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Old 2014-04-01, 07:51   Link #401
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I think, being virgin in this LN is so very doubtful... unless, the author give us hints of them being virgins...

(the doubtful ones for me is the nurse/doc and zest (what a waste))

reading stories with used goods depresses me
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Old 2014-04-01, 08:00   Link #402
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I think, being virgin in this LN is so very doubtful... unless, the author give us hints of them being virgins...

(the doubtful ones for me is the nurse/doc and zest (what a waste))

reading stories with used goods depresses me
Exactly which is why if the author adds used goods to the harem hes taking a chance for decreased sales. Fans dont like used goods
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Old 2014-04-01, 08:28   Link #403
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Exactly which is why if the author adds used goods to the harem hes taking a chance for decreased sales. Fans dont like used goods

if the author has that in mind, then, all we need now is the hints or any implications for the girls being fresh goods.

i dont know how this author thinks, but hopefully he wont do some experiments...
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Old 2014-04-01, 11:08   Link #404
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The worst part about it is that zolgear was an old mummy living on viagra.
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Old 2014-04-01, 11:28   Link #405
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Are the chapters monthly, bi-monthly or irregular?
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Old 2014-04-01, 11:45   Link #406
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I think the nurse is clean. I mean she's got quite the toned body but since Basara and her have age issues, then in a sense it should be fitting for an oneesan to start the long walk. after all, she DID that with him and thats something Mio cant even dare to do despite being stacked nor Yuki can because... well... yeah.

I wonder in Maria's case tho since she's a succubus. I won't be surprised she uses Basara's mind as a feeding source by showing him DELISHUS dreams if she can't still control her powers like NOT draining a guy when she's screw-feeding on him.
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Old 2014-04-01, 12:06   Link #407
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^i hope she really is clean... she seems very experienced, i mean, not by studying but physically experienced ... (btw, wats her name? i mean, the nurses name)
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Old 2014-04-01, 12:11   Link #408
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I think, being virgin in this LN is so very doubtful... unless, the author give us hints of them being virgins...

(the doubtful ones for me is the nurse/doc and zest (what a waste))

reading stories with used goods depresses me
I actually have a different opinion. I prefer the highschool girls to be virgins just to be with the main character.

But I hold a different opinion on adults. Adults with experience don't bother me.
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Old 2014-04-01, 13:52   Link #409
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Women in their mid-20's or older being virgins? Good luck with that delusion. Unless you're talking about Miu, or Yuki, in that case the author better watch it.
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Old 2014-04-01, 14:05   Link #410
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Women in their mid-20's or older being virgins? Good luck with that delusion. Unless you're talking about Miu, or Yuki, in that case the author better watch it.
Exactly my thoughts.
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Old 2014-04-01, 14:18   Link #411
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Women in their mid-20's or older being virgins? Good luck with that delusion. Unless you're talking about Miu, or Yuki, in that case the author better watch it.
OH MY, we got a bad-ass here applying real world logic to a LN.
I don't even touch the series, I'm just stating my thoughts after jumping threads.

The most logical thing to do to increase sales is to have an untouched harem. Heck I remember reading some threads on a couple japanese forums after Strike the Blood short story came out that some people raged for Yukina/Asagi having a daughter.
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Old 2014-04-01, 15:28   Link #412
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OH MY, we got a bad-ass here applying real world logic to a LN.
I don't even touch the series, I'm just stating my thoughts after jumping threads.

The most logical thing to do to increase sales is to have an untouched harem. Heck I remember reading some threads on a couple japanese forums after Strike the Blood short story came out that some people raged for Yukina/Asagi having a daughter.
Then what are you doing here?

There are a number of exceptions to the "untouched harem" cliche, such as the experienced older female character and the obvious slut.
You'd know that if you knew the first thing about this "LN logic" (which is actually an aberration of eroge tropes) you preach.

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Strike the Blood short story came out that some people raged for Yukina/Asagi having a daughter.
Trolls or genuine doofuses doing a poor imitation of the previous generation of otaku. Just a few years ago no one would've made a fuss out of the main character and the love interests getting together. Much less due to a timetraveling daughter from the future.
These Kannagi-era copycats need chill out and step down.
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Old 2014-04-01, 15:35   Link #413
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Then what are you doing here?

There are a number of exceptions to the "untouched harem" cliche, such as the experienced older female character and the obvious slut.
You'd know that if you knew the first thing about this "LN logic" (which is actually an aberration of eroge tropes) you preach.


Trolls or genuine doofuses doing a poor imitation of the previous generation of otaku. Just a few years ago no one would've made a fuss out of the main character and the love interests getting together. Much less due to a timetraveling daughter from the future.
These Kannagi-era copycats need chill out and step down.
Where does the trope of the main heroine being a slut apply? I've never come across a typical light novel like that. Well except the older lady from SHISHUNKI NA ADAM.

I knew the anime viewers of Campione had a problem with it. But I only thought it was cause the anime was bad. Not because of a main character hooking up with his harem. This is news to me.

It's no longer okay for the Main Character to get with his harem? Then whats the point of romance stories? Is the main character meant to not be specified ending up with anyone?

Is that why so many series lately have open ended endings instead of just picking a girl?!

My mind is blown. I'm kind of upset.
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Old 2014-04-01, 15:39   Link #414
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"Women in their mid-20's or older being virgins? Good luck with that delusion"
I don't think you understand that this is completely fiction, the author could do any thing he wants and to INCREASE his chance of BETTER SALES, he wouldn't add used goods to the harem. <--- LOGIC
Like I said its just a thought, its even possible.


Not everyone who has gone through high school, college, whatever you want to call it loses their virginity by that time.
Ever head of abstinence?


Also, I said I was just jumping threads, is it a crime to visit a shop and not buy anything? I guess so considering I can't go to threads and post what I think of the situation.

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Where does the trope of the main heroine being a slut apply? I've never come across a typical light novel like that. Well except the older lady from SHISHUNKI NA ADAM.

I knew the anime viewers of Campione had a problem with it. But I only thought it was cause the anime was bad. Not because of a main character hooking up with his harem. This is news to me.

It's no longer okay for the Main Character to get with his harem? Then whats the point of romance stories? Is the main character meant to not be specified ending up with anyone?

Is that why so many series lately have open ended endings instead of just picking a girl?!

My mind is blown. I'm kind of upset.
It depends on the type of show, seinin,shounen, shoujo, etc (age group wise)
Obviously those who are older won't care. But the younger ones will.
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Old 2014-04-01, 15:40   Link #415
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The person that came to my mind is the redhead fire girl from znt.

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Old 2014-04-01, 16:00   Link #416
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The person that came to my mind is the redhead fire girl from znt.
OH! You're right I totally forgot about her. She surprised me when I came across it. I liked her.

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"Women in their mid-20's or older being virgins? Good luck with that delusion"
I don't think you understand that this is completely fiction, the author could do any thing he wants and to INCREASE his chance of BETTER SALES, he wouldn't add used goods to the harem. <--- LOGIC
Like I said its just a thought, its even possible.

Also, I said I was just jumping threads, is it a crime to visit a shop and not buy anything? I guess so considering I can't go to threads and post what I think of the situation.

It depends on the type of show, seinin,shounen, shoujo, etc (age group wise)
Obviously those who are older won't care. But the younger ones will.
It's not a crime but a lot of shops certainly don't like it.

I'm mostly referring to shounen or mild seinin. When storylines are too adult they get hysterically dark. Like the minds of these writers can go to seem really low places and it can scare me.

Like any of the manga by Miyazaki Maya can really get under my skin for days.

Also if the reasons you're stating are the reasons of so many open endings in series lately, then I really am unhappy with this news.

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Old 2014-04-01, 16:09   Link #417
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@anonfr: No one said anything about the main girl being a slut. We're discussing Zest and the teacher. I too would be uncomfortable with the heroine being used goods. But depending on her story I'd let it pass.

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I'm not generalizing, I am just telling you that the chances of women of their age and good looks being virgins are nil. Zest might be, but only because she's a stoic amazoness archetype.

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It depends on the type of show, seinin,shounen, shoujo, etc (age group wise)
Obviously those who are older won't care. But the younger ones will.
That's not the case either. The typical shows that tend to attract the purity brigade are the slice of life comedies, preferably from the seinen demographic. Those are the kind of stories they latch onto. Unoffensive, mundane and vapid is best. Throw in some lesbian innuendo and you're good to go.
Even Bleach can pull off sluts and get away with it, to quote one from the Japanese fandom after an ambiguous panel where one of the villain females is seen buttoning up her shirt and pulling up her panties after seducing a grunt.

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah she's a bitch! But she's cute so I'll forgive it.
FYI: Bitch in Japanese slang refers to "mesu inu", implying sexual promiscuity. So in this case, slut.
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Old 2014-04-01, 16:24   Link #418
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@anonfr: No one said anything about the main girl being a slut. We're discussing Zest and the teacher. I too would be uncomfortable with the heroine being used goods. But depending on her story I'd let it pass.


FYI: Bitch in Japanese slang refers to "mesu inu", implying sexual promiscuity. So in this case, slut.
Ahh I misread what you posted. I think if its a story taking place with like, college students or people joining the workforce having I'd be okay with experienced characters. You know, it would make sense for those people to be having sex. Like Nozoki Ana for example. For most of the series everyone but the Main Heroine was not a virgin, and by the end of it neither was she.

I mean Kimi No Iru Machi had the fantasy stories of the main character getting it on with every other girl in the series, and that was apparently hugely popular.

That japanese slang sounds kind of mean. There seems to be a sort of Duality about sex in japanese culture. I mean, there's a huge porn industry and they can be treated like idols, but there's also a lot of widespread Prudence. I always found that fascinating.
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Old 2014-04-03, 06:31   Link #419
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Putting the dirty talk on hold for a moment(just a moment)

I don't know if this was discussed yet but, is Basara's mother part of the God Tribe, who is she?

Basara has that special power that no one else seems to have, and at the end of the volume 1 Jin said something that made me think this
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Who is "their"?, maybe a certain bloodline or certain members of the God Tribe have the special power <Banishing Shift>, before he used it he searched out the Heavenly Energy(whatever that means), well we won't know until the God Tribe or Basara's mother appears in the story.

I'm not stating any of this as fact but only speculation on my part.
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Old 2014-04-03, 21:16   Link #420
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