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View Poll Results: Suzumiya Haruhi Episode 3 Rating
Perfect 10 56 26.79%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 82 39.23%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 41 19.62%
7 out of 10 : Good 20 9.57%
6 out of 10 : Average 5 2.39%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 0.48%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 0.48%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 3 1.44%
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Old 2006-04-21, 22:24   Link #261
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What's the point of time travel if you don't get to screw up history? I like the idea of being able to go back in time, do something minor, like eat an apple, and completely change the world. It's much more interesting that way. Of course that also means time travel would likely be completely banned even if it were possible.
Of course, since when is banning ever going to stop anyone?

Instead of committing suicide, people who believe their life isn't worth living would just get back in time and hope to scramble a new life for themselves, because they don't see what they could possibly lose.
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Old 2006-04-21, 22:34   Link #262
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Since when did banning not push people to do it the act that was banned?

Having time travel would be bad since irresponsible people would abuse it.
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Old 2006-04-21, 22:51   Link #263
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omg..I watched the episode like 4 times. I can't get enough of Mikuru's screaming like she's getting raped by Haruhi. It's just too cute
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Old 2006-04-21, 22:56   Link #264
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Well i would too, if there were people like you wanting to go back.
Don't worry, I'd rather go forward than backward.

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Since when did banning not push people to do it the act that was banned?

Having time travel would be bad since irresponsible people would abuse it.
Of course it would have to be ruthlessly enforced, though hopefully the idea of what could happen if someone carelessly altered history would be enough of a deterrent. Of course I doubt it...

*wonders if traveling into the future to get a space battleship counts as abuse*
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Old 2006-04-21, 22:58   Link #265
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Of course it would have to be ruthlessly enforced, though hopefully the idea of what could happen if someone carelessly altered history would be enough of a deterrent. Of course I doubt it...

*wonders if traveling into the future to get a space battleship counts as abuse*
Uhmm... I guess? As it is, humans can destroy the world many times over; with that we could [destroy the world many times over] ^n, where n approaches infinity
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Don't worry, I'd rather go forward than backward.
Right now, I want to travel forward to two days later, and then subsequent 7 days later.
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Old 2006-04-21, 23:23   Link #266
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Those who are responsible will stay responsible.
I don't quite agree with this. I've seen too many responsible and good people be corrupted by power. I just saw Utaware 1 yesterday, and the tax collector is one very good example of corruption happening.
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Old 2006-04-21, 23:35   Link #267
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I don't quite agree with this. I've seen too many responsible and good people be corrupted by power. I just saw Utaware 1 yesterday, and the tax collector is one very good example of corruption happening.
So what are you going to do about it?
Hide all the technology from the good people?

Because those who are irresponsible will still get it, you know.

How in the world could we protect ourselves from malicious time travellers if we don't set up a policing system like in Timecop?

Next thing I know, you would want to ban guns from the policeforce so the thugs can shoot them dead.

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Offer me ONE, just ONE way to make sure those who want to abuse time machines won't get their hands on one, if it is possible?
And banning time machines by law will do thing, by the way. Unless you think thugs follow laws.
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Old 2006-04-21, 23:50   Link #268
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Hmm... you have a point. I guess not developing new technology wouldn't be a good idea, since we wouldn't be growing anymore then. Bah, humans.
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Old 2006-04-21, 23:54   Link #269
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Hmm... you have a point. I guess not developing new technology wouldn't be a good idea, since we wouldn't be growing anymore then. Bah, humans.
You got the wrong idea.

New technology will be developed anyway. The only difference will be, only those who want to use it for bad things will have it.

How will you plan to stop developing new technology? At best, you stop all the honest scientists, good doctors, and kind physicists in doing their job at making the world a better place.

The megalomaniacs, the greedy, the thieves and the knaves will just laugh at you, spit in your face, and go on developing new ways of toying with, stealing from, and killing people. They always have, and always will be.
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Old 2006-04-22, 00:00   Link #270
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I got it, I said NOT developing new technology would NOT be a good idea, for the reasons you stated. Guess the real root would have to be human nature then.
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Old 2006-04-22, 00:02   Link #271
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He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future. ~G.Orwell.
If that's your definition of how to control the future... it's cheaper to reprint all the history books ^_^
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Old 2006-04-22, 00:02   Link #272
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There is 1 way around the spiral issue that we've been resorting. Push the technological envelope in any way in order to outdo the opposition. If usage and abuse is inevitable, one must change faster to compensate and to survive.
That, my friend, is called the Red-Queen Effect.

You need to run as fast as you can, just to stay in exactly the same place.
Any slower, and you will go backwards.
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Old 2006-04-22, 09:10   Link #273
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Haruhi is taking over yoooour mind!

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Old 2006-04-22, 12:11   Link #274
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???????????????

Ok after what I've seen I'm just going to say sight or story gag untill i have further info.
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Old 2006-04-22, 12:34   Link #275
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Mikuru > Haruhi

For cuteness factors alone. (that might change if Haruhi continues to climb up the awesomeness latter though, assuming that Mikuru doesn't follow)

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Old 2006-04-22, 19:12   Link #276
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... and this stuff gets odder. It seems that time travel going back and forth is doable if you invoke the idea of 'manifold', 'Hilbert space' and superstring to explain everything although it is a long stretch. Damn. It makes me feel that gr.10-12 physics is lying about how things work a little...
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Technobabble for the win?
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Old 2006-04-22, 19:21   Link #277
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Ruthlessly exploiting Mikuru for fun and profit.
Now that you mention it, I feel really sorry for the computer club guys. It looks like an episode off Jigoku Shoujo. What if one of those guys would go and call her to get Haruhi? Okay, seriously, she was evil.
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Old 2006-04-22, 20:00   Link #278
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Now that you mention it, I feel really sorry for the computer club guys. It looks like an episode off Jigoku Shoujo. What if one of those guys would go and call her to get Haruhi? Okay, seriously, she was evil.
There would be a new member of the SOS dan? Though I have no desire to see what Enma Ai looks like as a bunny girl.
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Old 2006-04-22, 20:27   Link #279
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Now that you mention it, I feel really sorry for the computer club guys. It looks like an episode off Jigoku Shoujo. What if one of those guys would go and call her to get Haruhi? Okay, seriously, she was evil.
I have a feeling Ai would probably end up getting kidnapped into Haruhi's sos club and be force into a bunny suit herself
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Old 2006-04-22, 21:06   Link #280
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There would be a new member of the SOS dan? Though I have no desire to see what Enma Ai looks like as a bunny girl.
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I have a feeling Ai would probably end up getting kidnapped into Haruhi's sos club and be force into a bunny suit herself
... If ever I'd do an ED edit, I know who one of 'em is gonna be~ ^^
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