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Old 2013-09-09, 05:26   Link #2281
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It's just one day and the marketed audience already read the story so plot wise it isn't anything special.

EDIT: I'm so HARD RIGHT NOW!!!!! HNGGG My new goddess has arrived!!

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VOFAN art imba.

Owarimonogatari is two volumes now so all in all if Zoku is one volume than this season will have 5 books.
Owari's the last?
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Old 2013-09-09, 06:00   Link #2282
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Finished reading formula.


WE DETECTIVE CONAN NOW??
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Old 2013-09-09, 07:17   Link #2283
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Finished reading formula.


WE DETECTIVE CONAN NOW??
Well don't keep us hanging, what's it about?
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Old 2013-09-09, 07:58   Link #2284
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It is frankly Nisio's take on the mystery/detective genre. We also have of course Oikura Sodachi which is a new character. We also have new 30+ characters in the story that talks.....kinda weird.
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Old 2013-09-09, 08:02   Link #2285
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It is frankly Nisio's take on the mystery/detective genre. We also have of course Oikura Sodachi which is a new character. We also have new 30+ characters in the story that talks.....kinda weird.
So Zaregoto all over again, got it.
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Old 2013-09-09, 12:48   Link #2286
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It is frankly Nisio's take on the mystery/detective genre. We also have of course Oikura Sodachi which is a new character. We also have new 30+ characters in the story that talks.....kinda weird.
Oh my... It's like "I heard that you like Nisio Isin, so we put some Zaregoto in your Monogatari, so you can go crazy when you go crazy while read 'em."

And in what timing this story takes place? Is Araragi still the narrator of the story? These characters are just some background characters, nothing more? I mean, Monogatari series has a lot of that kind of characters, they were just cut from anime. And, for me the main thing - Sodachi is male or female (still it's the new member of Araragi's harem) ?

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Old 2013-09-09, 23:30   Link #2287
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I think it takes place right before kizu. Kanbaru introduced Ougi to Koyomi. Sodachi is a girl.

You can say the others are background characters, but then Arararagi and the others should be background characters as well.

Riddle and Lost might be around that looong break in the timeline after otori when Arararagi will meet Sodachi again.

There should be foreshadowing of Sodachi in the next three arcs of the anime. DO IT SHAFT.

I'm looking forward for riddle and lost and how nisio will pull it out.

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Old 2013-09-10, 00:25   Link #2288
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I think it takes place right before kizu. Kanbaru introduced Ougi to Koyomi.
You meant sometime right after Neko White and before Otori, right? Cause Kanbaru introdeced Ougi to Araragi somewhere at that time.

And I want to repeat previous question - who is narrator of this story? Is it Araragi or Sodachi?
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Old 2013-09-10, 03:18   Link #2289
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^ The day Kanbaru introduced Ougi? There's no date in the book. It was just implied that Kanbaru introduced her.

The story that Ararararagi is telling us in the book was at the events before kizu. July 15 of two years ago. He was still a freshman.

The foreshadowing in Oni which I'm expecting in the anime is about the dialogue between him and Ougi. SHAFT might even put a Sodachi sillohueteee whatever in that scene. Which they should.

Does anyone want a summary to make things clearer? I'm not good with summaries but I guess I'll try if anyone wants to. Or another user here who read the book will be much better?
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Old 2013-09-10, 03:37   Link #2290
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Yes, please, write a summary. I and a lot of others will be really glad if you'll do it.

Oh, and there was implying about when Ougi was introduced to Araragi. That was in Kabukimonogatari in the beginning of the book, when he's saying that Kambaru told him about new freshman in their school with last name "Oshino". So it means that it was in the beginning of his 3rd year in Highschool.

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Old 2013-09-10, 05:14   Link #2291
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Yes, please, write a summary. I and a lot of others will be really glad if you'll do it.

Oh, and there was implying about when Ougi was introduced to Araragi. That was in Kabukimonogatari in the beginning of the book, when he's saying that Kambaru told him about new freshman in their school with last name "Oshino". So it means that it was in the beginning of his 3rd year in Highschool.
Yes.
And you could say the stuff you have read/watch in Kabuki after the conversation between Ougi and Araragi were just a flashback story.
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Old 2013-09-10, 05:23   Link #2292
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Okay just make it clear, Ougi was a transfer student and she and Araragi met during fall or winter(can't remember) of his third year.
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Old 2013-09-10, 05:42   Link #2293
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Okay just make it clear, Ougi was a transfer student and she and Araragi met during fall or winter(can't remember) of his third year.
Yeah, you're right, I mistook a ceremony of the beginning of new term with ceremony of new school year. It's just that I always forgetting, that new school year doesn't start in Japan at autumn.
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Old 2013-09-10, 06:19   Link #2294
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Vague summary but here it goes...

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So if the meeting is after neko white, my guess of riddle and lost being right after these events might be correct. Hanekawa is still there so it is before Otori.

I don't know if this is also the same classroom where Arararagi opened up to Ougi about Mayoi.
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Old 2013-09-10, 06:56   Link #2295
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I don't get this part:
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Cause:
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Do I understand this correctly at all?

Oh, and thanks for the summary.
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Old 2013-09-10, 07:47   Link #2296
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Thanks for the answers and summary.

I also have question:
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Old 2013-09-10, 10:35   Link #2297
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Wow, very intersting!
Finally, we have learned something about Koyomi's past.
I understand now, why Koyomi "can't see" his classmates and why he desided to live with "If you make friends, your strength as a human will decrease"-ideology. But I think this is not enouth... Koyomi was very devastaited at the start of Kizumono - did only this event turn him into this condition? I guess that novel contains a lot of details, which make this point clearer.
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Old 2013-09-10, 11:18   Link #2298
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Wow, very intersting!
Finally, we have learned something about Koyomi's past.
I understand now, why Koyomi "can't see" his classmates and why he desided to live with "If you make friends, your strength as a human will decrease"-ideology. But I think this is not enouth... Koyomi was very devastaited at the start of Kizumono - did only this event turn him into this condition? I guess that novel contains a lot of details, which make this point clearer.
He also went full retard during the year and a half going into third year.
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Old 2013-09-10, 20:30   Link #2299
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Do I understand this correctly at all?
Yeah you did. It will continue on Sodachi riddle so we might know why did she suddenly come back. My bet is Ougi is planning something.

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I also have question:
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It is just an endcard. Some bonus picture on the last page. Even mayoi had new clothes.
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Old 2013-09-11, 04:47   Link #2300
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Yeah you did. It will continue on Sodachi riddle so we might know why did she suddenly come back. My bet is Ougi is planning something.


It is just an endcard. Some bonus picture on the last page. Even mayoi had new clothes.
Ah, I see what you mean.
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