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Old 2013-09-03, 23:25   Link #1
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[Manga] Naruto Chapter 645 Discussion Thread

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Old 2013-09-04, 03:08   Link #2
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oh my can you tell Sasuke getting frustrated .. naruto mixing , senjustu chakra with all technique kinda impressive
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Old 2013-09-04, 03:16   Link #3
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Chapter is out.

Can be summed up by saying Infinite Tsukuyomi cast. Kishi seems to like what he did in The Road to Ninja movie. In that movie, Obito cast a limited Tsukuyomi on just Naruto and Sakura. He created a new world where all the characters were their opposites. So Kishi can be unlimited with what he can do here now and move us away from the boring battlefield setting and the same four characters every chapter. In the genjutsu world, everyone can have their secret desires. He can really do something interesting. Hopefully he won't blow this opportunity.

Sage Kyuubi Mode wasn't that interesting.

Sasuke is jealous. And the return of Idiot Naruto. Although he was also in the last chapter and never is far away.
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Old 2013-09-04, 04:01   Link #4
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I'm not sure how I feel about this chapter. I mean, it's... lackluster? I don't want to talk about the contents of it yet since it *just* came out, and I don't want to spoil it, but I was really expecting more than this.

Almost felt like a *shudder* Bleach chapter.
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Old 2013-09-04, 04:16   Link #5
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Old 2013-09-04, 05:00   Link #6
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agreed this was really poor I mean there's nothing special about it and admittedly it was probably predictable that he'd be able to use sage mode with the kyuubi but just give him some limitations heck the only thing missing is kakashi who has no doubt seen all of naruto's tricks using a sexy jutsu of rin (that would actually be priceless)
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Old 2013-09-04, 06:40   Link #7
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yay!!! feels glad to see Naruto got his spotlight in front of badass predecessor
while his father still emo... getting sad and miss his wife...
can't blame a proud dad though
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Old 2013-09-04, 06:57   Link #8
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Oh look, the rivalry that caused Emoske to leave in the first place is making a comeback. I wonder when he's going to turn against Naruto and Co.
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Old 2013-09-04, 07:00   Link #9
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Oh look, the rivalry that caused Emoske to leave in the first place is making a comeback. I wonder when he's going to turn against Naruto and Co.
Naw, he's all grown up and ready to acknowledge the fact that Naruto is fit to become hokage...that's about everything people are saying now, anyways.
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Old 2013-09-04, 08:05   Link #10
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agreed this was really poor I mean there's nothing special about it and admittedly it was probably predictable that he'd be able to use sage mode with the kyuubi but just give him some limitations
-I'd have thought we'd be against this sort of thinking now that we're in the end-game of Naruto. I remember a lot of people raising a fit whenever some of Naruto's new techniques came with a lot of drawbacks. Rasenshuriken had very limited range and damaged his cells. It has since been upgrades and fixed. Sage Mode only lasted 5 minutes because Kurama was being an ass. That too seems to have been fixed. Kyuubi Chakra Mode (the first one) was also limited in supply but has now been upgraded since Kurama is on board now. Basically, we've entered the home stretch of the story. There is only just a few things left to wrap up and finish so I don't see the need for placing limitations now.

-Having said that though, I am not sure how much I like Minato having the exact same, but darker, version of full bijuu mode. It makes Naruto's feel a bit less special. But at the same time, that's 2 massive chakra beings making a giant Rasengan infused with nature energy and trying to ram it into some massive whiner's face. So there's some things to really like.
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Old 2013-09-04, 09:15   Link #11
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Well that was fast. It seems any concept of pacing has been thrown out the window by now, and everything is in a mad rush to simply finish. Sad, but still true.

All we can hope for now is for Nagato's dog to come back in the I.T. Poor dog never got its chance to shine...(Nagato can be replaced with Obito, and dog can be replaced with Rin).
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Old 2013-09-04, 09:30   Link #12
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If this new mode does nothing new I don't think I'll be too surprised, but it's prolly a little too soon to tell. Based on shodaimes (who naruto is apparently a bigger idiot than and better hokage)use of sage mode, I'd say naruto has a lot of room to make some things happen.
Nidaime has realized they can't continue telegraphing moves. Maybe naruto clones himself out and goes on a full assault with frog taijutsu...I don't think juubito would see that coming
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Old 2013-09-04, 09:41   Link #13
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Sasuke isn't going to admit that he might have been better off returning to the village after Itachi's death, is he? Sasuke isn't going to admit that he gained very little from his extended revenge plot, is he? Sasuke isn't going to resolve himself to become stronger in a manner that does not inconvenience others, is he?

But maybe he'll feel better about himself if his sharingan is capable of stopping or slowing down the infinite tsukuyomi.
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Old 2013-09-04, 10:01   Link #14
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Sasuke isn't going to admit that he might have been better off returning to the village after Itachi's death, is he? Sasuke isn't going to admit that he gained very little from his extended revenge plot, is he? Sasuke isn't going to resolve himself to become stronger in a manner that does not inconvenience others, is he?

But maybe he'll feel better about himself if his sharingan is capable of stopping or slowing down the infinite tsukuyomi.
He became a badass under Orochimaru. I mean, sure, he is crazy like a fox (see what I did tharr), but he had the ability to back it up. The damage he did to Raikage, and then to Danzou is no small feat.

I'm not a fan of his hax op, but now he looks downright normal compared to what's going on around him.
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Old 2013-09-04, 11:11   Link #15
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What some people have talked about finally happened. A combination between Kyuubi and Sage Mode. What Sasuke doesn't know is that instead of learning an assortment of different jutsu, Naruto learned jutsu that improves his chakra control. First, it was Rasengan that dealt with manipulating chakra to rotate at high speeds. Then, the Rasen-Shuriken dealt with applying elemental nature to chakra manipulation, using spatial and elemental recompostion. Sage mode required adding natural energy to your two already existing energies that make chakra and balance them. Everything Naruto's learned all the back from the tree exercise had to do with manipulating chakra. That's why now, even though he doesn't know variety of techniques, he can use the ones he knows in different ways, namely the different forms of Rasengan, like with the help of Kurama's chapter, the Wakusei Rasengan that put out of action the third Tsuchikage.

I have no doubt Madara is going to act now. Obito obviously is doing his own thing. However, what he plans to do is still up in the air.
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Old 2013-09-04, 11:12   Link #16
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another crappy chapter. i am very disappointed in sasuke's return. apparently gaining EMS meant nothing
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Old 2013-09-04, 11:16   Link #17
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A lot better than previous week. I really dig the artwork when the giant Kyubi appears and Naruto and Kurama's discussion was fun.
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Old 2013-09-04, 11:31   Link #18
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another crappy chapter. i am very disappointed in sasuke's return. apparently gaining EMS meant nothing
Well hopefully its that he just hasn't "discovered" the ability yet(He didn't learn to use Susanoo or Amaterasu right away either). Sasuke usually learns things intuitively, when the situation calls for it, then perfects/modifies it later on. Its usually necessary for him to be pressured(perhaps near death), which hasn't happened much yet... While the fight with Kabuto was dangerous, he was holding back and wasn't pressured the way he was during the summit or against killerbee.

But yeah I didn't think this chapter was that great either, just the same non-stop glorification we've been getting for months, without much plot.
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Old 2013-09-04, 11:54   Link #19
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Sasuke it totallly jealous of naruto. There has been times that it has shown. Much like when both battled on the rooftop of the hospital. Stilll the father & son kyuubi battle was cool. Now that Kurama has shown his dere side and allowed Naruto to use sage mode while in kyuubi mode can this mean that Ma & Pa will be able to finally join the battle and fuse with naruto like Jiraiya did?
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Old 2013-09-04, 13:24   Link #20
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Nidaime has realized they can't continue telegraphing moves. Maybe naruto clones himself out and goes on a full assault with frog taijutsu...I don't think juubito would see that coming
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Now that Kurama has shown his dere side and allowed Naruto to use sage mode while in kyuubi mode can this mean that Ma & Pa will be able to finally join the battle and fuse with naruto like Jiraiya did?
Obito just cast IT. That means this boring Naruto fight is thankfully over. No more stupid Super Kyuubi Sage Mode. It should switch the scenery and we see what Madara has planned.

The next volume should deal with the genjutsu world and how they figure out something is wrong, and break out of it.
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