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Old 2013-10-08, 09:28   Link #4141
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But Hirako's Bankai must have been Hollowfied before this. I guess they'll have to explain that the Soul King or something like that cleaned the Vizards.
Hirako and the other Vizards never used their bankais against the Quincies. They're most likely immune like Ichigo but didn't know it until now because they didn't test it out.
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Old 2013-10-08, 11:32   Link #4142
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Hmm didn't a certain female quincy, who later married a shinigami got biten by White? and said captain even say thats a small wound no big deal.

Suddenly Hollow are poison ?
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Old 2013-10-08, 11:35   Link #4143
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Urahara states the pills prevents them from stealing their bankais.
Not really. He just say it will maybe get the bankai bak. And we don't know if it works even when the Quincy don't use the bankai.

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Those who had their bankais stolen worked on their base powers and abilities and increased them dramatically. Going bankai multiplies that power even more. Basic shounen math.
Dramatically increased power seems a little bit exagereted. In just one week, they won't go from useless to invincible. The only one who can do that is Ichigo. And even if it was the case, I doubt they would be able to catch up with the Quincy real power. They still got their transformation ("vollstanding" or whatever the name was). But since we're in Bleach it could work out.
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Old 2013-10-08, 11:53   Link #4144
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Hmm didn't a certain female quincy, who later married a shinigami got biten by White? and said captain even say thats a small wound no big deal.

Suddenly Hollow are poison ?
you're forgetting aizen was involved with the white incident. we know he designed white, so maybe he designed him to not be poisonous to quincies. since aizen knows everything, then it follows that he knew the quincy were in soul society and he knew about their weakness. he was experimenting to give shinigami hollow powers after all. could it be that aizen is a good guy and was actually trying to make the shinigami powerful enough to fight the quincy?
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Old 2013-10-08, 12:46   Link #4145
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Hmm didn't a certain female quincy, who later married a shinigami got biten by White? and said captain even say thats a small wound no big deal.

Suddenly Hollow are poison ?
That's why they had to tie her life to Ichigo's father (at the expense of his powers). She was dying until they did that.
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Old 2013-10-08, 14:34   Link #4146
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Off topic question. I was retreading some chapters and read that juha Bach, killed all the quinces except ishida by taking there power. How is ishida's dad alive then.
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Old 2013-10-08, 14:38   Link #4147
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Lolscience strikes again! But whatever, we all know the shinigami won't be able to do shit until Ichigo comes back anyway so Bach will fuck up everyone.

So...is Matsumoto dead?

Did Kubo seriously just opened up the possibilities of the Vizards actually succeeding? Because after the poor showing they gave with Aizen, they sure could use a break!

If Urahara's in SS with Mayuri, then where's the nakama and Grimmjow at? Is Yoruichi with them?

Serious Question: Wouldn't this chapter mean that basically Ishida should've died on the spot when Ichigo was in Hollow form all those years ago in HM and tore his stomach?

Did that VR with Mayuri really leave or what? If he left....PUSSY! If he didn't...then LOL the two so-called geniuses of the series basically just put a target on themselves.

Otherwise, I don't really have anything else other than we all know damn well Ichigo will save their asses since the shinigami can't wipe their butts without Ichigo.
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Old 2013-10-08, 14:47   Link #4148
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Off topic question. I was retreading some chapters and read that juha Bach, killed all the quinces except ishida by taking there power. How is ishida's dad alive then.
He killed all the impure/unworthy Quincies. Not all of them (else he wouldn't even have an army).
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Old 2013-10-08, 14:54   Link #4149
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lol, Mayuri really hate Urahara, anyway I guess the quincies need to give back the bankai they stole, so they don't die.
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Old 2013-10-08, 15:37   Link #4150
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I almost though that they will hollowfy all the Captain...
meh! I truly hope they aren't turning into Vizard.... current Vizards are enough

Urahara and Mayuri's interaction is funny
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Old 2013-10-08, 16:07   Link #4151
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That's why they had to tie her life to Ichigo's father (at the expense of his powers). She was dying until they did that.
oh yea, that's right. well, i still think aizen knows everything. actually that makes it sound even better since at that time he learned that quincies find hollow poisonous. that's why he started hollowfication in the first place i'm sure of it

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So...is Matsumoto dead?
she better fucking not well better not be!
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Old 2013-10-08, 16:31   Link #4152
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Serious Question: Wouldn't this chapter mean that basically Ishida should've died on the spot when Ichigo was in Hollow form all those years ago in HM and tore his stomach?
It will probably be handwaved as "it was Tensa Zangetsu, based off Ichigo's shinigami and quincy powers, even though the hollow was in control" or something equally vague.
Although that leads to a different problem - why wasn't Bachgetsu poisoned by Ichigo's hollow presence? As soon as Ichigo hollowified, it should have started killing him, making the block on Ichigo's powers go
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Old 2013-10-08, 16:44   Link #4153
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Old 2013-10-08, 16:45   Link #4154
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Serious Question: Wouldn't this chapter mean that basically Ishida should've died on the spot when Ichigo was in Hollow form all those years ago in HM and tore his stomach?
I think the black pills are just little hollow reiatsu portions. Uryuu never had hollow reiatsu "injected" so it was no problem.. which makes me wonder if the best way to fight Quincies would be to hunt them with reiatsu injections

anyway, decent bleachscience haha but I expect the Vizards to be finally useful
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Old 2013-10-08, 19:11   Link #4155
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So basically Kubo retconned....
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Old 2013-10-08, 21:35   Link #4156
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AH HA HA HA.

That's about as close as it gets to Vizarding SS Captains & VCs without actually Vizarding them.
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Old 2013-10-08, 22:55   Link #4157
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This turn of events may have bought SS some time. But, they're still going to need a lot more to win. Fortunately, SS still has a lot more pieces left to reveal (a few unrevealed Bankai's they can actually use now, Vizards, former FB's, Squad 0, Grimmjow, KENPACHI...and oh yeah, Ichigo.) Still waiting to see what Aizen's role is going to be in all this.

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Just realized one temporary counter Kubo might have the Quincy's use to stop all this.

Remember when Kirge absorbed all of Ayon and Harribel's fraccion into his own body and even managed to take on some of Ayon's physical traits?
So since Sklaverei can clearly be used to make any kind/type of spirit particles "absolutely subordinate" (even an arrancar's body), then Sklaverei might be capable of controlling or even nuetralizing the hollow spiritual energy inside those stolen bankai's to keep them from poisoning them.

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Old 2013-10-09, 03:02   Link #4158
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Can I get a Deus. Ex. Machina!

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Old 2013-10-09, 04:24   Link #4159
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My issue with the chapter is that all this went on with one of the Sternritters standing right there watching Urahara and Mayuri explain and implement the plan to remove their trump card ability, and no one on either side did or mentioned anything about it. Does he have some kind of memory-altering stealth ability? Did Mayuri whack him "off-screen"? Did he run off to warn Yhwach? Did Kubo just forget about him...? ^_^
Well, Mayuri's words of "As I thought, in the end, only I could fight without a bankai..." imply that he did fight, and fought succefully.
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Old 2013-10-09, 09:52   Link #4160
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Can I get a Deus. Ex. Machina!

can i get a fullbringers time to shine! oh wait... please no kubo... no0o0o0o!
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