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 2013-12-21, 20:55 Link #9821 MCAL Senior Member     Join Date: Oct 2012 Remember you eventual complainers.... "This is the manga you are reading!"
 2013-12-21, 22:37 Link #9822 ices Working Hard     Join Date: Sep 2012 "This isn't stealth marketing. It's blatant marketing" LOL
 2013-12-21, 22:54 Link #9823 madmac Senior Member   Join Date: Apr 2010 "On shelves now!" (This is literally true.) Oh Hata. A plot chapter would have been extra frustrating with the back to back double issues, so I don't mind really.
 2013-12-21, 22:56 Link #9824 GDB Senior Member     Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 30 For the second hand, I don't think Hina's logic works. Assuming the game is two of each number is transparent, then: Miki shows transparent Q9, three unknowns. Hina had a transparent 9 and discarded a solid 9. Meaning if Miki had a full house, one of the unknowns would have to be a solid 9. This leaves two unknowns, which would have to be queens. But... nothing in Hina's logic states why one of those queens would have to be transparent. Logically, there are two solid queens still in the deck. Also, whooo naked Izumi.
 2013-12-22, 05:16 Link #9825 Kakurin-san 私は影の国の女王、異境、魔境の主     Join Date: Jun 2013 Ungh, Hata sure likes to tease us. Throwing a filler chapter, although I won't complain much because of Hina. She sure is ruthless with her competitiveness. __________________
2013-12-22, 08:59   Link #9826
ChronoReverse
Senior Member

Join Date: May 2004
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 Originally Posted by GDB For the second hand, I don't think Hina's logic works. Assuming the game is two of each number is transparent, then: Miki shows transparent Q9, three unknowns. Hina had a transparent 9 and discarded a solid 9. Meaning if Miki had a full house, one of the unknowns would have to be a solid 9. This leaves two unknowns, which would have to be queens. But... nothing in Hina's logic states why one of those queens would have to be transparent. Logically, there are two solid queens still in the deck. Also, whooo naked Izumi.
The only thing I can think of is that Hina already had one of the queens in the first round and they don't reshuffle unless the deck is exhausted.

 2013-12-22, 12:30 Link #9827 ChampDream Alive     Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: in my really nice house really like the poker game, hina was showing who the boss is and izumi was obediently stripping. __________________
2013-12-26, 17:02   Link #9828
AstroNerdBoy
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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 Originally Posted by MCAL Remember you eventual complainers.... "This is the manga you are reading!"
*LOL*

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 Originally Posted by ices "This isn't stealth marketing. It's blatant marketing" LOL
Yeah, I liked that blatant admission. ^_^

I can't say I'm tempted to buy the LE tankoubon just to get a deck of cards, but I keep being tempted by those tasty Christmas pictures in the last LE volume.
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 2014-01-02, 10:52 Link #9829 AstroNerdBoy Senior Member     Join Date: Apr 2004 Sorry for the double post (not a nonsense bump), but THE NEW CHAPTER IS OUT!!! Hata-sensei did what I hoped - he went back to the plot and I squealed. Spoiler for chapter not released officially: Man, I need to reread the entire manga again. It really is a shame that Viz isn't selling that many of the title. __________________ -->AstroNerdBoy's Anime and Manga Blog -- New URL/Platform! -->Tenchi Muyo! FAQ
 2014-01-02, 10:53 Link #9830 mitsuganae Senior Member   Join Date: Mar 2009 Aaaaaand the plot __________ens. (Fill in as necessary.)
 2014-01-02, 11:43 Link #9831 GDB Senior Member     Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 30 That first guy, that's the guy who becomes Nagi's manga sensei, isn't it? Arabashi or whatever? Wow, "Santa" really saved his life. Also, obligatory cute Hina is cute, and cursed Hayate is cursed. ...are we sure Hayate doesn't have Imagine Breaker?
2014-01-02, 12:40   Link #9832
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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 Man, I need to reread the entire manga again. It really is a shame that Viz isn't selling that many of the title.
I'm assuming this takes place before Athena got herself trapped in the Royal Garden somehow. I don't think that was ever really addressed previously, other then oblique references to her parents dying.

I hear you on the Viz thing. I've been collecting them as they come out but they haven't even finished the Mykonos arc yet! The manga will be over before they get through the doujin arc at this rate.

 2014-01-02, 18:24 Link #9833 ChampDream Alive     Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: in my really nice house interesting chapter, "santa" sure was busy that day and bad luck Hayate really is unlucky. __________________
2014-01-02, 21:04   Link #9834
AstroNerdBoy
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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 Originally Posted by madmac I'm assuming this takes place before Athena got herself trapped in the Royal Garden somehow. I don't think that was ever really addressed previously, other then oblique references to her parents dying.
Interesting. So for some reason, Athena is at the Sanzenin main mansion that is the residence of Mikado. Mikado does his Santa-san thing to get themselves a candidate to enter the Royal Garden. However, how does Ah-tan get up there based on the conditions listed? Maybe her parent's death was the catalyst, but then what was the plan? Why leave her up there alone?

I like your theory, but there are questions no matter how things play out.

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 I hear you on the Viz thing. I've been collecting them as they come out but they haven't even finished the Mykonos arc yet! The manga will be over before they get through the doujin arc at this rate.
I guess not enough people buy it, which frustrates me. However, I have noticed that many people who watch the anime have no interest in reading the manga. *sigh*

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 Originally Posted by ChampDream interesting chapter, "santa" sure was busy that day and bad luck Hayate really is unlucky.
I like how this is obviously going to tie back to the first volume where Hayate remembers what Santa-san told him ten years earlier. I also like how Hina and Yukiji were shown as were as Sensei.
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2014-01-02, 22:36   Link #9835
GDB
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Age: 30
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 Originally Posted by AstroNerdBoy I guess not enough people buy it, which frustrates me. However, I have noticed that many people who watch the anime have no interest in reading the manga. *sigh*
That started it, but they're perpetuating it. I'm going to drop it once I get volume 25 or 26 (whichever the end of the Greece arc is), since I can't stand this 6 months per release crap with no guarantee they won't drop it.

2014-01-03, 00:13   Link #9836
dniv
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Join Date: May 2013
Location: AZ
Quote:
 Originally Posted by AstroNerdBoy Interesting. So for some reason, Athena is at the Sanzenin main mansion that is the residence of Mikado. Mikado does his Santa-san thing to get themselves a candidate to enter the Royal Garden. However, how does Ah-tan get up there based on the conditions listed? Maybe her parent's death was the catalyst, but then what was the plan? Why leave her up there alone? I like your theory, but there are questions no matter how things play out. I guess not enough people buy it, which frustrates me. However, I have noticed that many people who watch the anime have no interest in reading the manga. *sigh* I like how this is obviously going to tie back to the first volume where Hayate remembers what Santa-san told him ten years earlier. I also like how Hina and Yukiji were shown as were as Sensei.
Actually I picked up the manga recently and only then realized that it was so much better than the anime (because it had a story) (though I loved the anime for what it was)

2014-01-03, 00:30   Link #9837
AstroNerdBoy
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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 Originally Posted by GDB That started it, but they're perpetuating it. I'm going to drop it once I get volume 25 or 26 (whichever the end of the Greece arc is), since I can't stand this 6 months per release crap with no guarantee they won't drop it.
Actually, my understanding is that Viz is stuck with it. The licensing agreement is for the entire manga series with no option to drop it. So to mitigate their losses on the manga, they just release two volumes a year and have done. Unfortunately, as you stated, they are perpetuating the losses.

Seven Seas or Kodansha Comics say they won't license a big series because they'd be stuck with it if it doesn't sell. If a manga publisher in the US starts a title that turns out to be long, that's one thing. But a title like Coppelion, which Crunchyroll picked up, won't ever see a print version because no publisher will take the risk. Plus, with that many volumes out already, new fans would have a massive expense in trying to get current. ^_^;;;

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 Originally Posted by dniv Actually I picked up the manga recently and only then realized that it was so much better than the anime (because it had a story) (though I loved the anime for what it was)
And Viz has mostly done a good job with it, though it could use serious translator notes for the parody references, when they happen.

I was fortunate in that I got into the manga early on. I watched the first season of the anime, loved it, but folks kept saying, "the manga is sooo much better" and they were right.
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 2014-01-03, 02:14 Link #9838 Kon the Magnificent Senior Member     Join Date: Jun 2009 Teenage Yukiji!!!!!!!!!!! I had a feeling Yukiji would appear this chapter. I just didn't think we be in the past. Santa you bastard. If you weren't such a failure I would hate you. To think Mikado Santa would help shape the future of sensei. Yukiji kicked Santa!
 2014-01-03, 04:30 Link #9839 ~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku     Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 24 finally SANTA's identity is revealed... now, how did A-tan trapped in the palace?? hahaha
 2014-01-03, 08:41 Link #9840 Sol Falling Senior Member     Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 27 lol, holy crap, a Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei reference. Considering Hata being a former assistant of Kumeta is the whole reason I started reading the manga in the first place, that's totally awesome and pretty bro of Hata. I dunno if my recollection of the manga is that perfect, but this is the first time Hata's made that reference, right? __________________ Seasonal enjoyment ratings: Yama no Susume 100/5 :: Sora no Method 20/5 :: Shirobako 20/5 :: Yuuki Yuuna 15/5 :: Mushishi S2 90/5 Winter: Yuri Kuma Arashi 24/5 :: Kancolle 24/5 :: Koufuku Graffiti 80/5 God-tier yuri oneshot mangaka: Minase Ruruu Sonohana twitter follow campaign: mikajyo_info :: rewards (anime adaptation if they reach 50000!!) Exceptional shoujo manga: Last Game

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