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Old 2014-01-21, 10:25   Link #1041
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I was seriously reading the new update with excitement but when I read what Ddraig said about how he and Albion are the only heavenly dragons that are cornered with breast & butt I was like WTF? in a situation like that he shouts how he and Albion became a pitiful dragon instead.
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Old 2014-01-21, 10:28   Link #1042
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Hmm, maybe Albion or Vali's approval? Or maybe it doesn't have any requirement at all.
I wonder what would be the name of the new move.
Regarding it's name, [Dividing Dragons], is the only thing, that comes to my mind, at the moment.

As for it, requiring Vali's or Albion's approval ... personally, I think that would be too restrictive - for both Ise and Vali, who are still rivals, after all ... despite the fact that Albion and Ddraig reached, an understanding, due to the Oppai Dragon stuff.

So maybe it doesn't have any requirements ... apart from Ise needing a sufficient level of stamina to maintain and control, this ability - time, will tell, how the author is going to resolve this.
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Old 2014-01-21, 10:36   Link #1043
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Yeah. That's what I thought too. That's why I added the no requirement thing at the end.
Good thing Issei has now sufficient knowledge regarding the use of Sacred Gears, where he didn't rely on Ddraig to explain everything but he himself found out how to use the new move.
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Old 2014-01-21, 11:02   Link #1044
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Speaking about abilities ... the recent unlocking of Ise's ability ... made me wonder, just how many restrictions the Gremory team is going to have, once Rias can actually participate in the official rating tournament - No, scratch that previous statement ... I'm even wondering, if they are going to be allowed to participate in the official Rating Game.

After all, almost all of the abilities that the Gremory team members have recently unlocked are either too deadly to be allowed in the Rating Game (like Gasper's Balor power or Koneko's "Shirone mode") or make the competition a little unfair to the other team (I think that the form that Albion's stolen power has taken, can be considered as that, since Ise can just send them over to the other teams base, and instantly eliminate them, by using their own power against them - since, I think it can reflect the power of others as well, not just reflect Ise's own power.

Even if that isn't possible ... the white dragons can definitely be used as a tactic that would be disadvantageous to the enemy team.)

And ... this, even isn't the end of the Gremory team's power development...
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Old 2014-01-21, 11:12   Link #1045
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Poor Rias. She now has a really powerful team that may able to challenge, or maybe even conquer the games, but she won't be able to participate. haha

~Rias' team became like that because of Issei and his trait that attracts strong people. If the time comes that Issei can now have his own peerage, I wonder how strong his team would be?
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Old 2014-01-21, 11:18   Link #1046
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Looks like what Azazel said was will come true that before Rias starts to participate in official rating game Ise & Kiba will be ultimate class devils and it looks like it won't be just Ise & Kiba other members are also improving.
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Old 2014-01-21, 11:19   Link #1047
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While I think the mini-dragons are a useful power, they aren't so out there as to make a rating game unfair imo. The reflection can be beaten with a strong enough attack, and Ise only has a limited amount of uses. They also aren't autonomous, so he would have to keep them in sight in order to give them directions with his will. He can't just tell them to head over to enemy base and use the reflection when they are attacked.

I will agree some of the Gremory team's powers will be banned though. Gasper's Balor form is flat out OP for one. Not sure about Koneko's purification power, as holy swords are allowed. There is also Rias' sphere thing.
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Old 2014-01-21, 11:27   Link #1048
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~Rias' team became like that because of Issei and his trait that attracts strong people. If the time comes that Issei can now have his own peerage, I wonder how strong his team would be?
It's probably better to not think about that, since I think that Ise definitely has the potential to form a team that would be more powerful, then the combined strength of the teams that the current Maou's have - and the worst thing of all, is going to be the fact that all of them, are going to be bishoujo that would be 100% devoted to Ise - well, I'm probably exaggerating things, a little bit .

But still, I think that Ise definitely has the potential, to gather a team of pretty girls, that will be quite powerful, and have some pretty unique abilities. .
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Old 2014-01-21, 11:31   Link #1049
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Its still okay if Issei and Kiba will be Ultimate-class when Rias officially participates, but with the current events, it is possible that Issei would reach God-class.
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Old 2014-01-21, 17:22   Link #1050
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Why would Ise need a requirement to use this power, anyway? He already unlocked it, it's not like he needed a requirement to use the original stolen power of Albion.

The white dragons are a really cool power-up for Ise. I like how he learned how to use the new power himself instead of having Ddraig explain it to him. Looks like no more jokes about the poor Heavenly Dragons, but I'm glad they finally got that issue resolved. I felt bad for them. Now if Ise stops powering-up using breasts, I can stop feeling bad for Rias too.

Regarding Rias and the Rating Games... It's a definite that Ise will reach God-class by the time Rias officially enters the Rating Games, thanks to Sun Wukong. Rias and the rest of her team will be at Ultimate-Class level, and I think the only thing that will be banned is Gasper's Balor Forme. Koneko's Shirone Mode only has a high chance of killing the opponent if they have evil intentions, but even then it would just be an instant transportation to the medical room.

Rias will graduate once the third semester is over (which begins in Volume 19), so by the time she can officially enter the Rating Games it's safe to say there will be very few who will be able to stand in their way from the very beginning.
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Old 2014-01-21, 20:33   Link #1051
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Wow what a ending to a chapter, I don't think it could have been written any better it had everything.

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Poor Rias. She now has a really powerful team that may able to challenge, or maybe even conquer the games, but she won't be able to participate. haha
Where do you come up with Rias won't be able to compete.
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Old 2014-01-21, 21:33   Link #1052
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Wonder if Vali aslo acquired mini-dragons... but can boost.
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Old 2014-01-21, 21:33   Link #1053
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The Dragon Swarm is so like Swarm Host or Brood Lord in Starcraft 2.

And the whole "Rias cannot compete in Rating Game" isn't really convincing me. You know, the guy who thought up that Rating Game is the guy who enjoys the human's game industry, so, why not having 2 vs 1? Free for all? Or maybe Hero controlling style like LoL or DOTA? Siege mode, assault group vs castle defense group?

Seriously, letting a Satan with inventing hobby playing the game made by human is like telling him to bring those back into his Underworld, his Rating Game.
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Old 2014-01-21, 21:41   Link #1054
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Wonder if Vali aslo acquired mini-dragons... but can boost.
For that to happen he would have to have a part of Ddraig. And that hasn't happened. I think Vali is going to be really surprised.
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Old 2014-01-21, 22:03   Link #1055
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@jop Where do you come up with Rias won't be able to compete.
Ofc, I didn't mean that. That was meant as a joke since Rias' team is becoming more powerful as the series goes on and acquires techniques or new power ups that might be banned in the Rating games. That was the direction the conversation I was in was going. Try reading the post before my post that you quoted.

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  • CCQ is based on ZGMF-X10A Freedom Gundam. This explains why the cannons are hidden under his wings, unlike his Triaina Bishop where the cannons and backpack just materializes.
  • Issei's new move is based on the DRAGOON system of ZGMF-X20A Strike Freedom Gundam.

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Old 2014-01-21, 22:30   Link #1056
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Ofc, I didn't mean that. That was meant as a joke since Rias' team is becoming more powerful as the series goes on and acquires techniques or new power ups that might be banned in the Rating games. That was the direction the conversation I was in was going. Try reading the post before my post that you quoted.
No big deal was just asking.
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Old 2014-01-22, 10:58   Link #1057
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While I think the mini-dragons are a useful power, they aren't so out there as to make a rating game unfair imo. The reflection can be beaten with a strong enough attack, and Ise only has a limited amount of uses. They also aren't autonomous, so he would have to keep them in sight in order to give them directions with his will. He can't just tell them to head over to enemy base and use the reflection when they are attacked.

I will agree some of the Gremory team's powers will be banned though. Gasper's Balor form is flat out OP for one. Not sure about Koneko's purification power, as holy swords are allowed. There is also Rias' sphere thing.
And who in the rating game is going to have a attack powerful enough to get though those dragons?
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Old 2014-01-22, 11:03   Link #1058
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Possibly some of the Ultimate Devils in the top 10?

From what I can tell, they only label a power as not usable if one of two things happen: #1: It will kill you so fast that the teleportation effect can't get you out so you can be healed (see Rias' Black Hole power) or #2: It is socially embarrassing to the extent that people might pull out if used (see Issei's Dress Break and Breast-Reading Powers).

I don't think outright power is a deal breaker unless, again, it will insta-kill you.
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Old 2014-01-22, 11:19   Link #1059
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Issei's only banned move by Rias is the Bilingual because it invades females' privacy. Dress Break is still allowed.
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Old 2014-01-22, 11:20   Link #1060
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Yeah, but they talked like it might be at first. Which is more or less what I mean. The social aspect.

(Frankly, I'm not surprised as it's also a game, as mentioned in the Sairaorg stuff. Stripping girls nude? Sure the crowd loves that, some of them.
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