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Old 2013-08-25, 19:50   Link #1061
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That confused me more than the Nen XD
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Old 2013-08-28, 03:48   Link #1062
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Whoever made that chart needs a better hobby >.>

I didn't read more than 6 words of it, btw.
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Old 2013-08-30, 16:00   Link #1063
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seems like a fair explanation
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Old 2013-08-30, 17:09   Link #1064
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Agreed. I dropped bleach but ti still bothers me that it should had stayed anime ghostbusters as opposed to being that shonen. Kubo didn't have to focus on every Soul Society and cahracters at the cost of the core (Renji, Chao, Orihime and Uryuu) cast but it is a Japanese manga for Japanese fans so I cannot judge it. The Japanese Bleach fans really like the Soul Society characters so they get more focus.
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Old 2013-11-06, 14:45   Link #1065
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I think one big problem is that Kubo is afraid of focusing on human relationships. I mean the death of Ichigo's mother could have been worse if we had actually seen her talking with Isshin. I think the only reason we had that flashback was to explain Ichigo's true zanpakuto was the hollow. Ichigo and Rukia had a strong bond early in the series but now the friendzone is super strong. Ichigo's current comrades are shinigamis he barely talks to.

While I know many complain the female characters have it really bad I think Hitman Reborn treated them far worse. (no, seriously, try liking a female character there)
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Old 2013-11-08, 17:09   Link #1066
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Agreed. I dropped bleach but ti still bothers me that it should had stayed anime ghostbusters as opposed to being that shonen. Kubo didn't have to focus on every Soul Society and cahracters at the cost of the core (Renji, Chao, Orihime and Uryuu) cast but it is a Japanese manga for Japanese fans so I cannot judge it. The Japanese Bleach fans really like the Soul Society characters so they get more focus.
sounds like Kubo should have went the Young Justice route.

Ichigo, Renji, Orohime, Rukia, Chad, Uryuu = Young Justice that takes care of lower to mid level threats

Gotei 13 = Justice League that takes care of bigger threats
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Old 2013-11-09, 00:29   Link #1067
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sounds like Kubo should have went the Young Justice route.

Ichigo, Renji, Orohime, Rukia, Chad, Uryuu = Young Justice that takes care of lower to mid level threats

Gotei 13 = Justice League that takes care of bigger threats
That would be a good thing except that it is shonen and shone is all about battle and what not. That is actually a good idea though, Gotei 13 could deal with the big threats while Young Justice could deal with the little threats.
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Old 2013-11-10, 21:51   Link #1068
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I don't read too much shonen manga....but I swear to god that this is the only series that I've read that the mangaka continues to crap on EVERYONE in the cast just to amp up certain characters. And the only series in which the creator pretty much throws the main cast aside to focus more on the supporting cast.

I wish SJ would just cancel this already.
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Old 2013-11-14, 02:55   Link #1069
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Nice, structured explanation.
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Old 2013-11-14, 21:31   Link #1070
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Spoiler for Bleach manga chpater something-something:
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Old 2013-12-18, 22:53   Link #1071
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2. The introduction of the Vizards and Shinji. It's redundant no matter how you look at it. The "new mysterious transfer student" thing wears thin after the first time. Furthermore, their participation up to now just blows, like why even make all of them, if you are never going to do anything with them.

6. Ichigo's lack of character development. You'd figure that after assaulting two places, (Soul Society, Las Noches) he'd get the picture that you simply can't win with the idea of "wanting to save your friends". Zaraki, Dordoni, and Grimmjow have all said that his attitude is the reason why he is weak, because he never fights for himself. If he always relies on the feelings and situations of other people, how the hell can he ever defeat anyone? But I might be wrong about this one.
Your other points are good but I just want to focus on these 2. Even in this final arc the vizards are getting brushed aside by the token characters. Its too late to save the viards face now even if the other don't screw up that badly.

Ichigo is the 3rd worst protag that I have read in shonen. I did have a discussion with 2 other people before about this one of them is very much in fanboyism with the Ichigo character unfortunately.
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Old 2013-12-18, 23:04   Link #1072
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It is the series greatest attribute and the series greatest folly.
True.

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this is what went wrong in bleach. an explanation like this is needed to describe the main character's power...

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This is pretty good.

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sounds like Kubo should have went the Young Justice route.

Ichigo, Renji, Orohime, Rukia, Chad, Uryuu = Young Justice that takes care of lower to mid level threats

Gotei 13 = Justice League that takes care of bigger threats
omg this would have been perfect.

Deal with menos like gillians to adjuchas level. While the captains deal with vastro lorde level threats.

I have thguht of this since after the ss arc. Good to know I'm not the only one.
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Old 2013-12-18, 23:57   Link #1073
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this is what went wrong in bleach. an explanation like this is needed to describe the main character's power...

This is nice. Who made this?
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Old 2013-12-19, 23:47   Link #1074
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This is nice. Who made this?
unfortunately i have no idea
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Old 2013-12-25, 11:40   Link #1075
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Chad should have taken over the fullbring arc. instead they are all just useless like rukia now
I know. When Chad's power was revealed back in HM and then FB arc came along I thought I was in for something sweet. And then shit hit the fan.
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It was also annoying how Rukia is becoming the series' Yamcha next to Sado since she has been beaten several times.
And well this. But then again there is always a "Yamcha" of any series almost mind you.

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Main problem with Bleach is its character cast. THERE ARE TOO DAMN MUCH!

The reason why I can't bring myself to like most of them is due to the miniscule panel time they get.
Agreed. Btw aren't you the same person on that other forum? One that shall not be named?
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