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Old 2006-04-07, 22:29   Link #21
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Sooooo... what do you guys think of Shirley? Selfish, spoiled brat or are her actions somehow justifiable (is this a word?)?
Somewhat justified, considering it was supposed to be her destiny, but I seriously can't seem to like her at all. Stella, Fenimore, Chloe, Norma and almost every other female in ToL imo is more likable than Shirley. Well, Senel's at fault too.

And did anyone else noticed the whole parrarel with GSD? Senel's original VA was Shinn's. Stella = Stellar. The whole final moment of embrace. (( Those who played till the whole Vaclav thing know what I mean )). Wings of Light. Iron Eres = Destiny Finger. Chloe looks somewhat Luna-ish I suppose. Ferines = sleeping with the fishes. Break the World = Legacy?

I just realised that Tales has a bit of tendecy to take on somewhat controversial themes. ToE had the whole human and alien theme going, I think. Rebirth was all about racism. Legendia was about opinions on differing races/people. And Abyss had the whole human/replica theme.
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Old 2006-04-08, 07:23   Link #22
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And did anyone else noticed the whole parrarel with GSD?
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Ferines = sleeping with the fishes?
Need a bit explanation on this point ^^, i don't get it.
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Old 2006-04-08, 08:25   Link #23
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Need a bit explanation on this point ^^, i don't get it.
Ferines are water people. Stella is a Ferines. Stellar ends up sleeping with the fishes. And the whole Ritual of something where a couple are blessed by the sea.
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Old 2006-04-08, 09:31   Link #24
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I just realised that Tales has a bit of tendecy to take on somewhat controversial themes. ToE had the whole human and alien theme going, I think. Rebirth was all about racism. Legendia was about opinions on differing races/people. And Abyss had the whole human/replica theme.
Tales of Symphonia was also about racism.
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Old 2006-04-08, 10:01   Link #25
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Ferines are water people. Stella is a Ferines. Stellar ends up sleeping with the fishes. And the whole Ritual of something where a couple are blessed by the sea.
Now i get it,
i thought you're saying, that the ferines were mating with fishes ?!?
like Troy McClure from the simpsons ^^.

Nevertheless, is it just me or was ToL too easy ?
Maybe that's the reason, why some people find this game good.

Can't wait till Tales of the Tempest gets released, woundering if it will support wifi.
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Old 2006-04-08, 17:21   Link #26
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Tales of Symphonia was also about racism.
so was Rebirth
that's why I got a little bored when I started Rebirth after finishing Symphonia

although Abyss does sort of have a human/replica idea in the story
it's less like what's happening in rebirth about the racism stuff....
that's why I personally like it the best
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Old 2006-04-08, 23:11   Link #27
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Ah, I forgot about ToS. Been a while since I played the JAP PS2 version.

I thought Abyss was better because it not only develops the theme of human/replica really well, it's theme of the humanity blinded by the Score was also very immersing and made the villians look better and more human than typical wackos.

Not to mention Luke's personal dilemma in the 2nd half of the game. While I heard some people complaining about his angst, I found it very enjoyable and made Luke a very strongly developed main character.
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Old 2006-04-09, 04:20   Link #28
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Listening to ToL OST on my winamp right now, and I'm seriously falling in love with it, especially Whisper of the Crystal and The Bird Chirps, I Sing *_*
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Old 2006-04-09, 05:53   Link #29
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Anyone played it? How does it measure up?

I'm gonna pick up a new game this week. Having a hard time deciding between legendia and Kingdom hearts 2. :P

Buy suikoden V. I guarentee it will knock those other 2 games out the park.
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Old 2006-04-09, 12:13   Link #30
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Old 2006-04-09, 12:35   Link #31
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Can somebody please explain what's the deal with the plot?
In terms of chronology, do the character quests take place before, during, or after the main plot? Do the character quests create a second main plot, or are they all separate vignettes?
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Old 2006-04-09, 12:48   Link #32
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The Character Quests takes place (If I remember right) 2 months after the main plot.

Despite common belief, the Character Quests are not side stories, and are required to understand the characters fully.

Technically the entire game is one big character quest, just Senel/Shirley's CQ is longer than the others.
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