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Old 2013-10-27, 13:50   Link #9681
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well I didn't expect the results to be this way, but I least Nagi's character development was nice.
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Old 2013-10-28, 03:23   Link #9682
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Illogical, what, sold out since 10 minutes and then one is left over? Only explanation is Ruka left one deliberately.
I think we already agreed that that was the case.

Actually, how did Chiharu know Ruka finished ten minutes earlier when she was focused with Nagi the whole time?
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Old 2013-10-28, 11:54   Link #9683
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I think we already agreed that that was the case.

Actually, how did Chiharu know Ruka finished ten minutes earlier when she was focused with Nagi the whole time?
Ruka was right behind them, so it wouldn't be hard to take an occasional look back and see. Of course Kayura could have let Chiharu know as soon as Ruka sold the last copy (#99).
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Old 2013-10-29, 23:13   Link #9684
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Someone's been translating some of the tankoubon omakes.

They even translated what appears to be Ruka's first doujinshi. Apparently Hata-sensei released that sometime ago.
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Old 2013-10-30, 11:57   Link #9685
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I'll have to give those a look-see.
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Old 2013-10-31, 09:24   Link #9686
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That's nice to hear, given that Viz isn't going to get anywhere close in the next few years. :P
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Old 2013-10-31, 16:36   Link #9687
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That's nice to hear, given that Viz isn't going to get anywhere close in the next few years. :P
*LOL* Ain't that the truth. I just checked the oldest omake, which Viz had included back then so that's cool. Now to check the rest. ^_^

Update: Heh!heh!heh! Some good stuff in there. I'm a bit bummed that Hata-sensei's remarks aren't translated.
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Old 2013-11-03, 18:46   Link #9688
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Chapter 428

Really... this chapter spoke for itself. I don't think I need to add anything to it.

What I will give is the sincere thanks for Hata-sensei for giving us this arc. Absolutely brilliant and completely on par with the Athena arc. And confession time. I actually shed a few tears.
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Old 2013-11-03, 18:47   Link #9689
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I'm not going to say I called that one. New chapter is not really what I expected.

It really does seem to wrap up Ruka's storyline entirely, though. After perhaps a bit of epilogue she seems free to disappear for a while and probably never be a major character in this manga again. I don't mean that in a bad way, I just don't think there's anywhere left to go with her after this.

Though to be perfectly honest it's been so long since we've been on the cusp of a new arc that I'm a confused jumble of feelings right now.
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Old 2013-11-03, 19:00   Link #9690
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I agree with Ruka's story being wrapped up entirely not being a bad thing. Just another way Ruka stands as one of the most unique harem females ever IMHO.

It would be sad to see Ruka go as she is officially my favorite character in the manga now, but her happiness supersedes mine.
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Old 2013-11-03, 19:04   Link #9691
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nothing to suprising in this chapter, Ruka just gave a really strong answer to her parents and everyone is happy.
this chapter make me thing what could happen if Hayate's parents could try to apologize like Ruka's parents, could Hayate forgive them?
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Old 2013-11-03, 19:25   Link #9692
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this chapter make me thing what could happen if Hayate's parents could try to apologize like Ruka's parents, could Hayate forgive them?
Not too sure. First off, Ruka did accept her parent's appology, but she didn't forgive them, going as far as saying she may never do so (This was the big problem coming into the chapter, because more often than not apologies in anime are never deserved at all. Which meant I was rolling my eyes in the beginning.)

Two wrong don't make a right by the way, but what Hayate parents did were worse than what Ruka's parents did IMO. With Ruka's parents, they took advantage of her, but in a way that its hard to tell they were aware they were doing so. Meanwhile Hayate's parents, definitely take advantage of him fully well knowing what they were doing. Take a look at the "End of the World" arc for reference. Their "we didn't know stealing (the lunch money) was wrong" was as blatant a lie as you can get and the subsequent pawning off of A-tan's ring didn't help. Of course it all goes down to what Hayate thinks in the matter, but I would say it would definitely be harder for Hayate to accept an apology from his parents then Ruka to hers. Hell, I'm not even sure they would apologize truthfully at all.

Oh god! Did I really just write all of that? Sorry about that, but I guess that goes to show that Hata-sensei is brilliant.

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Old 2013-11-03, 19:36   Link #9693
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^after reading your post I agree Hayate have it harder then Ruka in that situation, anyway, if I was Hayate I could never forgive them, they ruin Hayate life too much.
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Old 2013-11-03, 21:26   Link #9694
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Chapter 428

Really... this chapter spoke for itself. I don't think I need to add anything to it.

What I will give is the sincere thanks for Hata-sensei for giving us this arc. Absolutely brilliant and completely on par with the Athena arc. And confession time. I actually shed a few tears.
I disagree. I was interested when Ruka said she was continuing her idol career because she had no choice, but now Hata threw all that out the window just to go back to the clichéd "I actually love my job after all!" development.

Ruka could have been happy for things in her life other than her work. I'm disappointed Hata didn't go that route.
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Old 2013-11-03, 23:46   Link #9695
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I disagree. I was interested when Ruka said she was continuing her idol career because she had no choice, but now Hata threw all that out the window just to go back to the clichéd "I actually love my job after all!" development.

Ruka could have been happy for things in her life other than her work. I'm disappointed Hata didn't go that route.
I'm not going to discredit your opinion because you have a point. But for me the main problem Ruka has is that she has been forced to follow a specific path whether she likes it or not. Now that the path she has chosen is by her own volition and that she has conceded Hayate to Nagi (Nagi's passion was one copies' worth more than her own), it still implies character development for her, even if it isn't exactly what many would have wanted to happen. Also, now that she is no longer constrained by her debt, there will always be a possibility she can write manga again one day.

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Old 2013-11-04, 01:43   Link #9696
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still I wonder what will happen between hayate and ruka... non of them will quit their jobs... ruka decided that she wants to sing and that means lots of traveling (las vegas ect.).... so I kinda have a feeling that this is the end between those two... they will say theirs goodby's maybe share a kiss and their paths will split.... since in the time she is oversees she might meet a boy...or hayate might get closer to other girl

but ruka has her parents and singing back so she should be fine.....like this path is shown in her manga... that girl met a boy and was happy but then she notices she was missing her path so she had to choice her path and toss aside love and focus on her path.


Hayate made it clear this chapter... he would not forgive his parents... tehy were totaly aware of wrong doing.... they promised hayate to keep sake the ring he got from his girlfriend (athena).... but soon he learned that they sold it without giving a f...k to their promise.... and at the end they "sold him" to yakuza.... their evil doing is not even close to rukas parents who wanted her to be able to become a splendid idol (so their throught about her sake)

so I guess Ruka will disappear from the series now as her route is done... she lost the match so she lost hayate in a way...
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Old 2013-11-04, 07:26   Link #9697
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still I wonder what will happen between hayate and ruka... non of them will quit their jobs... ruka decided that she wants to sing and that means lots of traveling (las vegas ect.).... so I kinda have a feeling that this is the end between those two... they will say theirs goodby's maybe share a kiss and their paths will split.... since in the time she is oversees she might meet a boy...or hayate might get closer to other girl

but ruka has her parents and singing back so she should be fine.....like this path is shown in her manga... that girl met a boy and was happy but then she notices she was missing her path so she had to choice her path and toss aside love and focus on her path.


Hayate made it clear this chapter... he would not forgive his parents... tehy were totaly aware of wrong doing.... they promised hayate to keep sake the ring he got from his girlfriend (athena).... but soon he learned that they sold it without giving a f...k to their promise.... and at the end they "sold him" to yakuza.... their evil doing is not even close to rukas parents who wanted her to be able to become a splendid idol (so their throught about her sake)

so I guess Ruka will disappear from the series now as her route is done... she lost the match so she lost hayate in a way...
I think that's exactly it. Ruka made her decision not to throw away her old life, and Hayate will want to stay with Nagi so over time they will naturally drift apart without any hard feelings on either side and that's fine.

It even fits with I think the first episode of CTMEOY where Hayate sees a video of Ruka singing. He stops, smiles wistfully for a moment and then goes back to searching for Nagi.

With Ruka safely on a trip and out of the spotlight for a considerable amount of time, (And I don't think she'll ever get the spotlight back, really.) I suppose we'll be moving on to Athena getting her memories back. I have a feeling it will all coincide with Nagi getting her mansion back but you never quite know what Hata will do, so we'll see.
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Old 2013-11-04, 09:32   Link #9698
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Interesting how the points of contact between Ruka's and Nagi's development are shown (what cards are dealt, how one chooses to play those cards, for whose sake does one do this or that, etc.). Well done, Hata.

And now, onwards, I guess. Maybe Maria's arc is next (my guess is that the whole affair of littler miss tenuous's memories will be dealt with during the final competition).
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Old 2013-11-04, 09:36   Link #9699
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Finally this arc is over. I hope. While Ruka was a good character, this arc was just tedious. It's already been 13 volumes (this arc goes through the first 3 chapters or so of volume 39, if my count is correct, and the Greece arc ended in volume 25), and I feel very little has actually happened. We got Ruka, who will likely disappear, we got that other roommate who has done so little I cannot even remember her name, and Nagi grew a little. But that's really not much considering it took a third of the entire manga's print run.
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Old 2013-11-04, 09:56   Link #9700
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Chapter 428

Really... this chapter spoke for itself. I don't think I need to add anything to it.

What I will give is the sincere thanks for Hata-sensei for giving us this arc. Absolutely brilliant and completely on par with the Athena arc. And confession time. I actually shed a few tears.
Really?

For me, the Ruka resolution was a complete convenient "Deus Ex Machina". Either I've completely slept through several chapters, or the "hey, let's find the parents" resolution was 100% undeveloped.

I'll concede that in the end, Nagi did show some growth - that's the good news. Now let's see if Hata allows this growth to be permanent, or if we have another relapse (what I fear).

So, a decent arc, but for my taste, not remotely in he Greece league.
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