44   Link #203
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Oh hi, I'm new here. Any ways, I watched the entire second season and thought it was pretty good, ending for Yozora was a little odd so even though it will take a year or two for it to return I still hope for it. Even, if Yozora doesn't end up with Kodaka I'd like her to have a happy ending some how, her running away and crying is far from that. Funny thing, I used to support KodakaxYozora after the season 1 finale but than season 2 came and I started to dislike her and found myself rooting for KodakaxSena in the end hope they really do get married at the end of the series.
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Old 2013-04-04, 02:11   Link #204
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I actually just finished watched the 2nd season a while ago - I was never a fan of Yozora, and was stuck at the episode in season 1 where Yozora finally reveals that she was the childhood friend (yes, you can see that a with all those foreshadowing, but I just didn't like where it was going).

I must say that I enjoyed season 2 way more than season 1. The character development and story is much better. The only thing is gotta be the last segment with Yozora in the last epsiode - but I guess it's there to build suspense for the next season (or the next volume for the LN).

It was interesting to learn why Kodaka is so "dense" and always seems to have hearing problems. It's understandable that he only wanted to keep the status quo of the club, instead of getting serious with one of the girls. Rika has really stepped up as the main heroine, and probably the actual protagonist of the story with her line in episode 12 that revealed her referring herself as "Boku" instead of the usual "Rika". That has got to give her more weight in the story from now on.
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Old 2013-04-04, 05:50   Link #205
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My thoughts:

Rika: Just as planned. ehehehe, now I steal the main character's spotlight and finally take Sena's place as Kodaka's rightful wife. Screw Sena's cheats. >///<


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As I thought, I felt that Season 2 accomplished more than Season 1. However, is this really for the best? It might take a while before S3 even comes.
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Old 2013-04-04, 11:05   Link #206
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My thoughts:

Rika: Just as planned. ehehehe, now I steal the main character's spotlight and finally take Sena's place as Kodaka's rightful wife. Screw Sena's cheats. >///<


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As I thought, I felt that Season 2 accomplished more than Season 1. However, is this really for the best? It might take a while before S3 even comes.
It's going to be more than a while before there are even any plans for a season 3. I mean there isn't even any material to animate at this point
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Old 2013-04-04, 11:54   Link #207
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The list people are posting about Kodakas ideal girl fits Hinata perfectly.
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Old 2013-04-09, 10:03   Link #208
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Just finished the whole series in one go but man.... what's with that ending. Is that the ending? Rika won?
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Old 2013-04-09, 11:19   Link #209
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Just finished the whole series in one go but man.... what's with that ending. Is that the ending? Rika won?
Nope, that is a "wait for season 3". The author has said that so far this is only the prologue to the story, so we are far from any girl "winning".
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Old 2013-04-10, 02:06   Link #210
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hope for season 3 soon ...^^

I bet for yozora ^^
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Old 2013-04-10, 05:49   Link #211
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waiting for season 3 would probably take years. Since when I checked the novel. It looks like the ending of season two is found in the latest volume.
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Old 2013-04-11, 05:30   Link #212
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Rika has quickly developed from a background character for me to someone I've really come to like and respect. She's probably had the best development out of all the girls and it really shows. She's become one of my favorites, to the point that I wouldn't mind Sena losing to her (or vice versa) if there's ever really a romance route.
I liked Rika most in S2 as well, but I think she's a dead end. Most stories have a character who clearly understands exactly what's going on and acts as a guide to offer advice and help the other characters develop. Usually the role is given to a side-character who cannot be romantically involved (e.g. same-sex best friend or sibling of one of the love interests), or a mentor who is either old or can be killed off (e.g. Obi Wan). The reason is that a character who is so introspective and understands the main character(s) personality so well automatically becomes the #1 romantic candidate if the gender and age are compatible.

Unfortunately, the author put Rika in that role. While that would be great for Rika if this were RL, it's terrible for her from the standpoint of the story. Either she becomes the #1 candidate and the story ends, or she's written into a secondary role to prevent her from becoming #1 and ending the story.

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Felt a bit bad for Yozora. She's so stuck in the past and in her ways that while everyone else is growing and reaping the fruits of the Neighbor's Club (Rika and Kodaka are friends, Sena confesses, Maria and Kobato are friends, Yukimura growing as a character), she's instead throwing it away. It's knd of sad, actually.
It's pretty clear the author intended a Yozora/Kodaka ending. Whether he sticks to it in light of Sena's popularity remains to be seen. But most everything disfunctional about Yozora is something that can be tempered by Kodaka. She dislikes most people, whereas Kodaka tries to like others. She's beautiful but has an icy personality; Kodaka looks delinquent but has a nice personality. Her trust issues probably stem from how she screwed up her separation from Taka; and the potential to repair that trust lies with Kodaka 10 years later. She is yin to his yang. The story is structured for these two to end up together.

Her deconstruction and downfall in the latest LN and end of S2 is something which had to happen for character to develop. As you point out, she's been living in the past, hoping to rekindle what she had in the past. Most of the insults and jokes she directs at the others (especially Sena) are attempts to maintain the status quo while she waits for Kodaka to revive their past relationship. Something that cannot work because Taka's relationship with Sora was boy/boy. What Yozora wants now is a woman/man relationship with Kodaka, but that won't come about from reviving his boy/boy feelings (emphasized by her dressing more like a boy).

So she needed to be defeated and deconstructed before her character can grow and develop. For most of the series she was the dominant member of the club. She needed to be taken out of that position so she can (hopefully) come back as a rebuilt and more developed character. That's what happened with her admitting to Rika that the BL game was good, her movie script being found out, Sena's confession, and her decision to take some time away. Each took her down a notch from her comfortable (but static wrt Kodaka) position as dominant club member. It's all a setup for a new and improved Yozora to return, changing the dynamics of the relationships within the group.
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Old 2013-04-11, 10:29   Link #213
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^dam good analysis and i agree on all points, even if i'm hoping for a sena or rika ending
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Old 2013-04-11, 16:01   Link #214
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Great first post, and welcome to Animesuki forums! You summarized and analyzed the situation quite well. As it seems like we are heading towards a turning point in the story, it really is hard to predict what will happen next. I do expect a different Yozora.

Now, something I don't expect to happen but probably would throw a huge wrench in the story is that if Kodaka actually decided to accept Sena and dates her while Yozora is away. Then when Yozora comes back, she is in for another shock and makes her "strike back." Of course, I don't expect it to go this route, but it would be very interesting to see.
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Old 2013-04-13, 04:48   Link #215
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Just finished the series last night and to be fair the humour is good.. hilarious etc.... The only one lacking is a concert linear plot.... We got new characters but they are just the same... nothing really changed.. yeah... confessions etc... but we still have a stupid in denial Kodaka..... Now Yosura goes EMO... my...

I gave it a 8/10 overall.... basically that's because of the jokes and gags...
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Old 2013-04-16, 15:39   Link #216
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Yozora's problem is that on the surface, her only goal is to be friends with Kodaka and she want's to be his closest friend. A side benefit to that goal will be a romantic friendship, but most of all she wants him back like she did 10 years ago.

But deeper down, she is fighting the fact that she has friends other then Kodaka, and that he will have other friends as well. This is her biggest conflict. In fact, the reason she ran away after Rika officially became Kodaka's friend is because she wasn't first. Sena has confessed wanting a romantic relationship, and Rika has successfully achieved an official friendship. Although it's obvious Rika wants more then just friendship, she can cope with Kodaka being romantic with Sena.

Yozora, however, can not. She will continue to struggle with it until she admits wanting friendships outside of Kodaka, namely Sena herself. It may very well be that the series is waiting for her to drop those barriers for Kodaka to see her differently. Until that happens, he will continue to respect her good points, and be scared of her bad points. Nothing will evolve.

If anything, Rika has the most going for her. Despite her weird...issues, she has been the most up front and honest amongst all the girls in the harem so far. Kodaka could respect that and fall for her, but it will likely end up being that the two of them will become very close friends, and either Yozora or Sena will be the girlfriend.

The real question is what happens to the loser between Sena and Yozora. This is why I think they'll need to become good friends first before any romance with Kodaka is concluded. As for Sena herself...her cold nature to anything she doesn't have an interest in is going to become an issue as time goes on. This is probably her greatest weakness along side Yozora's inability to share her friendship with Kodaka and to stop being a bully. The Student Council president may very well be a good character to show Yozora how wrong she is about popular people, and that not all of them are bad. In fact, I think that character has been put into the series for that very reason.
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Old 2013-06-07, 06:55   Link #217
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After watching the last episode my 1st reaction was that Rika is just awsome and should be the one Kodaka ends up with. But after thinking it through I really want Yozura to be the one. Why? 2 reasons.
1st Yozura needs Kodaka more than any other.
2nd I beleive Kodaka would make Yozura happier than if he ends up with one of the others. It would mean the world to her and I just want her to be happy. I know there is a wonderful person inside of her.
Just my 2 cents.
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Old 2013-06-10, 11:46   Link #218
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After watching the last episode my 1st reaction was that Rika is just awsome and should be the one Kodaka ends up with. But after thinking it through I really want Yozura to be the one. Why? 2 reasons.
1st Yozura needs Kodaka more than any other.
2nd I beleive Kodaka would make Yozura happier than if he ends up with one of the others. It would mean the world to her and I just want her to be happy. I know there is a wonderful person inside of her.
Just my 2 cents.
And what about the happiness of Kodaka ?
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Old 2013-06-12, 03:20   Link #219
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Something that cannot work because Taka's relationship with Sora was boy/boy. What Yozora wants now is a woman/man relationship with Kodaka, but that won't come about from reviving his boy/boy feelings (emphasized by her dressing more like a boy).
So that's why Yozura refused to wear the Yakuta towards the end of season 1. She seems to get mad when her club friends says she's cute wearing certain clothes as well, almost to the point where seems to want to de-emphasize her femninity and wants kodaka see see her as she was 10 years before. Thanks to your anaysis, Her behavior makes more sense! I agree with others, she's the most in "need(benefit?)" with being kodaka Gfriend. Sena & Rika characture's seem strong enough to "need" Kodaka as much to get along with others and understand their internal feelings.

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Old 2013-07-24, 10:53   Link #220
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Yozora is the only one that still gives me the feeling of loneliness when I watch the Anime. I really fell sorry for her since all she wanted was to have a friend again.

That being said something that is really starting to get on my nerves is the pretense that they keep putting up that they don't have friends anymore. In every conceivable way that you measure what a friend is they are all already friends with each other.

I really can't wait for the third season since it will obviously focus on Yozora and the growth that her character still has available. The first season focused on Sena and the introduction of all the characters, the second season saw Rika finally growing into a main character and the first friend that Kodaka "publicly" acknowledges.

The only way that I will keep watching this Anime is if they finally focus on all the scars that Yozora has thanks to the events of ten years ago.
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