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Old 2013-10-28, 22:01   Link #441
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If I remember correctly, Koneko is a power type, while Gasper is more of a power / support type.
oh ic thx ._. i dont what vol should i read T_T thx for the info
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Old 2013-10-28, 22:35   Link #442
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If I remember correctly, Koneko is a power type, while Gasper is more of a power / support type.
Actually, ever since Koneko started learning senjutsu she has been rated as a support type, since her primary duties are detection and back-up healer.
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Old 2013-10-29, 01:08   Link #443
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If I remember correctly, Koneko is a power type, while Gasper is more of a power / support type.
When did Gasper become a power type?

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Actually, ever since Koneko started learning senjutsu she has been rated as a support type, since her primary duties are detection and back-up healer.
Shouldn't that be more like a power/support type like Issei, since she's still a Rook that specializes in martial arts?

Actually if she masters senjutsu, she could do well as a wizard type too.
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Old 2013-10-29, 01:12   Link #444
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When did Gasper become a power type?



Shouldn't that be more like a power/support type like Issei, since she's still a Rook that specializes in martial arts?

Actually if she masters senjutsu, she could do well as a wizard type too.
probably when gasper release his Dark shadow thing we dont know yet if its wizard ability or power ability
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Old 2013-10-29, 09:16   Link #445
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When did Gasper become a power type?

Shouldn't that be more like a power/support type like Issei, since she's still a Rook that specializes in martial arts?

Actually if she masters senjutsu, she could do well as a wizard type too.
Actually, Gasper was never a power type. If anything he would be a wizard-support type.

And for Koneko, you'd think so but she really doesn't fight with her hands much anymore.
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Old 2013-10-29, 21:46   Link #446
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Hmm, you know, I think power types should be added to the profile thread. As Technique, Power, Healing/Support have all been mentioned in the novels to describe the individuals of the various teams. Like for example, Ise is described as a power type with some support capabilities, and Asia is strictly healing/support since she has no fighting capability of her own, even with Rasse and Fafnir.

Good idea, Bad Idea?
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Old 2013-10-29, 21:55   Link #447
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Hmm, you know, I think power types should be added to the profile thread. As Technique, Power, Healing/Support have all been mentioned in the novels to describe the individuals of the various teams. Like for example, Ise is described as a power type with some support capabilities, and Asia is strictly healing/support since she has no fighting capability of her own, even with Rasse and Fafnir.

Good idea, Bad Idea?
its a good idea however we dont know other chars types though.... unless we deeply scan the ln on how they fight or hints

like arthur i dont what his type

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Old 2013-10-29, 22:19   Link #448
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You don't need to know everyone's type, just use what we have. Like Sona's team would primarily be technique and support types, even Saji since he's got Vitra, but compared to the rest of his team, he's a power type. And that's the only place I can see any confusion. Comparison to your own comrades, and comparison to others. But some of the cast have been concretely mentioned as one type or another.

Kiba = Technique (with power type growth)
Xenovia = Power (with technique type growth potential)
Ise = Power (with Support type growth)
Asia = Healing (with power/support growth potential)
Rias = Wizard (with power type growth)
Akeno = Wizard (with power/technque type growth)
Koneko = Power (with wizard/technique type growth)
Gasper = Support (with power/technique type growth)
Ravel = Unknown at this time
Irina = Unknown
Sona = Technique/Wizard (with power type growth potential)

Etc. etc.

If we can tune the roster to have more info-at-a-glance like this, more power to us, you know? Anyone who reads this is free to add any info, but if possible, add a reference from light novel volume and chapter to help site sources. The above information is only an example based solely on memory, so it's possible to be incorrect in places.
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Old 2013-10-29, 22:21   Link #449
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You don't need to know everyone's type, just use what we have. Like Sona's team would primarily be technique and support types, even Saji since he's got Vitra, but compared to the rest of his team, he's a power type. And that's the only place I can see any confusion. Comparison to your own comrades, and comparison to others. But some of the cast have been concretely mentioned as one type or another.

Kiba = Technique (with power type growth)
Xenovia = Power (with technique type growth potential)
Ise = Power (with Support type growth)
Asia = Healing (with power/support growth potential)
Rias = Wizard (with power type growth)
Akeno = Wizard (with power/technque type growth)
Koneko = Power (with wizard/technique type growth)
Gasper = Support (with power/technique type growth)
Ravel = Unknown at this time
Irina = Unknown
Sona = Wizard (with power type growth potential)

Etc. etc.

If we can tune the roster to have more info-at-a-glance like this, more power to us, you know?
actually sona is Wizard close to tech or vise versa tech close to wizard shown in vol 5 and vol 15 respectively
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Corrected before you posted.
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Old 2013-10-29, 22:37   Link #451
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hmm thx gonna compile that in that tread though gonna scan a bit if there artificial sg is power/tech/support/wizard :P
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Yea, also confer with Somethingdarker to get second opinion, and third opinions from whomever else who's reread the LNs recently.
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Old 2013-11-04, 19:53   Link #453
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Yea, also confer with Somethingdarker to get second opinion, and third opinions from whomever else who's reread the LNs recently.
yup i will do that once i finish compiling all the info for easy edit

one quick question on hs dxd wikia on fallen angel info im confuse what is cadre? is it leader just trying to google translate so far no luck
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Old 2013-11-04, 19:59   Link #454
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yup i will do that once i finish compiling all the info for easy edit

one quick question on hs dxd wikia on fallen angel info im confuse what is cadre? is it leader just trying to google translate so far no luck
In what context? Do you just want the definition or is it a name?
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Old 2013-11-04, 20:18   Link #455
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In what context? Do you just want the definition or is it a name?
definition,

on light novel the other top member are called leaders,
  • Armaros
  • Sahariel
  • Penemue
  • Tamiel

on wikia Kokabiel is cadre, on light novel it said there one of leaders, never seen cadre in ln translation so im bit confuse on what is a cadre

my question is cadre=leader ?

edit: nvm ._. i know now cadre is a group of people having some unifying relationship , so i put this way cadre is a group of leaders in grigori?
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Old 2013-11-30, 05:16   Link #456
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I got some questions here:

1. How long Issei can maintain his [Scale Mail]? [Cardinal Crimson Full Drive]? Can he turn off [Cardinal Crimson Full Drive] and back to [Scale Mail] at the same time?

2. When Issei uses his [Transfer] in normal state or in [Scale Mail], how long said [Boost] can maintain? Like, he [Transfer] to Kiba and how long Kiba can keep boosted state? Can Issei use the [Boost] on himself day 1, then save it up to day 2? Like a grown item.

3. How strong is [Longinus Smasher]? Oneshot-city or more?

4. If Issei dragonificated (transforming arms, legs, torso, etc into dragon-like) himself inside [Scale Mail] and [Cardinal Crimson Full Drive], would it increase his power input or compatible with [Boosted Gear]? (can use [Boost], [Transfer] easier, less stamina be consumed).

5. How many percent power Ddraig get now? What he has now is only his soul. So I don't think [Cardinal Crimson Full Drive] can reach Ddraig Prime.
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I got some questions here:

1. How long Issei can maintain his [Scale Mail]? [Cardinal Crimson Full Drive]? Can he turn off [Cardinal Crimson Full Drive] and back to [Scale Mail] at the same time?

2. When Issei uses his [Transfer] in normal state or in [Scale Mail], how long said [Boost] can maintain? Like, he [Transfer] to Kiba and how long Kiba can keep boosted state? Can Issei use the [Boost] on himself day 1, then save it up to day 2? Like a grown item.

3. How strong is [Longinus Smasher]? Oneshot-city or more?

4. If Issei dragonificated (transforming arms, legs, torso, etc into dragon-like) himself inside [Scale Mail] and [Cardinal Crimson Full Drive], would it increase his power input or compatible with [Boosted Gear]? (can use [Boost], [Transfer] easier, less stamina be consumed).

5. How many percent power Ddraig get now? What he has now is only his soul. So I don't think [Cardinal Crimson Full Drive] can reach Ddraig Prime.
1. We don't have an updated exact limit anymore, but he should be able to maintain Scale Mail for at least a full day. Basically, its not a problem. CCQ is limited to like 5-10 minutes, but its still unstable and fluctuates. As for getting back in Scale Mail, theres no rule that says he can't get back into it right away assuming he has power left when he cancels CCQ.

2. Depends on how they use it. Theres no set time frame. It depends on how quickly the recipient uses up the boosted power they were transferred. It doesn't last indefinitely at any rate, so there is no "saving it for another day."

3. When combined with Great Red, Longinus Smasher was said to be able to destroy the Underworld. It was able to almost kill Shalba, a Maou-level Devil, when he used it while berserking with Juggernaut Drive. He hasn't unlocked using it on his own yet, but I would guess it to be at least city-destruction level.

4. Well, Issei can't dragonify more than a single limb at present, but it stands to reason that it would massively increase the returns from the BG in any form. The final power is derived from his base stats, and his dragon limb is much stronger than his human ones. That's why a full dragonification is a common theory for a future power-up for Ise.

5. Ise has unlocked the full-power of Ddraig from his prime in the form of CCQ, but he is not capable of using all of it at present. Ddraig can only supply what Ise can handle.
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Old 2013-12-01, 00:24   Link #458
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Thanks bludvein, I have another questions:

Anyone know or has made a event timeline of High school DxD? Like the date Issei died the first time, then how long had it been till he went to the Underworld?

How long Kiba's [Sword Birth] and [Blade Blacksmith] can maintain? For example, Kiba creates a Holy-Demonic Sword, then that sword exists forever or disappears after sometimes?

Issei can create sub-species for his [Balance Breaker], would he lose his original [Scale Mail] if he got another [Balance Breaker] completely different from the first one? Sacred Gear powered by emotion and desire, so can Issei create a shield on his left arm, or a sword, spear, axe, etc when inside his [Scale Mail]? Can Issei flying and shooting at the same time?
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Thanks bludvein, I have another questions:

Anyone know or has made a event timeline of High school DxD? Like the date Issei died the first time, then how long had it been till he went to the Underworld?

How long Kiba's [Sword Birth] and [Blade Blacksmith] can maintain? For example, Kiba creates a Holy-Demonic Sword, then that sword exists forever or disappears after sometimes?

Issei can create sub-species for his [Balance Breaker], would he lose his original [Scale Mail] if he got another [Balance Breaker] completely different from the first one? Sacred Gear powered by emotion and desire, so can Issei create a shield on his left arm, or a sword, spear, axe, etc when inside his [Scale Mail]? Can Issei flying and shooting at the same time?
Kiba gave a holy demonic sword to the Angels so they can research and replicate it so I think once a creates a sword it's permanent unless he willingly recalls it.

I don't think that he'd lose his [Scale Mail]. Kiba is able to create any type of sword he wants whether elemental, holy or demonic even though he got a subspecies. The same goes for his second [Sacred Gear] with his [Holy Knights] and [Holy Dragon Knights] at least as far as I can tell. Issei is able to fly when he let's Ddraig handle it. Issei can't create weapons or shields. He can use magical defense magic theoretically and can manipulate his armor to change shape and density depending on his form.

Also I just got back from a world tour of sorts! It's good to be back and it looks like I got some catching up to do!
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Old 2013-12-03, 11:41   Link #460
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Thanks Somethindarker, more questions:

1. How strong is Ex-Durandal? When Xenovia completely controls it would she be able to fight on par with Gods? Or lower-class like Ultimate Devil, Dragon-King, Archangel?

2. Is there a dark-type element compare to light-type element Angel use? The Devil only uses nature-type element if I remember correctly, I'm not typing about Gasper here.

3. In Triana mode, Issei uses the Mutated chess pieces to power them up, so, are the stats below here correct?
Knight: high speed, medium strength, low shield.
Bishop: medium speed, high strength, medium shield. (Can Issei uses other moves like quick Dragon Shots in this mode? Or he can only use Dragon Blaster?)
Rook: low speed, high strength, high shield. (Can Issei fly in this mode? The same quesiton with the Bishop's case.)

4. The [Boost] ability, can it [Transfer] to environment or matter? Like increasing the oxygen when you're low on it? Would the enemies's breasts become the same battery as Rias if Issei uses [Boost] on them?
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