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Old 2014-04-28, 16:38   Link #641
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Truth Idea chose Issei's dream at that particular battle, not the spear itself.

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N0m@n responded to what the spear did with a spoiler.

Spoiler for spear:
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Old 2014-04-28, 17:11   Link #642
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Spoiler for for spear in 17:
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Old 2014-04-28, 17:15   Link #643
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Spoiler for for spear in 17:
I agree, it was Cao Cao helping the guys from the shadows.
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Old 2014-04-28, 18:02   Link #644
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I agree, it was Cao Cao helping the guys from the shadows.
Well it very well could be I cant wait till we get to that point.
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Old 2014-04-29, 08:04   Link #645
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If Cao Cao was to fight Dulio, wouldn't he be destroyed by the first spell that hit him? Combat Abilities aside, He is still only a human (assuming that is still the case since his vacation with Hades at least, otherwise he also looses the spear never mind just its will)

With that being said, in a fight, teleport or whatever else you wanna give him (assuming he can even use it in rapid succession long enough without some sort of taxing requirement) Dulio is a specialist of wide area combat, all he needs to do is basically carpet bomb the combat area with whatever element (lets go with lightning) and eventually he will get Cao Cao.

The human in Cao Cao is both his greatest strength (true longinus) and his greatest weakness (frail body - compared to supernatural beings at least)
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Old 2014-04-29, 08:13   Link #646
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If Cao Cao was to fight Dulio, wouldn't he be destroyed by the first spell that hit him? Combat Abilities aside, He is still only a human (assuming that is still the case since his vacation with Hades at least, otherwise he also looses the spear never mind just its will)

With that being said, in a fight, teleport or whatever else you wanna give him (assuming he can even use it in rapid succession long enough without some sort of taxing requirement) Dulio is a specialist of wide area combat, all he needs to do is basically carpet bomb the combat area with whatever element (lets go with lightning) and eventually he will get Cao Cao.

The human in Cao Cao is both his greatest strength (true longinus) and his greatest weakness (frail body - compared to supernatural beings at least)
You know caocao is a researcher tech type he will research Dulio until he ironed out a perfected plan to defeat him, even issei have a hard time with him, vali say he is strongest human in dxd ._., like what he did to gremory group 0_0

So it depend on variables if Dulio get him first but I believe caocao have counter plan against him unless Dulio do some unexpected that break caocao pefected research plan like issei did twice
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Old 2014-04-29, 08:32   Link #647
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You know caocao is a researcher tech type he will research Dulio until he ironed out a perfected plan to defeat him, even issei have a hard time with him, vali say he is strongest human in dxd ._., like what he did to gremory group 0_0

So it depend on variables if Dulio get him first but I believe caocao have counter plan against him unless Dulio do some unexpected that break caocao pefected research plan like issei did twice
True, some sort of ambush would work possibly

but like the saying goes, plans only go as planned until you begin your plan
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Old 2014-04-29, 09:14   Link #648
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If Cao Cao was to fight Dulio, wouldn't he be destroyed by the first spell that hit him? Combat Abilities aside, He is still only a human (assuming that is still the case since his vacation with Hades at least, otherwise he also looses the spear never mind just its will)

With that being said, in a fight, teleport or whatever else you wanna give him (assuming he can even use it in rapid succession long enough without some sort of taxing requirement) Dulio is a specialist of wide area combat, all he needs to do is basically carpet bomb the combat area with whatever element (lets go with lightning) and eventually he will get Cao Cao.

The human in Cao Cao is both his greatest strength (true longinus) and his greatest weakness (frail body - compared to supernatural beings at least)
normal human body's are frail but bodies of descendants of heros are on par with high class angels/devil Cao Cao is only frail compared to Ise and Vali in their BB state, compared to dulio's body cao cao should be about equal in endurance
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Old 2014-04-29, 09:43   Link #649
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normal human body's are frail but bodies of descendants of heros are on par with high class angels/devil Cao Cao is only frail compared to Ise and Vali in their BB state, compared to dulio's body cao cao should be about equal in endurance
No, they aren't. It depends on who their ancestors are.
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Old 2014-04-29, 10:35   Link #650
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No, they aren't. It depends on who their ancestors are.
Cao Cao, Georg, Heracles, seigfired's ancestors are all heroes written in legends
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Old 2014-04-29, 10:49   Link #651
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actually the original Cao Cao was more like a strategist and leader than a hardcore warrior or mage like the others
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Old 2014-04-29, 10:51   Link #652
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Cao Cao, Georg, Heracles, seigfired's ancestors are all heroes written in legends
Faust is not a hero and he's not a warrior like Heracles and Siegfried. And Cao Cao is just like what Ultragunner said.
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Old 2014-04-29, 11:36   Link #653
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Faust is not a hero and he's not a warrior like Heracles and Siegfried. And Cao Cao is just like what Ultragunner said.
Yeah, I'm not sure a guy who makes a deal with the devil to satisfy his own greed and desires can ever be considered a hero. And he did that knowing his soul was forfeit.
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Old 2014-04-29, 11:59   Link #654
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Yeah, I'm not sure a guy who makes a deal with the devil to satisfy his own greed and desires can ever be considered a hero. And he did that knowing his soul was forfeit.
Yeah and unlike Cao Cao where he's viewed as both villain and hero, there's no account (that I know of) that Faust is viewed anything close to a hero.


And since we're talking about the Hero faction's ancestors and Leo's ancestor wasn't revealed.

His ancestor would probably be Leondardo da Vinci.
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Old 2014-04-29, 13:10   Link #655
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His ancestor would probably be Leondardo da Vinci.
That's what I tought since his SG requires a whole lot of imagination and his full name is (probably) Leonardo.

And about Cao Cao, it was stated multiple times in the LN that his body is like that of a regular human, if he didn't block/evade Issei's attacks in Kyoto he would be dead already.
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Old 2014-05-06, 06:21   Link #656
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Old 2014-05-06, 06:38   Link #657
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After reading the part of Life 2 that has been translated by n0m@n ... I just have a few things to say.

First it was nice that we got some more details about how a pact with a magician works.

Second ... Ravel is quite sneaky and Ophis seems to want to go on a date with Ise as well

Third ... Ise starts showing a capability to actually manage his harem.

Forth ... It seems that Rossweisse is starting to show signs of actually failing for Ise, when Ise complimented her...
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Old 2014-05-06, 08:01   Link #658
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The pact between Ise & Le Fay sure is peaceful.

Ravel sure is cute asking Ise to go shopping with her and Le Fay raising her hand to join is also cute, A blond manager & a blond magician partner together sure is cute pair.

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What a description from Ise seeing Rossweise dressing up. Rossweisse blushing after Ise compliments her was cute.
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Old 2014-05-06, 10:14   Link #659
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Ah man I can't wait for the rest of their date to be translated. Rossweisse is too cute! Ise sure was amazed when he saw how beautiful she looked.

The detailed info on the magician's pact was nice.

Looks like Ise's going to go shopping with Ravel and Le Fay soon. Le Fay raising her hand to join was cute.

More information on Rossweisse's magic certainly was interesting.
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Old 2014-05-06, 10:36   Link #660
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I find Ravel wriggling when Issei praised her much cuter
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