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View Poll Results: Valvrave the Liberator 2 - Episode 10 Rating
Perfect 10 14 21.88%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 24 37.50%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 15 23.44%
7 out of 10 : Good 11 17.19%
6 out of 10 : Average 0 0%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2013-12-12, 14:16   Link #61
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I think mangakid understands the purpose; it just feels kind of cheap since people don't get the benefit of such in real life. I personally don't usually care for such things but I'll reserve judgement.
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Old 2013-12-12, 14:19   Link #62
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I disagree. Considering the massive influx of despair we got from episode 16-21, its good to see something positive for a change.
... it was a joke.

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Shoko finds out how and why Haruto became a Kamitsuki, Haruto finds out that he killed Shoko's dad, A-Drei finds out that L-Elf didn't shoot him, and L-Elf finds out that Lise was a Magius(?), This is the one I'm not 100% on.
Yep, and then he figures out that what she wanted coexistence between Magius and Humans, hence the new resolve.
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Old 2013-12-12, 14:22   Link #63
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Yep, and then he figures out that what she wanted coexistence between Magius and Humans, hence the new resolve.

I'm looking forward to actually being able to read whatever says when this finally gets subbed, but just watching it was nice to. I had to keep myself from cheering when Saki showed up.
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Old 2013-12-12, 14:24   Link #64
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I think mangakid understands the purpose; it just feels kind of cheap since people don't get the benefit of such in real life. I personally don't usually care for such things but I'll reserve judgement.
I do understand it's relevance, but like you said, I find it very cheap. I think of it as an instant fix for despair, which we all know isn't possible outside the anime world.

I don't like how it can make a suicidal character suddenly become motivated enough to want to form an empire.

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... it was a joke.
My bad. I couldn't tell it was a joke. [lol or jk would've helped though]


OT: Personally, I found A-Drei's encounter with X to be a bit sad. Hopefully that scene doesn't go south & maybe X shares with him what he learnt from H's earring recording.

Saki's last minute save was also very touching. I'm glad she can still smile after all that shit she's been through.
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Old 2013-12-12, 14:25   Link #65
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He swore that he'll build a nation for coexistence. Maybe Haruto should have spoken of this a little earlier...
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Old 2013-12-12, 14:29   Link #66
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He swore that he'll build a nation for coexistence. Maybe Haruto should have spoken of this a little earlier...
Nah, if he'd spoken up earlier, he wouldn't have the protection of the spacesuit to keep him from getting bloodied & battered...Besides, Sunrise was waiting for the drama to build up before L-Elf snapped back into place...lol
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Old 2013-12-12, 14:29   Link #67
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He swore that he'll build a nation for coexistence. Maybe Haruto should have spoken of this a little earlier...
Fine, fine L-elf you can build that nation but make sure to at least to kill Cain and wipe out the Council of 101. (But it become a empire in the future, I still kind of doubt the coexistence thing)
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Old 2013-12-12, 14:30   Link #68
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Maybe Haruto should have spoken of this a little earlier...
If he could... after all L11's all emo after what had happen to Lise...
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Old 2013-12-12, 14:31   Link #69
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Fine, fine L-elf you can build that nation but make sure to at least to kill Cain and wipe out the Council of 101.
They will stand on his way. Anyway, Cain and L-Elf rivalry/fixation is always a theme.
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Old 2013-12-12, 14:34   Link #70
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My bad. I couldn't tell it was a joke. [lol or jk would've helped though]
There was an emoticon ("xD"). But whatever, typical written format misunderstanding

Agreed on the Newtype ghosts btw, it always makes me think "bad writing". Though in L-Elf's case I'm not sure it wasn't just for visual clarification, since he already figured stuff out and pretty much made up his mind before that.
In Haruto's case though... geez, he needed extensive dialogue with not one but three ghosts
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Old 2013-12-12, 14:37   Link #71
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In their defense they were running out of oxygen and probably hallucinating. Not to mention they were unnaturally giddy and friendly later on. Eruerufu was even chuckling and joking around wow.
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Old 2013-12-12, 14:37   Link #72
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Though "You give me too much credit" was one of the funniest Valvrave moments, I'm looking forward to L-Elf making a comeback. Always love that type of character arc.
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Old 2013-12-12, 14:39   Link #73
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There was an emoticon ("xD"). But whatever, typical written format misunderstanding

Agreed on the Newtype ghosts btw, it always makes me think "bad writing". Though in L-Elf's case I'm not sure it wasn't just for visual clarification, since he already figured stuff out and pretty much made up his mind before that.
In Haruto's case though... geez, he needed extensive dialogue with not one but three ghosts
My bad. I only now noticed the emoticon when I cycled back through the posts... *tee hee* lol

I will forever hate the concept of newtype ghosts. Its basically the writer's shortcut out of properly dealing with the character's despair.

Well, L-Elf basically reached the conclusion & the Lise ghosts sealed the deal. Not as cheesy Haruto though. Not only did he need three ghosts. He also needed the classic "looking at myself" scene, therefore using all the cliches in the book to justify his resolve.


Btw, In that L-Elf/A-Drei flashback. Its nice to see that L wasn't always a stoic SoB. The dude could make kind facial expressions & even laugh like that. It was refreshing to see.
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Old 2013-12-12, 15:41   Link #74
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L-Elf's situation is actually interesting
He said he would build a nation where Kamitsuki and Humans can live together
but I wonder if that's following Lieselotte's will accurately

Kamitsuki are different from Magius.
Kamitsuki are humans that have artificially been given Magius traits.
Kamitsuki only spend their runes if they pilot. Marie is an example of this.
They're not quite the same race.

Also there's only 4 Kamitsuki right now.
That's not much coexistence if you only cater to the needs of 4 Kamitsuki
I'm going to guess that by episode 24 we'll have a lot more Kamitsuki converts

Also, what's left of New Jior is 1 shuttle and 2 containers full of students.
I'm curious to see how this starts an Empire
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Old 2013-12-12, 15:50   Link #75
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L-Elf didn't take too kindly to Haruto calling his precious princess a monster like him.

I wonder how L-Elf didn't notice something was up her when she was glowing green and saving the rocket?
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Old 2013-12-12, 15:54   Link #76
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He said he would build a nation where Kamitsuki and Humans can live together
Wait wait, the Kamitsuki? I'm confused, which species did L-elf want to build a nation for coexistence with human? Magius or Kamitsuki?
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Old 2013-12-12, 16:06   Link #77
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Also, what's left of New Jior is 1 shuttle and 2 containers full of students.
I'm curious to see how this starts an Empire
They also have the Dorssian royalists who know that they don't own the ship.
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Old 2013-12-12, 16:08   Link #78
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Wait wait, the Kamitsuki? I'm confused, which species did L-elf want to build a nation for coexistence with human? Magius or Kamitsuki?
he explicitly said Kamitsuki
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he explicitly said Kamitsuki
So Haruto and L-elf can still exterminate the Magius? YES!!!!!
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Old 2013-12-12, 16:13   Link #80
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L-Elf's situation is actually interesting

Kamitsuki only spend their runes if they pilot.
They're not quite the same race.
there is a change on haruto body in today episode after defeated completely by L-elf with fist fight, haruto manages to toss him with barrier rune power....
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