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Old 2014-01-12, 22:39   Link #1061
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I wonder how much profit arpeggio make. isnt that CG anime is cheaper than 2D anime?
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Old 2014-03-08, 11:09   Link #1062
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Strike the blood sales:

Volume 2
Blu-ray - 4,348
DVD - 1,002

Total 5,350 copies on its first week.
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Old 2014-08-07, 13:24   Link #1063
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I've been looking at the amazon BD/DVD pre-order rankings for today, and I've been wondering, how exactly do all these number correlate to each other? For example how can one BD release have higher points then another, but a lower ranking? What exactly do the points mean or stand for and how are they calculated? How do these numbers correlate to actual number of BD's/DVD's being ordered? A ranking example below.

***,123位/***,144位 ★ (**2,647 pt) [*,*17予約] 2014/09/17 Free! -Eternal Summer- [BD]
***,131位/***,121位 ★ (**1,792 pt) [*,*84予約] 2014/09/24 Aldnoah.Zero[BD]
***,221位/***,201位 ★ (***,982 pt) [*,*25予約] 2014/09/26 Tokyo Ghoul[BD]
***,287位/***,260位 ○ (**1,837 pt) [*,**2予約] 2014/09/17 Free! -Eternal Summer- [DVD]
***,296位/***,342位 ★ (**1,019 pt) [*,**1予約] 2014/08/27 Black Butler - Book of circus[DVD]
***,334位/***,307位 ★ (**1,028 pt) [*,**4予約] 2014/08/27 Bakumatsu Rock[BD]
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Old 2014-08-07, 13:53   Link #1064
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I've been looking at the amazon BD/DVD pre-order rankings for today, and I've been wondering, how exactly do all these number correlate to each other? For example how can one BD release have higher points then another, but a lower ranking? What exactly do the points mean or stand for and how are they calculated? How do these numbers correlate to actual number of BD's/DVD's being ordered?
The best explanation you'll find is probably here in Section 4.

The short answer is that they don't actually know how many sales are occurring. They're just using the sales rankings on Amazon to estimate sales based on past trends. For example, if something is the top-selling DVD/BD on Amazon for a whole day, you know that's a whole lot of sales (because Amazon sells a whole lot of stuff). If something is only like the 1000th ranking... that's not so great. The points are an estimate of accumulated orders based on ranking over time. They use Amazon as representative of the larger market because it gives good data, even though obviously not everyone will buy their DVDs/BDs on Amazon, so there can be some cases where the Amazon estimates suggest one thing but actual sales are quite different because either more or less customers bought from Amazon vs. other stores in Japan.
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Old 2014-08-07, 14:28   Link #1065
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The points are an estimate of accumulated orders based on ranking over time.
Is it "1 point = 1 (presumed) sale" or is it more complicated than that? I get your other points, and they're well-stated and reflect the impression I've already had, but I've never quite understood how the points work exactly.
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Old 2014-08-07, 16:16   Link #1066
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The best explanation you'll find is probably here in Section 4.

The short answer is that they don't actually know how many sales are occurring. They're just using the sales rankings on Amazon to estimate sales based on past trends. For example, if something is the top-selling DVD/BD on Amazon for a whole day, you know that's a whole lot of sales (because Amazon sells a whole lot of stuff). If something is only like the 1000th ranking... that's not so great. The points are an estimate of accumulated orders based on ranking over time. They use Amazon as representative of the larger market because it gives good data, even though obviously not everyone will buy their DVDs/BDs on Amazon, so there can be some cases where the Amazon estimates suggest one thing but actual sales are quite different because either more or less customers bought from Amazon vs. other stores in Japan.
Thanks for the explanation, and link. There's a lot to take it, but it's interesting to read.
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Old 2014-08-07, 17:25   Link #1067
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Is it "1 point = 1 (presumed) sale" or is it more complicated than that? I get your other points, and they're well-stated and reflect the impression I've already had, but I've never quite understood how the points work exactly.
Yeah, rank over time gives points, and points are like estimated sales so far. They can also give an estimate of the final point tally, but this is extremely subject to swings and variation (since it can only assume that past performance will continue as-is until the end, which rarely happens). In the end, calling it "points" helps people remember that these are only predictive algorithms (based on one single store, even if it's a big one), and no actual sales are known until the Oricon releases numbers after the fact (and even then, Oricon doesn't catch absolutely everything either).
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Old 2015-01-09, 02:21   Link #1068
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Can someone clarify something I just looked up because it doesn't seem right...

The data I'm reading is suggesting that Kantai Collection preorders are already ahead of Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works pre-orders.
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Old 2015-01-09, 02:25   Link #1069
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Can someone clarify something I just looked up because it doesn't seem right...

The data I'm reading is suggesting that Kantai Collection preorders are already ahead of Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works pre-orders.
It's actually not impossible that it may turn out that way, but it's too early to judge. Give it a month or two to see whether Kantai Collection pre-orders sustain themselves. First week or two is way too early to make predictions.

Keep in mind that Stalker Points are not counting actual pre-orders, they're aggregating Amazon pre-order rankings over time. So it's very subjective and subject to change and adjustment. People who try to read the tea leaves this early in the season are fooling themselves.
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Old 2015-06-23, 13:08   Link #1070
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I'm so happy for Blood Blockade Battlefront earning 16k in its first volume. It really didn't seem like the type to earn that much. Euphonium earned a decent 6k too, which seemed unlikely in the first episodes (go Episode 8)
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Old 2015-06-24, 19:43   Link #1071
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Almost 17k actually. And it's just a first week.

BTW. Does anyone know what's the deal with Nanoha ViVId BDs? They haven't announced any yet but what's the reason? I really doubt they just decided not to make any cause all the previous installments had sales from decent to extremely good
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Old 2015-06-25, 03:27   Link #1072
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BTW. Does anyone know what's the deal with Nanoha ViVId BDs? They haven't announced any yet but what's the reason? I really doubt they just decided not to make any cause all the previous installments had sales from decent to extremely good
No news yet, which is definitely odd. There'll be a special broadcast on the 26th since there is no 13th episode, so I guess there's a small chance they might finally announce it then... but I have to imagine there was some sort of legal or production issue that held them back. There are also signs that it will be split-cour, so maybe they're planning to do something special, or who knows...
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Old 2015-06-25, 16:57   Link #1073
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I'd like to point out that the sales for the most recent Space Battleship Yamato 2199 movie (Hoshi Meguru Hakobune) are only partly correct on the main list. It does not include the Limited First Edition sales which Oricon listed as 17,983 for the first week.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...y-25-31/.88821

And the movie is listed with the top seller of the year so far: #26 with 35,681 (in 11 days by the time of the report).
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...le-2015/.89373

The First Limited Edition stops being on the top charts this last week while the regular version has remained on it.
The last listing of it has it at 19,344 by itself
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...an-2015/.89375
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Old 2015-06-26, 15:27   Link #1074
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So not entirely related, but is there any words regarding whether foreign site like Crunchy Roll assist in sale/ provide extra profits for a series in anyway?

Like whether a popular series for Western audience will provide some decent profit to break through the Manabi Line. Or something like that?
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Old 2015-06-28, 07:44   Link #1075
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So not entirely related, but is there any words regarding whether foreign site like Crunchy Roll assist in sale/ provide extra profits for a series in anyway?

Like whether a popular series for Western audience will provide some decent profit to break through the Manabi Line. Or something like that?
Are you asking about the monies the production committees earn from streaming licensing fees? Or are you asking whether exposure on services like Crunchyroll encourage DVD/BD sales of the programs carried? I think there is some evidence for the latter given Sentai's rather close relationship with Crunchyroll. I believe Sentai actually chose to produce disc releases of some show based on their streaming performance.

As for the revenues themselves, that's harder to say. If we take Crunchyroll at its word, their claimed 400,000 subscribers should generate about $2.5 million per month. If we generously assume they pass back $1 million of that back to license holders, that's not a trivial amount, but it is spread across a lot of shows. I doubt Toei or Cinedigm earn much from CR's carriage of Mononoke; Madhouse might have seen better returns on Parasyte.
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