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Old 2013-11-09, 13:10   Link #81
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I'm no huge fan of DEEN but I don't see why they're a problem now... In any case I've only read the first volume of the manga but actually the gore is not that bad. Unless the anime went overboard and is more gory than the manga (very unlikely, the reverse is much more likely) it shouldn't be that much of a problem. They could just shove it somewhere at 3 in the morning.

If the contents are the issue then I think it's more likely that it's the combination of regular, somewhat explicit cannibalism, incestuous overtones, and some pretty bad parental abuse. Plus, I imagine it has zero marketing draw, given that you can't really sell the characters and the relationship between the siblings as cute.
To be honest I kinda assumed it was the contents that were the issue - esp the "explicit cannibalism" combined with the "incestuous overtones". Of course based on what little I read the parental abuse is also quite nasty, but I assumed the former combo was the main issue?
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Old 2013-11-11, 12:33   Link #82
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If Elfen Lied (among other graphic/disturbing anime) could get a television run, so can this. I suspect it's being held up for reasons other than content, especially if they had a deal but it had fallen through for some reason. I wouldn't expect this until winter at the earliest, and it's possible it may end up skipping television entirely.
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Old 2013-11-11, 18:03   Link #83
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If Elfen Lied (among other graphic/disturbing anime) could get a television run, so can this. I suspect it's being held up for reasons other than content, especially if they had a deal but it had fallen through for some reason. I wouldn't expect this until winter at the earliest, and it's possible it may end up skipping television entirely.
That was almost ten years ago, times may have changed. And even back then, Elfen Lied only aired on AT-X. It's the only channel to my knowledge that would be willing to welcome a show like Pupa, assuming it's as graphic as I've been told.
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Old 2013-11-11, 19:11   Link #84
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If Elfen Lied...
In Elfen Lied was not present direct cannibalism. And Pupa is still much more gore, than Elfen Lied.
Spoiler for Gore in Elfen Lied vs. Gore in Pupa:
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Old 2013-11-11, 22:36   Link #85
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Wow, didn't realize dismemberment was "not as bad" as disembowelment. The pictures you posted demonstrate exactly how graphic Elfen Lied was when it aired, by the way, and they aren't even the worst of what was shown. Squeamish need not apply.

For a newer example, one that was censored, there's Deadman Wonderland. People are giving Pupa too much credit. It's got graphic depictions of violence and gore, but it's not as bad as it looks. It's more that it shares a common theme with Elfen Lied in that it doesn't pull punches and never really lets up.

Having said that, it's entirely possible the anime ups the ante on that content and that could be why the airing hasn't happened, but no one knows and it's just speculation at this point.

All I'm saying is that even if content has caused the delay, it's probably not the only reason, and that it probably won't air this fall simply because things have been rescheduled already. So that leaves winter at the earliest, and if they can't find an open schedule they may go right to disc and hope for the best. It would be incredibly strange to produce an entire series and then shelve it.
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Old 2013-11-12, 02:11   Link #86
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In Elfen Lied was not present direct cannibalism. And Pupa is still much more gore, than Elfen Lied.
No, it's not. Have you read pupa? There's a bit of body horror but it's nothing like Elfen Lied's wallowing in gore. The picture you posted is probably the worst in the entire first volume, and it's just a single shot that the anime director can get creative with to lessen its impact.

Frankly, I think the main issue here is the lack of marketability (is that a word?).
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Old 2013-11-12, 02:31   Link #87
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I dunno. I have read pupa (up tp most recent chapter as of this posting, actually), and I have read elfin lied.

They are similar in a very general sense, but (and correct me if I am wrong) I don't recall the element of eating other living things/victims in elfin lied - esp not with the watery, slurpy, lip smacking graphic sounds the pv showed. -_-

For us who have not reviewed the finished product (like we assume the tv channels, etc. have) all we really have to go on is the preview as a litmus test for what the ful version of anime could be combined with the manga chapters themselves. And in that light I can kinda imagine why it has not been permitted to air thus far.

And tho it is just my own opinion I don't think that marketability is the lone consideration. Even if it is, that doesn't necessarily mean that the reasons it is assumed it would not be matketable are necessarily bad ones.

Just my take on things though.
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Old 2013-11-12, 03:20   Link #88
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I think the lesson here is this: when it comes to anime incest or cannibalism is fine. But both? That's just sick...
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Old 2013-11-12, 07:07   Link #89
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Oh please... Both similar and much worse anime and live movies have aired. This isn't even close to the most "shocking" premise I've come across, so I honestly don't quite see why that would be the main problem... would be a real shame if it was.

I for one was looking forward to this Hope they can work something out..
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Old 2013-11-13, 20:27   Link #90
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Nice to see so many people interested in this show. Mochizuki + Kido were the draw for me. As a post on 2channel says, I can't see the material being covered in the rumored eight 5-minute episodes. And I can't see why they couldn't go ahead just on NicoNico, which has a page set up for it.

I'm still going to keep checking that page daily, lol, but there is one 2channel post that makes me think we might have to wait: the ad for the anime in the manga's magazine for November said it would be animated in Fall 2013, whereas the analogous December ad just says that it will be animated, period.

I enjoyed another post on 2channel: "Did she eat the staff, too?"
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Old 2013-11-15, 01:21   Link #91
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Old 2013-11-15, 01:31   Link #92
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At least it's still happening.

I have to say from what I've been able to read so far, which honestly isn't much if you check the English translation, the gore doesn't seem that much worse then what's in say Shingeki no Kyojin.
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Old 2013-11-15, 01:35   Link #93
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What will it air on? Tv? Webcast only? Something else?
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Old 2013-11-15, 08:17   Link #94
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The tweet specifically mentions "television".
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Old 2013-11-16, 06:34   Link #95
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Sayaka Mogi's Horror Manga Pupa to End in December
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Old 2013-11-22, 04:23   Link #96
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ANN: The official website for the anime of Sayaka Mogi's horror manga Pupa began streaming the long version of the second promotional video on Friday. The video confirms that the weekly anime will premiere on TV Tokyo on Thursday, January 9 at 27:00 (effectively Friday, January 9 at 3:00 a.m.), after being delayed from this Fall. It will also begin streaming on the Niconico service on Friday, January 10 at 1:00 p.m.

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Old 2013-11-22, 07:10   Link #97
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ANN: The official website for the anime of Sayaka Mogi's horror manga Pupa began streaming the long version of the second promotional video on Friday. The video confirms that the weekly anime will premiere on TV Tokyo on Thursday, January 9 at 27:00 (effectively Friday, January 9 at 3:00 a.m.), after being delayed from this Fall. It will also begin streaming on the Niconico service on Friday, January 10 at 1:00 p.m.

The planned airdate itself is correct, but from what I watched the PV, it's confirmed to air on Tokyo MX instead of TV Tokyo.
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Old 2013-11-22, 07:22   Link #98
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The planned airdate itself is correct, but from what I watched the PV, it's confirmed to air on Tokyo MX instead of TV Tokyo.
Looks like ANN have since fixed that mistake on their page.
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Old 2013-11-22, 07:52   Link #99
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At last, we have a date and a broadcast station!

And Mamiko Noto joining the cast will make this even more interesting.

I still would like to know why it was pushed back a full season.
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Old 2013-11-22, 10:13   Link #100
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