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Old 2014-08-27, 04:55   Link #681
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Apparently this is the bonus material for this chapter:

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Old 2014-08-27, 06:42   Link #682
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Incest route good ending GET!
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Old 2014-08-27, 08:29   Link #683
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doesn't matter, if it's Alt Shirou, they are not related.
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Old 2014-08-27, 08:36   Link #684
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doesn't matter, if it's Alt Shirou, they are not related.
Pseudo wincest, well if we include Miyu and Kuro, then that means imouto harem. Damn u Shirou! I envy u.
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Old 2014-08-27, 08:41   Link #685
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Technically it wouldn't even be incest if it were the regular Shirou. There's no blood between them. Hell, there isn't even a name between them. All he'd have to do to make it legal is have himself removed from the family register, since that'd be the only thing tying them together as "family" otherwise.
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Old 2014-08-27, 08:41   Link #686
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doesn't matter, if it's Alt Shirou, they are not related.
I demand Miyu to see Illya's Shirou the same as Alt Shirou. So as Chloe and the red and blue devils! >:{
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Old 2014-08-27, 09:30   Link #687
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Silly Hiroyama, lolis can't get married!
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Old 2014-08-27, 09:30   Link #688
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So, who was listening to EMIYA while reading this month's chapter?
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Old 2014-08-27, 10:46   Link #689
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Technically it wouldn't even be incest if it were the regular Shirou. There's no blood between them. Hell, there isn't even a name between them. All he'd have to do to make it legal is have himself removed from the family register, since that'd be the only thing tying them together as "family" otherwise.
No, but he would be a lolicon
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Old 2014-08-27, 11:45   Link #690
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Breaking the rules for a cool result, too much shonen for my taste
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Old 2014-08-27, 14:27   Link #691
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Silly Hiroyama, lolis can't get married!
U prejudiced against lolis?
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Old 2014-08-27, 19:15   Link #692
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Actually from what I have seen that is not a bonus for this chapter. It was a poster given out during the time the second season of the anime started when you buy prisma illya related things in japan.

update - Upon looking into it I discovered that it is being given out from the website "gamers-onlineshop.jp" for buying 2 prisma illya books (that is if I am interpreting the machine translation correctly). It seems they are still giving it out until the 31st. Perhaps I will buy some books and add this poster to my collection hehe...
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Old 2014-08-27, 21:19   Link #693
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Breaking the rules for a cool result, too much shonen for my taste
Which rules?

Remember this is a world where you can trace Excalibur as well
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Old 2014-08-27, 21:47   Link #694
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Which rules?

Remember this is a world where you can trace Excalibur as well
In a certain pocket dimension.
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Old 2014-08-27, 21:50   Link #695
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In a certain pocket dimension.
It has less to do with the location being a factor and more to do with the manga scene being created well before Nasu retconned Excalibur being untraceable.
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Old 2014-08-27, 22:29   Link #696
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It has less to do with the location being a factor and more to do with the manga scene being created well before Nasu retconned Excalibur being untraceable.
Come again? Was it traced at some point and then Nasu said it couldn't be?
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Old 2014-08-27, 22:31   Link #697
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Come again? Was it traced at some point and then Nasu said it couldn't be?
Fate/Extra CCC. It's one of Archer's skills.

Of course, the conditions were different since it was the Moon Cell so Nasu let it pass.
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Old 2014-08-27, 22:36   Link #698
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Come again? Was it traced at some point and then Nasu said it couldn't be?
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And yes, the "divine objects can't be traced" is the retcon I'm talking about. From what's been explained to me, there was never any rule like that when the game first came out, and Shirou's inability to trace Ea stems directly from the alien materials used rather than the divine origins. Excalibur is a weapon of the Fae realm, but Shirou's brain doesn't try to kill itself figuring out what it's made out of whenever he looks at it, unlike Ea.
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In the original (not sure about Realta Nua), Excalibur was traceable. Archer said he could do it, and it was implied that's what Shirou used to destroy the Greater Grail. It wasn't outright shown, but there was no reason to believe it couldn't be done.

Then in one of the CMs, Nasu changed it and said that Excalibur was a divine object and couldn't be traced. So it was a retcon, because it basically changed things so that Archer was bluffing, and Shirou traced something that wasn't Excalibur. It doesn't break the game, as Rising Dragon said, but it's still 100% a retcon.


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Fate/Extra CCC. It's one of Archer's skills.

Of course, the conditions were different since it was the Moon Cell so Nasu let it pass.
Actually, while yes, Archer in Fate/Extra CCC can trace the Excalibur Image, we're not talking about that. The retcon in question happened well before Fate/Extra CCC.

Nasu DID give a pass for what CCC did with the Excalibur Image with some babble on how the Far Side world operates, but officially, Excalibur Image came about because the developers had already come up with the animation and such when Nasu wasn't looking:

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Infinite Creation of Swords [Noble Phantasm]
Archer's noble phantasm. A barren wasteland lined with a thousand blades. A great ritual deployed using eight lines of projection. A type of old world magecraft, called a reality marble, which manifests the internal world of the caster and writes it over the world for a small amount of time. All of the weapons Archer can project are there and in this space he doesn't have to project them from scratch, instead he can immediately pull out the weapons sticking out of the ground.
In EXTRA, the conditions for where wrought iron is possible are boosted so projection of holy-sword class weaponry is possible, though their performance is inferior.
Okay truth is, I was surprised to find that the staff in charge of the 3D had made animation for Excalibur being projected while I was looking the other way.
Well it is new animation after all and there's no reason to reject it. So long as it's a degraded version, I guess it's okay.
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Old 2014-08-27, 22:56   Link #699
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Would you guys say that Nasu has for the most part has managed to establish and work within the rules of his setting?
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Old 2014-08-28, 19:16   Link #700
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We will see Archer's true potential in the next chapter. Also, I think Illya's 3rei form is something beyond the enemies' understanding. Would be cool if it looks similar to her Dress of Heaven.
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