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Old 2013-08-29, 08:23   Link #3321
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Oh I agree with you on Eight
Trigram, I’m just noting that
hanzi 八陣圖 (literal meaning
Eight-Formation Diagram) is a
tactical formation attributed
to Zhuge in history and the
same three characters are
used for the Stone Sentinel
Maze in the novel.
ps. i stole them.. so lets pretend everything is o` right.

not trying to be prickly pear, but you edited something that is already correct.

the maze that hanbei devised is called ; "Stone Sentinel Maze" the famed trap that Zhuge Kongming build in Yiling to stop the pursuing Lu Xun of Wu's army from pursuing the badly defeated Liu Bei's army.

while the 8 trigram here refers to Fu Xi's Eigth Trigram which depicted the tconcept of cosmos, the Bagua.

well.. i guess this is not important. so let us continue the discussion about henrietta being erotic compared to louise being still lacking sensualism as a girl. later we compared it altogether seeing why nobuna is muc better as yandere starting the ero scene in vol.8 because of goemon's prank that almost resulted in threesome with juubei.
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Old 2013-08-29, 08:31   Link #3322
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ps. i stole them.. so lets pretend everything is o` right.

not trying to be prickly pear, but you edited something that is already correct.

the maze that hanbei devised is called ; "Stone Sentinel Maze" the famed trap that Zhuge Kongming build in Yiling to stop the pursuing Lu Xun of Wu's army from pursuing the badly defeated Liu Bei's army.

while the 8 trigram here refers to Fu Xi's Eigth Trigram which depicted the tconcept of cosmos, the Bagua.

well.. i guess this is not important. so let us continue the discussion about henrietta being erotic compared to louise being still lacking sensualism as a girl. later we compared it altogether seeing why nobuna is muc better as yandere starting the ero scene in vol.8 because of goemon's prank that almost resulted in threesome with juubei.
huh? I only edited strategem to trigram... thats all...

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Old 2013-08-29, 08:41   Link #3323
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that's weird. i seemed to spot "stone sentinel maze" being changed to "8trigram maze" .... though they might follow the Book of Change (Yi Jing) but the context are inherently different.

also more important issues...

comparing louise of zero tsukaima with nobuna is unfair. the situation is greatly contrasted.

Louise live like in a fairy tale where her greatest problem is henrietta stealing saitou as of vol19 but ...

nobuna was forced to life behind a mask of conqueror ... like Tohsaka Rin of Fsn.

when we make comparisson between them it should have been

Nobuna with Rin Tohsaka who are both tsundere! their situation are more or less as acceptable. see UBW and Heaven Feel with Realta Nua.

you will see that Rin embarassed on Lancer speak of giving assistance with Shirou speaking "fine, but stay off from my tohsaka!" is greatly satiafying or the cemetery scene where Rin broken hearted with Archer giving up on her.

oh.. there is another one.

compare Nobuna of Nobuna no Yabou LN with Sousou motoku (Cao Cao Mengde) of shin koihime musou gi route (Wei).

their situation are comparable than with Rin though in case of Rin she is more of lonely while nobuna are more of fear of betrayal.
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Old 2013-08-29, 08:44   Link #3324
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that's weird. i seemed to spot "stone sentinel maze" being changed to "8trigram maze" .... though they might follow the Book of Change (Yi Jing) but the context are inherently different.

also more important issues...

comparing louise of zero tsukaima with nobuna is unfair. the situation is greatly contrasted.

Louise live like in a fairy tale where her greatest problem is henrietta stealing saitou as of vol19 but ...

nobuna was forced to life behind a mask of conqueror ... like Tohsaka Rin of Fsn.

when we make comparisson between them it should have been

Nobuna with Rin Tohsaka who are both tsundere! their situation are more or less as acceptable. see UBW and Heaven Feel with Realta Nua.

you will see that Rin embarassed on Lancer speak of giving assistance with Shirou speaking "fine, but stay off from my tohsaka!" is greatly satiafying or the cemetery scene where Rin broken hearted with Archer giving up on her.

oh.. there is another one.

compare Nobuna of Nobuna no Yabou LN with Sousou motoku (Cao Cao Mengde) of shin koihime musou gi route (Wei).

their situation are comparable than with Rin though in case of Rin she is more of lonely while nobuna are more of fear of betrayal.
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huh? I only edited strategem to trigram... thats all...
I think we owe it to Tarmade to help fix mistakes, after all, he done the ground work. We'll try to rough out the edges alright? Tarmade, just focus on translating.
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Old 2013-08-29, 08:46   Link #3325
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yeah ... you are right. that is not so important. so in another case ... it is hard to find henrietta ntr doujin.
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Old 2013-08-29, 10:26   Link #3326
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Louise live like in a fairy tale where her greatest problem is henrietta stealing saitou as of vol19 but ...
And elves genocide by Pope or Reconquista... somehow you are way too simplifying things.
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Old 2013-08-29, 10:54   Link #3327
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not as bad as in suikoden. you are exagerrating things.

and the life expectancy in tristain are longer.

Why do you think nobuna is fond of Atsumori?
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Old 2013-08-31, 09:58   Link #3328
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Chap 4 of Volume 7 is now done... I'm sorry but I lied in my previous P.S. Monkeys are indeed hurt in this LN...

SARU!!!!!
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I also have to say for Sagara, if I was the one there, I would have gladly get out of the onsen and say "I cannot stay with a woman who believes every misunderstanding, I will be searching for the way home now".
That would likely be the best reaction here.

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yeah... henrietta is more hotter... better pron material. too bad too few NTRape doujin of her. but on the other news tarmade... you changed something that is already correct.
Your interests are rather ... specific, I'm not surprised you don't find much material there.
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Old 2013-08-31, 12:57   Link #3329
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personally i hate NTRare , usually prefer the chara with whoever the author paired her with.But well, as long it is not real life don't see why to interfer with other peopležs tastes
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Old 2013-08-31, 14:11   Link #3330
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Hey, I'm not interfering, just joking around. Everyone's free to like whatever they want.
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Old 2013-08-31, 20:54   Link #3331
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not really oot considering next asakura yoshikage will do 'anything' for nobuna.
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Old 2013-09-01, 07:49   Link #3332
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Strictly speaking, we will never know how Zero no Tsukaima will end with any of the characters. Noboru Yamaguchi, the author of the series, died on April 4, 2013 leaving the series unfinished with no one left to continue it like that of Kaze no Stigma.
That's my great fear with multiple series right now. The authors take an eternity to complete them and some day they'll die and leave us never to see the end. Like Patrick O'Brian...

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not really oot considering next asakura yoshikage will do 'anything' for nobuna.
Anything to have Nobuna. Not the likeablest character.
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Old 2013-09-01, 07:58   Link #3333
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actually... i kinda have some sympathy for him.... being an enthusiast to one subject;

and i don't know... for an otaku he look very different than today otaku.

oh.. speaking of this if i recall back then there is talk about Nobuna being yandere.... but noone was as yandere as roboko from doraemon.
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Old 2013-09-01, 09:22   Link #3334
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actually... i kinda have some sympathy for him.... being an enthusiast to one subject;

and i don't know... for an otaku he look very different than today otaku.

oh.. speaking of this if i recall back then there is talk about Nobuna being yandere.... but noone was as yandere as roboko from doraemon.
That would be me .

And Akechi fits Bakadere better , her denying level is starting to annoying me
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Old 2013-09-01, 11:24   Link #3335
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but actually i was referring to him as genji monogatari otaku. seeing i am also typical person who is enthusiastic on military, politics, economy and history subjects; right now i am more into the subject of three kingdom era of ROTK-esque.... that is why as fellow enthusiast i know his feeling.

Sometimes i envy him... turning his ideal and inspiration in his perfecture (echizen and odani). everywhere is decorated with genji of heian period.

man... that makes me envious... to be able to paint everything with his favored subject (that's alotta money). sigh... i want to decorate everything in my house with hello kitty.

darn it that asakura yoshikage with his good looks, rich and wealthy province (echizen is a port town, giving him control of naval trade and salt like kenshin's territory in echigo) , 750,000 strong military forces and the hard to attack ichijoudani fort.

oh welll hope at least We are given bit sight on MOri Motonari and Teru before concluding everything.



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well... juubei right? i shall stop here
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Old 2013-09-01, 17:10   Link #3336
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oh welll hope at least We are given bit sight on MOri Motonari and Teru before concluding everything.
Why are you so sure it will conclude so soon? Did author himself announce that? If not, then there is no real basis and is just an assumption.
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Old 2013-09-01, 22:52   Link #3337
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Yeah many things will have to happen before this is concluded otherwise the other way it will end will be that the publishing company will drop this LN
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Old 2013-09-02, 04:53   Link #3338
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Nah , i still believe that the author is the strong-willed type and will not be bound to fan demanding , unlike Infinite stratos 's author , although this series already created a good couple , Saru and Nobuna , that is the rule , they will be married each other , or stab by the wife / girl friend / other Daimyo .
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Old 2013-09-08, 06:13   Link #3339
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Can anybody please tell/reference to me any previous events where Niwa, Nagahide and Shibata, Katsuie showed any sign of liking/crush/feelings for Yoshiharu from their end? I haven't read the LN but am curious as to how those two girls' feelings for the protagonist progresses. So far from the info I've read here, they more or less act like they weren't really part of our so-called harem/supporting harem.
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Old 2013-09-08, 07:17   Link #3340
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^AFAIK they were'nt really part of the "harem"
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