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View Poll Results: Sword Art Online II - Episode 8 Rating
Perfect 10 7 17.07%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 12 29.27%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 15 36.59%
7 out of 10 : Good 7 17.07%
6 out of 10 : Average 0 0%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
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Old 2014-08-24, 23:42   Link #61
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Is this his first face-to-face victim? The long-distance kill through the monitor was nowhere near the guy, and presumably just done in order to kick up the rumor mill. I don't remember what, if anything, was said about the circumstances of the second victim.
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Old 2014-08-25, 01:32   Link #62
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he's got a list and he's sticking to it (l
Hopefully he's checking it twice
I think you could be right with C
Also he eliminated 90% of the people in the tournament just by looking at who was new??? I think this guy has been doing this for a while considering the high stats and the rare gun.who's to say he hasn't already participated already?
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Old 2014-08-25, 01:38   Link #63
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Is this his first face-to-face victim? The long-distance kill through the monitor was nowhere near the guy, and presumably just done in order to kick up the rumor mill. I don't remember what, if anything, was said about the circumstances of the second victim.
From Episode 1, it was said that Urushio Tarako was shot during a guild meeting in Glocken City. I suppose that means Desu Gan killed him with a direct shot in front of his friends, though whether he was a face-to-face or face-to-back victim remains questionable.
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Old 2014-08-25, 03:00   Link #64
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I think Sterben is quite suspicious, after translating what the name meant.


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Hopefully he's checking it twice
I think you could be right with C
Also he eliminated 90% of the people in the tournament just by looking at who was new??? I think this guy has been doing this for a while considering the high stats and the rare gun.who's to say he hasn't already participated already?
Then Death Gun would already made his statement and done it last tourney.

If he did appear in previous tourney,
people would have recognize him based on his name but none do,
especially with his rare weapon.
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Old 2014-08-25, 09:12   Link #65
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GGO just might be one of those games where you can pay a large sum of game cash to buy a name-change item; account limitations and number of uses may or may not be present. There are other things to it too, though...

- his stats are overkill
- his gear is legendary
- he is obviously a solo "player"

He could have gotten all of this like how Kirito summoned excalibur back in ALO, hax-style. In order to normally get a mythical sniper rifle, you'd need to be camping rumored grounds, so he would have to be famous before an (assumed by me) name change...but in that case, wouldn't people be perplexed by his disappearance from the top tier?
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Old 2014-08-25, 20:50   Link #66
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GGO just might be one of those games where you can pay a large sum of game cash to buy a name-change item; account limitations and number of uses may or may not be present. There are other things to it too, though...
For the purposes of the story, no such convenient plot hole exist.

Like any detective like scenario basic rules has to be followed (umi neko ftw).
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Old 2014-08-25, 22:29   Link #67
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GGO just might be one of those games where you can pay a large sum of game cash to buy a name-change item; account limitations and number of uses may or may not be present. There are other things to it too, though...
For the purposes of the story, no such convenient plot hole exist.

Like any detective like scenario basic rules has to be followed (umi neko ftw).
I agree with you halfway, and for a different reason. Players are handling real money in game, so it would make it easier for frauds if players are allowed to change their name.

On the other hand, as a game with real money involved, naturally there will be items and such that players would want to purchase with real money. There should be all sorts of accessories in this game, from gun accessories to plasma grenade. And I think it would have made sense to allow people to purchase bullets with real money, seeing as they are consumables. There could be some sort of XP boost too (at least for beginners).
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Old 2014-08-25, 22:51   Link #68
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People change their live names all the time.Im not aware of any games that dont have that feature by now.that being said its still a long shot at best that he changed his name.but you would think if he was so high in level some fanboy would recognize the name and blow his cover .how does a guy who is as distinguishable as this guy just slide around unnoticed by anyone ? Its not like he blends in with a crowd with his Darth 2.0 respirator .
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Old 2014-08-25, 23:11   Link #69
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Well, if Kirito can go skinnydipping, Death Gun can probably take off the cloak and mask for travelling incognito and making normal social appearances. Though since it seems that he's more of an urban legend to the GGO community and hasn't made too many appearances, maybe DG does just go wandering around town in that outfit.

Also, the scene where Sinon strips and Kirito reveals that he's a guy seems entirely gratuitous now (it was gratuitous before, of course), seeing as how we see Sinon and Spiegel appear to be outside the BoB building in Episode 7 and Sinon is wearing her combat gear, not the street outfit that she only wore in the fourth and fifth episodes. (It also simplifies the animation effort!)
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Old 2014-08-25, 23:19   Link #70
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I guess its really to hard to tell at this point what's really going on yet I mean this is a run of what? 30 EPs?
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Old 2014-08-26, 00:04   Link #71
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I guess its really to hard to tell at this point what's really going on yet I mean this is a run of what? 30 EPs?
24 episodes.

and it's pretty close to being done with this arc imo
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Old 2014-08-26, 13:42   Link #72
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People change their live names all the time.Im not aware of any games that dont have that feature by now.
Final Fantasy XI and Final Fantasy XIV. You are stuck with the name you chose unless you change server and there's already one with your name in it (at least that works on FFXI not sure on the latter). The irony is that in FFXIV you can change your whole avatar including its sex, but no name change option.

That being said I don't know how much it makes sense to compare the MMORPG of SAO with real world MMORPG at this point.
A lot of games allow you to "respec" your ability improvements, especially when a bad choice may have serious repercussion on the gameplay, but apparently in GGO that's a no no, and someone in this forum even suggested that it's inherently prevented by the seed base program (wow).
Moreover which MMORPG doesn't let you know a player's name immediately when you see him (in city areas as well)? Or which game company gives you real money in exchange of game currency?

So well it's a whole different universe than the (virtual) reality we are used to.
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Old 2014-08-26, 22:44   Link #73
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Wasn't the guy selling player info before the tournament the same merchant who wanted to buy Kirito's account in the 3rd episode? Kirito had told him that he's a guy though, so...I suppose that merch will be making a lot of money out of that piece of information someday
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Old 2014-08-26, 23:28   Link #74
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someone in this forum even suggested that it's inherently prevented by the seed base program (wow).
Moreover which MMORPG doesn't let you know a player's name immediately when you see him (in city areas as well)? Or which game company gives you real money in exchange of game currency?

So well it's a whole different universe than the (virtual) reality we are used to.
Lol its funny how we debate over game mechanics we have no real idea about.I must have missed that post I might have to go find that.
Lots of f2p games like the ones on fb are cash for in game stuff.
Good point about his name not just floating above his head.and someone above me mentioned the information guy.why not buy the info for the 3 people you think it is? Provided he has it of course.

Side note- final fantasy is still alive? I think I stopped with that after 9 or something.
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Old 2014-08-27, 01:34   Link #75
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Side note- final fantasy is still alive? I think I stopped with that after 9 or something.
Why would final fantasy be dead just because you stopped playing it?

It's an extremely successful franchise internationally.
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Old 2014-08-27, 03:44   Link #76
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Lots of f2p games like the ones on fb are cash for in game stuff.
Something that isn't an online casino or a simulation of an already existent gambling game? Or what about something that isn't gambling at all? Because apparently in GGO you can get money by farming monsters (the standard RPG way).
I'm kind of curious to know if something like that actually exists. I'd be inclined to think that it wouldn't work.
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Something that isn't an online casino or a simulation of an already existent gambling game? Or what about something that isn't gambling at all? Because apparently in GGO you can get money by farming monsters (the standard RPG way).
I'm kind of curious to know if something like that actually exists. I'd be inclined to think that it wouldn't work.
Never heard of the Diablo 3 real money auction house I take it?

Or of people buying and selling MMORPG accounts and gear on more generalized auction sites?

Or of chinese players farming gold in MMORPGs to sell?
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Old 2014-08-27, 09:43   Link #78
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Technically, that's selling items to others for real life money, wherein Blizzard takes a cut. That's not the same as Blizzard themselves letting you trade x gold (or whatever Diablo 3 uses) for y USD.

The other two instances are technically against the terms of service, and if caught, will be terminated.
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Old 2014-08-27, 14:11   Link #79
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What GDB said. The key issue here is that game companies love getting moneys but are notoriously adverse to make the money flow from them to the customers. Even in cases when they need to amend for their faults or faulty products, they rather compensate by giving free games and whatnot (see fore example the SONY security breach debacle).

Diablo III isn't a good example because 1): money could never flow from Blizzard's pockets to the customers 2): it was a failed experiment.

The closest thing to the GGO system that I'm aware of is in EVE Online, where you can trade in game money for another kind of fictional currency that you can use to pay for services like the subscription fee. This is however still a case where in the worse case scenario the game company doesn't get any money but it will never lose it.

Substantially when a company promises to give real money to you in case "you win" at their games or whatever they need to make sure that they have a system that will guarantee that the flow of money that leaves will always be less consistent that flow of money that enters, else they'll face bankruptcy.

For the company behind GGO to stay in business they must have some kind of strategy in mind. Apart from the subscription fee, they must manipulate the in game economy to make it so players are forced to spend their in game currency for goods and services so that most of them will not be able to redeem it for real money.

It would be actually quite interesting to see if it would be possible to make something like that work without the gambling factor. Unfortunately the RMT industry in existence would inevitably mess everything up.
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Old 2014-08-27, 15:59   Link #80
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It wouldn't come close to making up costs, but I'd expect that at the very least they're taking a cut of the in-game BoB wagering. Though then there would just be a ton of offline BoB wagering.
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