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Old 2013-10-25, 12:25   Link #1161
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So a day one patch is announced for PS4, also a new decent Xbone ad is released and every Xbox fan start declaring Xbone won?... what?

Also the same people who a few months ago were saying things like ''Everyone should have an internet connection in this day and age'' are now complaining about the day one patch, which by the way is only 300mb, also they seem to forget that Wii U had one too and the Xbone is getting one to change it from a DRMbox into a ''console'' and let it be used without the forced kinect. There are time that i'm ashamed to be a gamer this is one of those times, I have never facepalmed as much as I have done since the Xbone was originally announced.
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Old 2013-10-25, 16:10   Link #1162
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So a day one patch is announced for PS4, also a new decent Xbone ad is released and every Xbox fan start declaring Xbone won?... what?

Also the same people who a few months ago were saying things like ''Everyone should have an internet connection in this day and age'' are now complaining about the day one patch, which by the way is only 300mb, also they seem to forget that Wii U had one too and the Xbone is getting one to change it from a DRMbox into a ''console'' and let it be used without the forced kinect. There are time that i'm ashamed to be a gamer this is one of those times, I have never facepalmed as much as I have done since the Xbone was originally announced.
Pretty much have to agree with you here. Yes it's a Day One system patch, but every system is pretty much getting them these days. Also, it's not going to be as big as the Wii U and Xbone Day One patches (unless there's going to be some slowdown due to everyone trying to get on the server, it won't be that long of a download, as I was able to download a 227 add-on for Arkham Origins today in just two minutes on my PS3).
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Old 2013-10-25, 22:14   Link #1163
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Well, at least you are still able to play game without the Day One Patch, but this is one of the reason I hardly ever get any system at launch.
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Old 2013-10-25, 23:19   Link #1164
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I think those people are forgetting why the Xbone day one patch was a big deal at the time-- the fear was that if all of that DRM function could be 'fixed' with just a patch, what's stopping them from 'unpatching' it somewhere down the road?
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Old 2013-10-25, 23:23   Link #1165
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Nearly every piece of software I purchased has a day one patch.

PS4's day one patch is used to improve it; XB1's day one patch is used to remove the built in DRM.
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Old 2013-10-25, 23:32   Link #1166
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I think those people are forgetting why the Xbone day one patch was a big deal at the time-- the fear was that if all of that DRM function could be 'fixed' with just a patch, what's stopping them from 'unpatching' it somewhere down the road?
Main Event pointed that out as well.
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Old 2013-10-26, 00:27   Link #1167
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PlayStation 4 FAQ (How sharing games works, activations, friends displayed)

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Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

Seems good enough. I could still share game with my friend, just have to go with some roundabout path.
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Old 2013-10-26, 04:33   Link #1168
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This is my second sony system I'm not buying at launch, it doesn't have a good launch line up in my opinion.
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Old 2013-10-27, 07:40   Link #1169
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Was at MCM London Comic con yesterday and they had Assassin's Creed 4 on PS4 for demo.

As expected, it looks exactly like a PS3 game =_=; And no real changes in the gameplay. So the only thing that I took away from the experience was the L2/R2 trigger and the touchpad of the new Dualshock.

I've talked to my friend about it and we agree that the trigger is definitely a trigger this time It's between the 'softness' of DS3 and the 'hardness' of the 360.

The touchpad is of similar sensitivity as a DS/3DS... Not as good as a Vita or iPhone though, but decent.
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Old 2013-10-29, 19:43   Link #1170
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This is my second sony system I'm not buying at launch, it doesn't have a good launch line up in my opinion.
Uhm ya pretty much; delays and current unstable state of the industry is kind of a gamble (Capcom developing from the grave, EA closing another studio, delays and more delays). Just buffed my PC for gaming, so I'm out until they sort their nonsense.
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Old 2013-10-30, 00:48   Link #1171
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Erm both systems are pretty much sold out anyway >_>
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Old 2013-10-30, 03:48   Link #1172
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If you haven't pre-ordered by now, you best bet would be queue at retail, and if you somehow miss the launch date, well good luck finding one that is not on ebay for the next 3 months.
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Old 2013-10-30, 14:45   Link #1173
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Ok guys, time to bring out those pitchforks: Sony releases list of things the PlayStation 4 can’t do

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Sony has just unleashed a massive FAQ to answer damn near every question you may have about the Playstation 4, and the list of things the console can't do is a rather large bummer. Let's start with the music: You can't really listen to your music. At all.

Audio CDs aren't supported. Your MP3s aren't supported. None of my existing music is compatible with your PlayStation 4… until you pay Sony. “The Music Unlimited streaming service will allow you to listen to music while you play PS4 games,” the page states. “A subscription to Music Unlimited is required.”

Why let you use the music you've already paid for, when they can resell it to you?

Can you change your PSN name? No. Can you connect an external hard drive? No. Can I stream video or movies from my PC? Of course not. “The PS4 system does not support client functionality for media servers,” Sony explains, helpfully. Why the hell not?

Oh yeah, because they want you to use their Video Unlimited service to, once again, re-buy that content. Allowing you to stream files you already own would limit their ability to profit from selling you content, don't you know. There are also weird omissions that Sony just kind of brings up, such as the inability for you to limit the amount of time your child plays on the console.

There is some good stuff in here as well, such as the ability to play certain games while they're being downloaded, but so much basic functionality is being left out or removed from what we're used to with the PlayStation 3 that it's kind of depressing.
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Old 2013-10-30, 15:06   Link #1174
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Eh? People use their Playstation to play music?

...Why ?? Wouldn't it be better to use your computer, iPod or whatever?
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Old 2013-10-30, 15:20   Link #1175
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Ok guys, time to bring out those pitchforks: Sony releases list of things the PlayStation 4 canít do
You do know this is a gaming console correct?
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Eh? People use their Playstation to play music?

...Why ?? Wouldn't it be better to use your computer, iPod or whatever?
Exactly.
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Old 2013-10-30, 15:22   Link #1176
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Not much interest in the new consoles where I live.....
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Old 2013-10-30, 16:15   Link #1177
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Not much interest in the new consoles where I live.....
Really.......but England is one of the Top Gaming countries in the World maybe even in second place to the U.S. or was that Germany?
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Old 2013-10-30, 17:48   Link #1178
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England is a BIG place though
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Old 2013-10-30, 18:01   Link #1179
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Not supporting MP3s means that the PS4 is less capable of operating as a media hub for he PS Vita (or Vita TV) than the PS3.

Unless owners of Sony's handhelds are supposed to rely on the Content Manager software on their PCs and Macs, as opposed to expecting these devices to work with their own new flagship console...
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Old 2013-10-30, 18:14   Link #1180
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You do know this is a gaming console correct?
Does that mean that you find it odd that you would want to listen to your own tunes when playing some multiplayer shooter/soccer game/racing game like you can do on current generation consoles? Do you find it odd that people would expect to be able to stream movies from their PCs like the current generation console does so competently?

Heck, even the PS1 supported audio CDs ffs!

These few lacking features combined are enough for me to downgrade the PS4 from "must-buy" to "will consider one if it ever drops to 250Ä and shows some decent exclusives". I use the upnp streaming feature quite a lot to watch tv shows, movies and anime on my living room TV using PS3 Media Server and if the new one doesn't support that it isn't worth the 500Ä they are asking for it.
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