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Old 2006-05-11, 00:54   Link #61
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While I haven't seen their sub of Saiunkoku yet, they have subbed several other projects (Karin, BPS and Uninhabited Planet Survive) and their methods are very consistent. They put a lot of work into translation and editing, but very little into typesetting and karaoke. It isn't pretty, but it is fast and high-quality. Contrary to their name, they don't suck.
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Old 2006-05-11, 04:27   Link #62
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Yup, I like [suck] as well. They did a good job on UPS and Karin was okay as well. Meh, stop setting such high standards for fansubbers! They are feeling the pressure!

On topic, I'm not sure if I would enjoy this too much if it's just about romance complications. They are tiring to sit through.
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Old 2006-05-11, 06:10   Link #63
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Suck is doing this? That's awesome! After doing such a good job on Loveless (especially at such a swift pace) I'm... one of their big fans.
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Old 2006-05-11, 08:12   Link #64
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On topic, I'm not sure if I would enjoy this too much if it's just about romance complications. They are tiring to sit through.
The entire show is not dedicated to romance. its a mixed genre. It seems like it has more politics and historical than romance.
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Old 2006-05-13, 00:25   Link #65
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Recognizing that this anime may have some difficult terminology and some of the dialogue is rather delicate, I have some basic questions...

(1) Is Shuurei's father the head of the palace treasury or is he the librarian?
(2) Does Shuurei complain about having to buy barley or wheat, or, alternatively, is there no difference between the two in the vernacular?
(3) Is Shuurei the imperial consort or the empress, or, alternatively, is there no real distinction, given the historical context? Empress makes the relationship sound more permanent and higher status than what seems to be shown. Is the highest-ranked consort the empress, and therefore Shuurei is the empress by default? That seems to be implied by Shuurei being surprised at being addressed as ki.
(4) Does Seiran become a captain of the guard, or merely an officer of the guard?
(5) Is the emporer one of six brothers or one of five brothers?
(6) Does Shuurei say that she is there to save the emporer or to help him?

Thanks!

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Old 2006-05-13, 01:46   Link #66
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Old 2006-05-13, 02:39   Link #67
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Recognizing that this anime may have some difficult terminology and some of the dialogue is rather delicate, I have some basic questions...

(1) Is Shuurei's father the head of the palace treasury or is he the librarian?
(2) Does Shuurei complain about having to buy barley or wheat, or, alternatively, is there no difference between the two in the vernacular?
(3) Is Shuurei the imperial consort or the empress, or, alternatively, is there no real distinction, given the historical context? Empress makes the relationship sound more permanent and higher status than what seems to be shown. Is the highest-ranked consort the empress, and therefore Shuurei is the empress by default? That seems to be implied by Shuurei being surprised at being addressed as ki.
(4) Does Seiran become a captain of the guard, or merely an officer of the guard?
(5) Is the emporer one of six brothers or one of five brothers?
(6) Does Shuurei say that she is there to save the emporer or to help him?

Thanks!
I put my answer inside the spoiler tag
Spoiler:

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Old 2006-05-13, 09:27   Link #68
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I put my answer inside the spoiler tag
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Some further clarifications...
/me dons We Suck hat

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If there's anything you're still not sure about, you may ask either myself or teh_suck (aka Torgen, co-founder and lead translator of We Suck; don't be fooled by the "Misc." credit on our release, he did lots of translation checking on my behalf. LOTS! Also, he's a way better editor than I can ever hope to be...bah, I really should've taken that extra English writing class offered in high school in my final year...)
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Old 2006-05-13, 12:01   Link #69
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Excellent. Very helpful detail. Here are some follow-ups...

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Old 2006-05-13, 15:25   Link #70
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Spoiler for the Kihi rank:
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Old 2006-05-13, 15:43   Link #71
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Spoiler for the Kihi rank:
Spoiler for Imperial Concubine Ranking System:
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Old 2006-05-13, 15:58   Link #72
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Old 2006-05-13, 16:05   Link #73
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Old 2006-05-13, 16:40   Link #74
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Excellent. Very helpful detail. Here are some follow-ups...

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Spoiler for Potential translation errata for We Suck encode:
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Old 2006-05-13, 17:54   Link #75
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Thanks, arc. And good luck on these often subtle political translations.
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Old 2006-05-14, 14:20   Link #76
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I just watched the 1st episode of this show. It's good! I wonder how such a solid show managed to slip under the radar.

Then again, maybe my personal enjoyment of ancient Chinese history and Chinese traditions and culture caused me to like the show more than I usually would.

Did anyone check out the seiyuu cast for this show? It's really impressive!
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Old 2006-05-15, 03:14   Link #77
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Great series. Shuurei, oh, Shuurei, Episode 2 just sealed it; you have no idea how much you totally owned Fushigi Yuugi's Miaka. Thank you for having a brain, let alone, become one of the most delightful heroines out there.

I've shut off my BL radar with this show, but

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Old 2006-05-15, 05:35   Link #78
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Actually such act is considered as an etiquette, considering the time this anime is set in. BL talks during those periods are known to be much more subtle than what's been displayed so far.
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Old 2006-05-15, 06:42   Link #79
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I'm totally in love with this show. Normally I'm not the type to like shows that are more.. uhh... how to say... mellow and calm. But this is just great. The character designs are beautiful (I want Shuurei's clothing!! Not that you can wear stuff like that in this time but still...), and I like the characters (Shuurei in particular... I may get a Shuurei icon soon...).
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Old 2006-05-16, 11:10   Link #80
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characters page updated

I've updated the Saiunkoku characters' faces and names page to cover characters introduced up to episode 6. The descriptions of the characters contain no spoilers.

Episode 6 was wonderful again, giving us a new turn. The summaries of the novels (link on above page) are a great resource for understanding what's going on.
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