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Old 2006-04-14, 18:14   Link #101
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And there is now a glossary of terms on the official site.
Finally! The glossary was very much needed ^_^;
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Old 2006-04-14, 18:26   Link #102
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I love the opening song Has that single been released yet? I assume not
Both the OP and ED are out on the 19th:

Utsukushikereba Sore de Ii (OP)

Inori no Uta (ED)

And yes, they're fantastic - I'm loving all the music in this show so far, especially
Spoiler for ep 2:

Bring on the OST, I say!

@Yui and Kaoru Chujo: those glossaries are a great help. Thanks both of you
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Old 2006-04-14, 18:45   Link #103
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I was going to drop this show but after watching episode 1 subbed, I decided I'll watch a few more episodes. The plot is very interesting.

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Old 2006-04-14, 19:12   Link #104
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I was going to drop this show but after watching episode 1 subbed, I decided I'll watch a few more episodes. The plot is very interesting.

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Spoiler for episode 1 answers:


Ah, so Latin was the missing link I was looking for... and the Sibylla Aurea (golden prophetess) confirms it. So does Auriga(a slave who drove chariots) and Sagitta(arrow). Good stuff. ( '-')b

EDIT: I wonder why they wanted to mix both French and Latin into the terms... Maybe they didn't think the Latin sounded cool enough? ^_^;

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Old 2006-04-14, 22:18   Link #105
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Really intresteds in it im just still trying to understand what the hell is going on someone mentioned it had a last exile feel to it i totally agree with that plus theres nothing wrong with a series that opens with a bunch a girls kissing. guess i will have to watch more to see if i like it or not. Does anyone know what happen to the 2 pilots that were shot down?
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Old 2006-04-15, 00:39   Link #106
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Old 2006-04-15, 01:56   Link #107
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....Spoilerish Questions:
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Spoiler for more answers:
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Old 2006-04-15, 02:07   Link #108
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Thanks, I understand now. Did I mention how much I love the Simoun ship designs? But I guess everyone else probably said it already. It just looks so lavish! The turnable spinning thing is unique as well. Kudos to the designer and the CG-er.
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Old 2006-04-15, 07:25   Link #109
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I found another translation of the glossary which seems good - http://hashihime.blogspot.com/2006/0...-of-terms.html.

Although I still think it probably should be Sybilla, not Shivyura but that's just what my ears say, not the official site.

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Old 2006-04-15, 08:42   Link #110
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Lightbulb Yes! The Jade Ri-Maejion also called "Emerald Ri Marjon"

Yes! The Jade Ri-Maejion also called "Emerald Ri Marjon"
I've improved now the grossary page!

I renewal http://www.geocities.jp/emiri_0623/simoun02-e1.htm

The vimana related writing and picture!
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Old 2006-04-15, 08:54   Link #111
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Shimire Simoun (Shimire)

Training craft for Simoun pilots. There are one- and two-seated
versions.

It has not eqiped emerald.
Thus, Shimire Simoun can not draw Ri-marjion.

The Craft engineer woman said
"The imitaion Simoun made by human , stolen god's craft...!"

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Old 2006-04-15, 10:26   Link #112
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I remenber The Gods of Xuma !!



I remenber " The Left Hand of Darkness" (Ursula K.Le Guin)!!
The Gods of Xuma ( David J. Lake)
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Old 2006-04-16, 20:59   Link #113
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I found another translation of the glossary which seems good - http://hashihime.blogspot.com/2006/0...-of-terms.html.

Although I still think it probably should be Sybilla, not Shivyura but that's just what my ears say, not the official site.
Yay! Thanks for that reference, Matrim. *bookmarks*
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Old 2006-04-16, 21:52   Link #114
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I found another translation of the glossary which seems good - http://hashihime.blogspot.com/2006/0...-of-terms.html. Although I still think it probably should be Sybilla, not Shivyura but that's just what my ears say, not the official site.
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I'm the one who translated that glossary, and I prefer Sybilla, too. That's not what was printed on the site, so I went with the site. But Sybilla makes sense to me. So does Neville for Neviriru. I wish the site had some official English versions. I just transliterated the Japanese, but I'm sure they were thinking of some foreign name, like Neville.
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Old 2006-04-17, 00:49   Link #115
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I just transliterated the Japanese, but I'm sure they were thinking of some foreign name, like Neville.
My uneducated guess woud be Neviril, with a lengthened final syllable, because that's what I'm picking up in the dialogue and it seems to fit the kana better - if they'd meant Neville, I would've expected them to write ネヴィール. Also, I find it hard not to automatically read Neville as a man's name (e.g. Neville Chamberlain), even though I know -ille is a perfectly good feminine ending.

Similarly with シヴュラ, if they'd meant Sibylla wouldn't シブラ have been closer? You're right, Sybilla is a natural reading given the use of Latin,

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but I wonder if the soft "b" we're hearing is just the closest our Japanese cast can get to "v"? Early transliterations used Siwula, but I don't know if they were based on inside info or were just matching the Polish word to the kana.

Not trying to nit-pick, just wondering aloud...
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Old 2006-04-17, 00:52   Link #116
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Old 2006-04-17, 00:57   Link #117
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Old 2006-04-17, 02:58   Link #118
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I went to this thread after a month's hiatus from AS because of the title: Simoun. What instantly came to my mind was a revolutionary and filibusterer ... other Filipinos can relate to who I mean.

(to Filipinos:
Who really likes Noli me Tangere over El Filibusterismo? EF is waaay better ... and a white-haired bad@ss jeweler somewhat reminds me of Ukitake as Simoun ... )

But as it's a yuri series ... I'm saying goodbye to this story ...
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Old 2006-04-17, 03:30   Link #119
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My uneducated guess would be Neviril, with a lengthened final syllable, because that's what I'm picking up in the dialogue and it seems to fit the kana better...Similarly with シヴュラ, if they'd meant Sibylla wouldn't シブラ have been closer? You're right, Sybilla is a natural reading given the use of Latin, and the classical influences I think we're seeing...but I wonder if the soft "b" we're hearing is just the closest our Japanese cast can get to "v"?....
I like the sound of Neviril, as you suggested and as Yui has on her page. I think the echo of Lord of the Rings elven folk may be intentional ("Galadriel...).

And I think it works to say Shivyura is the Greek Sibylla -- or maybe just Sibyl in English -- especially because that word means a kind of priestess, which is also what "shivyura" is supposed to mean. Maybe that's all part of the "exotic ancient West" feel that I think this show has.

This link (from Yui's page) is about ancient Indian flying boats which could not be destroyed and which depended on the pilots' Tantric spiritual powers. So maybe the Indian part of the West is also there.
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Old 2006-04-17, 03:35   Link #120
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And I think it works to say Shivyura is the Greek Sibylla -- or maybe just Sibyl in English -- especially because that word means a kind of priestess, which is also what "shivyura" is supposed to mean. Maybe that's all part of the "exotic ancient West" feel that I think this show has.
I agree. It's most probably Sibylla being used in Latin (with origins in Greek), as the phrase Sibylla Aurea would make sense with the Japanese meaning. Other non-Simoun sites also use this pronunciation: http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~occultyo/shinpi/sibyura.htm

EDIT: Oops, the other sites use Shibyura instead of Shivyura, but they're very close in sound and Japanese often interchange v and b sounds anyway.

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